The breakdown of Apple's (AAPL) iOS Maps partnership with Google (GOOG) centered around...

The breakdown of Apple's (AAPL) iOS Maps partnership with Google (GOOG) centered around turn-by-turn navigation, sources (possibly within Apple) tell AllThingsD's John Paczkowski. Apple pushed Google to provide data that would enable turn-by-turn, but Google was unwilling, at least without in-app branding and/or support for other Google features. One source suggests Apple execs have been taken aback by the Maps uproar. "I think they felt they were farther along than they actually are." (more)

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  • Machiavelli999
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    You reap what you sow. I think in solidarity with Samsung and other Android developers, Google should not enter into any partnership with Apple and instead launch a frivolous patent lawsuit claiming Apple stole their idea of Maps. And I don't mean the app Maps, I mean the concept of maps on a phone. That seems more innovative and relevant than rounded corner design patent.
    26 Sep 2012, 05:03 PM Reply Like
  • Daveqwerty
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    Your comment says more about you than Apple. You obviously did not follow the court case and just repeated a stupid "sour grapes" comment by Samsung's lawyer after they lost big-time. Please let's try to keep SA on a more factual level.
    26 Sep 2012, 05:53 PM Reply Like
  • Machiavelli999
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    Umm...when we are patenting form factor designs and how icons and buttons appear, there is something wrong with us.



    Next thing you know we'll be patenting different types of roses...wait what? we already are?!?! Sigh...

    26 Sep 2012, 06:30 PM Reply Like
  • Johnnymack
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    "Apple stole their idea of Maps. And I don't mean the app Maps, I mean the concept of maps on a phone."


    I wish they would too! I hope they spend a lot of money, and I hope Apple does too, so when Sammy loses, and has to pay Apple's legal bills, we'll all get a good laugh.


    All Apple has to do is show the Newton, working with GPS and map applications from 1995, back when Samsung was sucking cotton candy.


    LOL! Do you realize the history Apple has?
    watch this 25 year old concept video and get back to us:


    Yeah, that lawsuit you're sweaty about is starting to look real frivolous right about now, huh?
    27 Sep 2012, 08:58 AM Reply Like
  • Johnnymack
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    We'll be shooting internal reports around Samsung actively looking to COPY these details you deem so unimportant, complete with side by side photos!


    Why was Samsung wasting time copying details like this, as frivolous as roses, when they should be bust pushing the envelope in high tech design?
    27 Sep 2012, 09:01 AM Reply Like
  • Clayton Rulli
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    People had to find SOMETHING wrong with the new Iphone didnt they? Apparently the glass is half empty!
    26 Sep 2012, 05:25 PM Reply Like
  • Herr Hansa
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    When a company is priced to perfection, anything less can generate criticism. However, take a look at the run-up in share prices prior to the iPhone 5 announcement. Shares are now back to the level they were just before fever took hold. If AAPL shares stay at this level, then no worries.
    26 Sep 2012, 05:54 PM Reply Like
  • SoldHigh
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    Removing Google Maps is major loss for iPhone users. At least allow a Google Maps app!


    I'll keep my 4S, but won't be updating to the new OS until the maps issue is resolved. AAPL dropped the ball on this imo.
    26 Sep 2012, 07:29 PM Reply Like
  • kmi
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    "had to find SOMETHING wrong with the new Iphone"


    Actually it isnt all the hard to find stuff wrong. It's camera doesn't compare with the competition, it has lost the display crown. It scuffs easily, and it's literally the last major phone OS to provide turn-by-turn navigation. And a proprietary connector in an era when no other company does that.


    On the other hand, it comes with dual band wifi, a custom designed highly innovative processor for redeeming value, and the best looks in the industry, but eh.
    26 Sep 2012, 07:54 PM Reply Like
  • JohnnyHands
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    I believe you can use Google Maps in Safari, though I don't know if all the app features are there (don't own a iPhone.)
    26 Sep 2012, 10:19 PM Reply Like
  • dividend_growth
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    A P/E of 15 and a growth of 20+% is priced for major disasters.
    26 Sep 2012, 11:02 PM Reply Like
  • Johnnymack
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    why not download the web app to your desktop, where you can enjoy the lack of turn by turn directions to your heart's content?
    27 Sep 2012, 09:02 AM Reply Like
  • apple_investor
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    Using the new maps function for close to a week on my iPhone 4S, I don't know what people are complaining about. Here in northern NJ it has been perfect. I think whatever issues people might find in their areas, they will be fixed fairly quickly, after all, it's all in the cloud, they don't have to mail out new DVD's like on my BMW.
    26 Sep 2012, 05:31 PM Reply Like
  • Mortonk
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    I think Google were a step behind the satnav companies who came up with the ideas and have patented it already, as always Google stole someone else's idea.....!
    26 Sep 2012, 05:33 PM Reply Like
  • andyk80
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    Tim Cook has damaged the Apple brand of excellence. It is foolish to deny that AAPL made a major strategic error.
    26 Sep 2012, 05:59 PM Reply Like
  • emperor2
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    How quickly people forget. Apple, and Steve Jobs, has had many major strategic errors. Newton, antennagate, etc. While Steve Jobs did many things right, he also had his failures. You can still access other map programs, including Googles, on your iPhone. The Applehate boys need something to complain about and this appears the best thing they have had in a long time.
    28 Sep 2012, 10:26 AM Reply Like
  • andyk80
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    I don't "hate" Apple. Trading AAPL options and a handful of other stocks pay me well. The only thing that matters to me is that I am on the right side of the trade. I have no loyalty to AAPL or GOOG. All I know is Apple makes great hardware and Google provides the best consumer cloud services. If Apple drops all Google from iOS then iOS is a second rate platform. The device is only as good as the services it provides. Accessing a website through a browser and tight integration with the device is not the same thing.
    28 Sep 2012, 08:34 PM Reply Like
  • Seeker4
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    There are some worries, present or future, priced into Apple stock for the past two days.
    26 Sep 2012, 05:59 PM Reply Like
  • bailinnumberguy
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    Either that or it's profit taking/sell on the news.
    26 Sep 2012, 09:52 PM Reply Like
  • livshk
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    so you are saying when the stock responds next week, it will be because the worries are suddenly gone ? Stocks rallies, pullbacks, consolidates and continue on the trend. and there are post event run-ups and there are post-event selloffs.


    Short term stock movements generally has nothing to do with fundamentals.
    27 Sep 2012, 08:02 AM Reply Like
  • rrosey2
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    I had the good fortune to buy Apple stock yesterday and today at bargain prices. When it goes to $800, I won't sell.
    26 Sep 2012, 06:02 PM Reply Like
  • Zelotai
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    If you can Heathrow Airport in London and Gothenburg the second largest city in Sweden, there is something wrong.
    26 Sep 2012, 06:17 PM Reply Like
  • Johnnymack
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    I've been doing a lot of driving this past week, and Apple maps has been perfect.
    I saw the Washington monument was a block from the actual monument in an article.
    Really, if I'm anywhere near a few blocks from the Washington Monument, and need a GPS to find it, just shoot me.
    26 Sep 2012, 06:33 PM Reply Like
  • galnchg
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    I love the new Apple MAPS. I can get it in larger writing, and the turn by turn instructions are great. I don't know why everyone is making such a big deal about it.
    26 Sep 2012, 07:45 PM Reply Like
  • Barn Al
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    26 Sep 2012, 08:46 PM Reply Like
  • rubicon59
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    Remember all the other strategic errors Apple made?


    The first mis-step was to enter a commodity MP3 player market. Then it got worse. They got into, can you believe, retail. Subsequently, entering the phone market was complete insanity.


    If that wasn't bad enough, Apple then blundered into Flash-gate (can you believe the uproar when they wilfully refused, just refused, to support an established web-standard on the iPad, which btw, was itself was a dumb idea destined to failure).


    Then, Antennagate, and now Mapgate.


    So Tim Cook just continues to lead Apple dow the disaster path that Steve Jobs put them on.


    All this while the stock is priced at the dot-com-euphoric 14x trailing earnings.


    Appleis doomed.
    26 Sep 2012, 11:27 PM Reply Like
  • kmi
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    rubicon, how many variations of the iPhone did Jobs sell and how many variations are out of the iPhone5?


    (answer: 1 and 3)


    And that's just one way Apple has altered course from the Jobs vision.


    If you think Cook and Jobs think alike.... well let's just say I disagree.
    27 Sep 2012, 09:24 AM Reply Like
  • cptnron4
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    Please sell, sell, that price down so those of us who think the maps app is just fine can buy, buy, buy...before everyone else figures it out. Thanks in advance
    27 Sep 2012, 12:01 AM Reply Like
  • Flander
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    I'm very happy with Apple maps and the turn by turn navigation, which I have been using in both Southern and Northern California since I uploaded it. I think a lot of commentators have not actually tried using it. I bet it makes mistakes sometimes. So has Google's system, as has any other. But please, let the PR wars continue!
    27 Sep 2012, 01:48 PM Reply Like
  • Atkins
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    Ironically, yesterday I used Google Maps Navigation in a frustrating attempt to find my way after I drove onto the wrong highway. It was the antithesis of a good user experience.


    In an inexplicable effort to further confuse me, Google Maps Navigation sent me on two different dirt roads that paralleled a small river, and I finally realized that I was driving in dirt-road-circles.


    Fearing that I might end up in a swamp at the end of a dirt road, I returned to my previously selected "wrong highway" and gave Google Maps another shot. The signs on the highway told me that I was driving North on Highway 17, but Google was telling me that I was driving South. I decided to trust the highway signs, of course. Eventually, I pulled a paper map out of my trunk, turned off my Android, and eventually found my way thanks to the paper map.


    Thanks, Google, for a great product. I appreciated the fact that your advanced navigation tools completely confused my driving direction. Moral of the story: Apple's maps may be weak, but the alleged gold-standard of Google is fool's gold.
    27 Sep 2012, 11:38 PM Reply Like
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