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An astonishing fact about the stock market since October 2010: Out of 156 weeks, the market has...

An astonishing fact about the stock market since October 2010: Out of 156 weeks, the market has suffered only seven negative Y/Y readings. Even during the seven Y/Y-down weeks, the largest negative reading was just -1.6%. "Just goes to show you how resilient and strong the market really is," Jerry Khachoyan exults.
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  • apberusdisvet
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    "just goes to show you how resilient and strong the market really is"

     

    Well actually no. What it really shows is how well the FED and the PPT are able to artificially pump and manipulate the market. Ever notice how a down day based on bad economic data suddenly becomes positive in the last hour of trading?
    29 Sep 2012, 08:37 AM Reply Like
  • Sam Liu
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    "how resilient and strong the market really is"

     

    delusional! ...
    29 Sep 2012, 08:56 AM Reply Like
  • Paulo Santos
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    Delusional but true. Very few weeks out there that the Fed isn't printing and buying in one way or another.
    29 Sep 2012, 08:58 AM Reply Like
  • Sam Liu
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    the reason I said delusional is because the S&P500 rises hitting new heights when the EU is in straits, drought, Asia is unraveling: HK, Cn, Sg, and of course, Jp ...

     

    what SOLID fundamentals!
    29 Sep 2012, 09:29 AM Reply Like
  • Edaugh
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    Where are you going to put your money? Treasuries? Under the mattress? Best house analogy applies here again.
    29 Sep 2012, 10:12 AM Reply Like
  • Sam Liu
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    i'm waiting for the winter 08-09 circumstances
    1 Oct 2012, 10:47 AM Reply Like
  • DOGS THAT BARK
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    We have had basically a perfect storm for corps..
    They have cut inventories and work force to the bone..while refinancing debt at record low interest rates.

     

    How many earning reports have we seen with increased profits but lower production.

     

    Remember back in days of old when interest rate cut of quarter point would pump the market...Feds no longer have any "real" cuts in their arsenal..and only powder left exists as "promises" not to raise in the future..That is scarey!
    29 Sep 2012, 09:17 AM Reply Like
  • Edaugh
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    Regardless of whether or not the market is "manipulated" (harder to do this than it seems) my gains over this time period are not imaginary. I don't really understand those investors that scream about market manipulation..unless of course they keep trying to short the market.
    29 Sep 2012, 09:18 AM Reply Like
  • Paulo Santos
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    Edaugh, if the fundamentals for something say "south" and manipulation says "north", then it becomes a bet not on fundamentals, but on whether the thing will get manipulated or not.

     

    It's quite hard.
    29 Sep 2012, 09:26 AM Reply Like
  • Neil459
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    Edaugh, Mine gains are real also. But just because I can adapt and work in a bad economy does not mean I like it, that I have to be quiet about it, or that I want it continue.
    29 Sep 2012, 09:27 AM Reply Like
  • anonymous#12
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    I only see people whining here....

     

    Let me guess..... you all missed huge returns like AAPL going from $100 per share to $670 in just three years.....

     

    While you scream, rant and babble, we keep making huge sums of money. Thank you again doomers.
    29 Sep 2012, 09:27 AM Reply Like
  • anonymous#12
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    By the way, my comment isn't directed at Paulo, since I know he is a good guy.

     

    My comment is directed to the trolls.
    29 Sep 2012, 09:36 AM Reply Like
  • mickmars
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    While Anonymous is crude, he does have a point. With an activist Fed (not a strong economy) you cannot be completely out of, or short in, equity markets.

     

    Buy the dips, especially in precious metals and their miners, and Ben Bernanke and his Posse will reward you in the long-term.
    2 Oct 2012, 04:50 PM Reply Like
  • Edaugh
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    Neil 459,

     

    Personally, I would rather make real gains in a "bad economy" than make less in a "good economy". My point is that it doesn't really matter if you know how to play it. Too many investors allow their political leanings to influence their investing decisions.
    As for FED manipulation, it's not much different than what dark pools and HFT algos have been doing for the last 7+ years.
    29 Sep 2012, 10:11 AM Reply Like
  • Neil459
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    "Too many investors allow their political leanings to influence their investing decisions. "

     

    No, too many investors don't care about politics if they can make money. Then we end up with what we have now; apathy.

     

    Sure I can continue to live by eating in a restaurant that smells, has rats, is dirty, is noisy, has bad service, but has edible food. But if I could change it, I would. To change the investment environment we need to change attitudes, including any that say, "It's OK, I am making or can figure how to make money." This is a major part of the problem with Wall Street. They don't care about America. They don't care about the future as long as they are making money.

     

    Otherwise, we as a country, would never tolerate the elected officials that we have today (or in the recent past).
    29 Sep 2012, 12:05 PM Reply Like
  • Mad_Max_A_Million
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    Neil, I have no argument with what you say. The only tools we have to fight the dead-beats and socialists of this country is our vote and political donations, plus some lesser actions.

     

    After that, I have no problem with taking advantage of the ignorant Americans that over-leverage while zoning out on the Kardasians.
    I say "Good luck to those suckers". If they snooze, they lose.
    Atlas Shruggs (the movie) comes out Oct. 12. Good lesson for the feeble and slow of mind..
    29 Sep 2012, 01:53 PM Reply Like
  • Hendershott
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    Atlas Shrugged....all 1,088 pages of sophomoric drivel....with a 64 page speech by M. Galt?....That Atlas shrugged?....might do as well as the Sarah Palin story. Might as well read L. Ron Hubbard.
    30 Sep 2012, 07:31 PM Reply Like
  • anonymous#12
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    Atlas shrugged...Hahahahahaa...

     

    Did Jesus rode dinosaurs too? Hahahahaha.....
    1 Oct 2012, 09:31 AM Reply Like
  • mike mohr
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    S&P would have been @ 400 without Fed free money.
    29 Sep 2012, 04:09 PM Reply Like
  • Ted Bear
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    It really is quite simple:

     

    The economy is in poor shape.
    Corporate activity is weak, so they are shrinking balance sheets and workforce to make things look 'okay'.
    Fed is throwing the party of ....well...how do you say this: history/world's lifetime/forever?
    On the margin it actually takes very little money to make the market go higher.
    So stock prices can easily be pushed higher with a massive liquidity event.

     

    This won't go on forever. Of that you can be certain. If you have enjoyed the gains from this massive bubble, lucky for you. Most of America has, either through direct participation, or through retirement programs.

     

    There is only one thing of which you can be certain: this WILL end. And when it does. Well, there won't be many who will be boasting that they rode Apple from 700 down to 10.......
    29 Sep 2012, 05:07 PM Reply Like
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