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Nokia (NOK +2.1%) announces its Lumia 920 and 820 Windows Phones will be available in Europe in...

Nokia (NOK +2.1%) announces its Lumia 920 and 820 Windows Phones will be available in Europe in November - all signs point to a U.S. launch happening around the same time. In spite of Nokia's need to win back smartphone share, the 920 will cost more than Samsung's flagship Galaxy S III. The 920 will carry an unsubsidized price of €599 ($770) in Italy, above the S III's €530 ($681). (dividend plans)
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  • Papa of Four
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    Better phone higher price? not too surprising.
    Thinking the i5 costs more than the SIII too.
    Point is you have a new techosphere with win8 that is not all the bad Andriod apps
    27 Sep 2012, 09:46 AM Reply Like
  • ericmeister
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    "920 will cost more than Samsung's flagship Galaxy S III"

     

    Well of course it will, what else would you expect from the best phone on the market? I would buy Lumia 920 even if it was $1000. The U.S. got Lumia 900 practically for free, it's about time to put prices higher and pay for quality.
    27 Sep 2012, 09:50 AM Reply Like
  • techy46
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    No kidding. I couldn't believe I got my Lumia 900 and ended up being paid $50 to take it; $100 minus $100 rebate and $50 for answering customer survey. I'll take the free W7.8 upgrade and go get a W8 tablet for Xmas. Maybe a Nokia 950 next spring to celebrate Nokia's turnaround and Microsoft breaking $34.
    27 Sep 2012, 11:29 AM Reply Like
  • wigit5
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    Easy guys, your missing the point... It doesn't matter if the phone is "better"... Nokia needs to work on actually getting people to look at their phones, in today's price conscious market consumers are going to work their way up from the bottom of the price barrel, unless their is an already established relationship (see: Apple Fanatics).

     

    The questions isn't is the Lumia 920 better than the Galaxy III, the question is does the Galaxy III meet the majorities needs while having an affordable price. This is how Android has dominated the market, a variety of phones at a variety of prices and abilities.

     

    That being said I'm still positive on Nokia, they are so far in the dumps that even a decent showing of sales on the new line of mobiles should boost the stock price close to $4 and give it support there as well.
    27 Sep 2012, 10:19 AM Reply Like
  • techy46
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    True but don't you think Nokia is also looking at startup production volumes and riding Microsoft's Windows 8 release momentum. There is some pent up demand to be the first to have the Lumia 920 and that commands a higher price. You really don't stand out in a crowded room full of iPhone 5s when you got one too. Also, don't forget the Lumia 820 with it's interchangeable cases. If the Lumia 920 prices at $299 with subsidy then the Lumia 820 could be $99.
    27 Sep 2012, 11:46 AM Reply Like
  • wigit5
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    Remember the disaster that was Apple when they reduced the price 3 months after releasing the iPhone...

     

    If Nok is trying to capture the pent up demand at high prices then they better keep the prices high or risk a PR Nightmare (which they seem particularly good at creating even without money involved).

     

    I'm not saying the price is wrong, I just hope they have accounted for the fact that as the underdog people don't trust them, forget feature phones for a minute forget their long history of success. The only thing that matters is this moment, and they risk losing greatness over 100-200 a handset.
    27 Sep 2012, 11:50 AM Reply Like
  • david5198
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    What is the price for Iphone 5 in Italy? anyone know.
    27 Sep 2012, 10:25 AM Reply Like
  • ericmeister
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    @david5198

     

    No, but in Finland the 64GB version is 899e. I couldn't stop laughing.
    28 Sep 2012, 12:03 PM Reply Like
  • yblarrr
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    You generally pay for what you get. Nokia is the place for quality and
    reliability,know the world over. The US market is just one of many.
    Plus down the road the price will come down as volume increases.
    27 Sep 2012, 11:01 AM Reply Like
  • Dantes_Will
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    " the 920 will cost more than Samsung's flagship Galaxy S III"

     

    Google teardown of Samsung Galaxy S3. It's a samsung build - making heavy use of flimsy plastic components. Not much different than an HTC or Hwawei build.

     

    There's a reason behind Nokias superior build quality that leads to their "lasts forever" reputation.
    27 Sep 2012, 11:18 AM Reply Like
  • alxfoo
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    Germany prices:
    iPhone 5 – 16 GB: €679
    iPhone 5 – 23 GB: €789
    Lumia 920: €649

     

    Italian prices:
    iPhone 4S (16GB): 629€
    iPhone 5 (16GB): 729€
    iPhone 5 (32GB): 839€
    Lumia 920 (32GB): 599€
    (OT) Galaxy S3 (16GB): 699€, 479€ in aftermarket
    27 Sep 2012, 11:27 AM Reply Like
  • sunnydd
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    Thank you. This is useful.
    28 Sep 2012, 12:16 AM Reply Like
  • bradcrawford
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    Could 820 be the price leader? Maybe the strategy is to bracket the iP5.
    27 Sep 2012, 11:45 AM Reply Like
  • Papa of Four
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    Funny how seeking Alpha missed all these announcements. TODAY!!!!!!!!

     

    07:38 AM NOK Nokia Says Latest Smartphones Will Go On Sale in November Dow Jones
    07:30 AM NOK Hyundai infotainment strategy includes NAVTEQ® Map data PR Newswire
    07:06 AM NOK Nokia Location & Commerce provides NAVTEQ® Maps and content to German OEM for new generation navigation system PR Newswire
    07:00 AM NOK Garmin selects Nokia's Transit and Pedestrian Content to power Urban Guidance PR Newswire
    07:00 AM NOK Mercedes A-Class navigation to feature NAVTEQ® Map data PR Newswire
    07:00 AM NOK Pioneer chooses NAVTEQ® Maps to power aftermarket systems PR Newswire
    07:00 AM NOK Volkswagen Group powers new infotainment systems with NAVTEQ® Map data PR Newswire
    27 Sep 2012, 11:47 AM Reply Like
  • Origa
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    Remember the EU prices with VAT, it is required by law that all taxes are included before you announce them. You have to recalculate the prices excluded the VAT, Germany is 19%.

     

    Also Endgaget website http://www.engadget.com had a one on one Interview with Elop.
    http://engt.co/OUJChQ

     

    A real Camera test with Lumia 920 vs iPhone 5.
    http://engt.co/PWHu63

     

    They were generally very impressed with the performance. Things are looking better for Nokia.
    27 Sep 2012, 11:49 AM Reply Like
  • DeepValueLover
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    Be honest.

     

    Do you REALLY think that Nokia will sell more 920s than Samsung sells Galaxy S IIIs?

     

    I look forward to revisiting the answers in June 2013.
    27 Sep 2012, 03:31 PM Reply Like
  • wigit5
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    No, I don't think so; but it could be the start of something beautiful for Nokia, if they can gain market share even modestly (1-3%) a year it would be huge in my view.
    27 Sep 2012, 03:51 PM Reply Like
  • Leont68
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    To answer that question DVL, in no way will lumia 920 outsell Samsung SIII or iphone 5.

     

    No numbers are out yet. So why try to guess. Lets wait for Quarter 4 results to come in and then we can see how well or how bad it sold. By quarter 1 2013 we will have a better overall picture of the health of Nokia as a corporation
    27 Sep 2012, 07:54 PM Reply Like
  • Chris Lau
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    The longer Nokia can retain a high price on the lumia, the better the margins. If sales are weak, they can lower prices. Nokia's story is multi-quarter, not just one or two quarters.
    27 Sep 2012, 10:04 PM Reply Like
  • ericmeister
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    @DeepValueLover:

     

    At least the same trend seem to continue: Where-ever there has been a Lumia launch, ALL Android phones have been left behind (remember Lumia 900 on AT&T, Lumia 800C on China Telecom, Lumia-line in MTS Russia?).

     

    This time is different: even iPhone 5 is behind Lumia 920

     

    http://bit.ly/QqPsm7
    http://bit.ly/WB6SCh
    http://bit.ly/QYj5wD
    17 Oct 2012, 06:18 PM Reply Like
  • luigi29
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    This is the new plans for IPhone5.
    http://bit.ly/TIfjgn

     

    http://bit.ly/VPQXic

     

    http://bit.ly/TIfjwW

     

    For now, no plans are available for Lumia 920, for 900 you can subcrive a plane for free phone.
    Read this (in italian)

     

    http://bit.ly/VPQYmj
    27 Sep 2012, 03:53 PM Reply Like
  • whiteshirtonly
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    Finally some concrete announcements. It's going to be epic, but it seems that some markets are already expecting it.

     

    I now hope that North America will have a decent look at the amazing Lumia device.
    27 Sep 2012, 06:01 PM Reply Like
  • westkite
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    Still in denial. Oh, lets see, in Russia, no grey phone, the second most popular color, in US the reease date is in November, costs higher than most other phones, and finally, WP8. Either Nokia is out of its mind or trying to go belly up so it can be sold to MS at a cheap price. Nokia is doing everything it is not supposed to do. Sell a product no one wants to buy at an exorbitant price running on a platform every pc users have been cursing for 20 years. Good luck with that. Denial, denial, and more denial.
    28 Sep 2012, 03:52 AM Reply Like
  • mr wonder
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    Westkite, you are just shorting the stock or you are (for some reason) hating Nokia. If you were not, you would not be screaming "bloody hell" at every article appearing about Nokia. Btw your arguments are lousy. WP is refreshingly new, especially when compared to the traditional old fashioned Android and iOS which still use the traditional icon UI, which was invented by Microsoft in the late 80's.

     

    Go give your opinion on stock you believe in and stop writing your useless frustrations about Nokia. It is annoying.
    28 Sep 2012, 07:58 AM Reply Like
  • Abu Bakr Hussain
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    - Westkite - are you aware of Nokia US pricing being higher than iphone 5? if you are - please do share. Always looking for new info.
    Also if you could provide evidence that grey is the second most popular colour for Nokia phones in Russia (given the choice of a colour palette), please provide.
    28 Sep 2012, 07:59 AM Reply Like
  • westkite
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    Did I say anything untrue? Instead of ignoring the data, why don't you try to be more objective and refute the facts, if you can without making personal attacks?
    28 Sep 2012, 09:49 AM Reply Like
  • Abu Bakr Hussain
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    Westkite- US Nokia pricing has not yet been announced. Regarding your assertion that grey is a very popular colour in Russia and it will cost Nokia sales if it does not provide it at launch.... That needs validating.
    28 Sep 2012, 10:14 AM Reply Like
  • Abu Bakr Hussain
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    All -
    Here's a decent article showing pricing of Nokia Lumia
    http://bit.ly/QjbvM3
    Seems to me to be competitively priced.
    28 Sep 2012, 08:03 AM Reply Like
  • JM1964
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    I like NOK and RIMM.
    28 Sep 2012, 08:31 AM Reply Like
  • wigit5
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    Wish they would release the dang 920 already... is there a confirmed release date for the US yet?
    28 Sep 2012, 12:15 PM Reply Like
  • Papa of Four
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    Would you rather wait and do it right, or have another i5 fiasco????
    28 Sep 2012, 12:29 PM Reply Like
  • wigit5
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    i know... i'm just tired of my current phone really tired... no battery life slow internet/app use (it takes almost a minute to load words with friends on wifi or 3g connection).
    28 Sep 2012, 12:33 PM Reply Like
  • mitrado
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    It's Europe, baby, where the governments keep a mere 25% tax over every service and good sold.
    28 Sep 2012, 02:12 PM Reply Like
  • wigit5
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    Taxing purchases > Income in my opinion...
    28 Sep 2012, 02:26 PM Reply Like
  • a_rob
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    Retarded article...of course a high quality device can command a high price - and it's still cheaper than the iPhone 5, which is the important consideration...better quality device with more technological innovations than the iPhone 5 without a complete rip-off price tag!
    5 Oct 2012, 11:50 AM Reply Like
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