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General Motors (GM) and Ford (F) will announce next month that they will work together to study...

General Motors (GM) and Ford (F) will announce next month that they will work together to study and develop new automatic transmissions designed to improve fuel economy. By joining forces, the automakers can split the investment costs for the development of gearboxes with 8, 9, and 10 speeds that could be the future of transmissions.
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  • Tony Petroski
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    This is delightful. The government can come down like a load of bricks on any companies they think are colluding against the public interest, but now government-run companies can collude with any business (and they'll have to as they lose their competitiveness) if their collusion is in the public interest.

     

    Orwell, meet the Age of Obama.
    2 Oct 2012, 08:02 AM Reply Like
  • Phill Stone
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    Since when was Ford government-run? (...I assume you didn't mean GM because that's crazy talk: Washington hasn't sold their shares because they'd take a huge loss) In fact, how exactly did you come up with this being about Obama in the first place? This whole "Everything I perceive as negative on the internet is Obama's fault" mentality is getting really old.
    2 Oct 2012, 08:06 AM Reply Like
  • timetosave
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    Well said Phill. Look out Tony, big brother is watching you!
    2 Oct 2012, 08:33 AM Reply Like
  • Tony Petroski
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    Sorry Phill.

     

    (Chant of the day) (leftists love chants)

     

    Here's the play,
    We must say,
    Hope and Change is on the Way,

     

    Four more years, four more years, four more years (repeat until election day)
    2 Oct 2012, 09:08 AM Reply Like
  • tluther43
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    Well I think it is about time that the U.S. auto makers ban together to spread the cost of innovation in areas that make sense technically, economically and financially. Each company can individually focus more resources on differentiating their brand in a way their customers can see, touch and feel rather than duplicating their efforts in areas that most consumers don't think about when making a purchase. This is one way, of many I hope in the future, that the U.S. auto industry can use to help compete with the Asian, and European brands.
    3 Oct 2012, 01:07 PM Reply Like
  • Twest
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    Finally! It is always astonishing to me that when we are cruising along at the maximum legal speed that the tachometer ought to read 500 instead of 2000. And next maybe there will be a new way to have the car idle at 100 instead of 500. Good luck GM and Ford.
    2 Oct 2012, 08:04 AM Reply Like
  • tluther43
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    Ford already has a car that idles less than 100... it's called a Hybrid with auto start/stop. I think they are actually investigating using the technology (start/stop) in gasoline powered vehicles for two reasons: first, for lower emissions; second, for aiding overall fuel economy.
    3 Oct 2012, 11:18 AM Reply Like
  • talz13
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    When I first heard this yesterday, I thought why are they spending money developing more gears when they could work on existing CVT transmissions? After reading a bit, it sounds like CVT transmissions are not as well suited to towing and other heavy-duty uses. These 9- and 10-speed transmissions are probably going to be used in the F-series trucks, etc. where a CVT would not match well with the intended use.
    2 Oct 2012, 08:17 AM Reply Like
  • chunger
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    Hmmmm, how do I go long auto mechanics? 9 / 10 speed transmissions are sure to be a boon to auto mechanics in a few years as most owners refuse to do any maintenance to their vehicles. And a few years without maintenance = a big boon to the auto repair shops!
    2 Oct 2012, 10:25 AM Reply Like
  • Tdot
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    Current affordable CVTs for automobiles have been durability-limited to around 200 horsepower, which is why they work pretty well with compact hybrid powerplants, and smaller displacement gas engines. Of course there are exceptions for premium priced vehicles.

     

    Also, folks didn't care for the "feel" of the CVT with larger displacement and conventional engines ... it seemed like the tranny was always slipping under acceleration and thus broken or wearing out.

     

    Folks in hybrids, with the engine and electric motor tag-teaming for optimum power and efficiency, don't seem to mind the CVT.
    2 Oct 2012, 11:34 AM Reply Like
  • Tdot
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    AAMCO? Are they publicly traded?
    2 Oct 2012, 11:39 AM Reply Like
  • youngman442002
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    They already have them in the big Trucks...semiĀ“s......not automatics though...but many gears...
    2 Oct 2012, 08:28 AM Reply Like
  • elroy
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    It's sad that people like Tony can put an anti-government spin on anything.
    2 Oct 2012, 08:37 AM Reply Like
  • Skier99
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    Actually, innovations like this are probably an indirect result of government fuel mileage policies which, when applied uniformly across the industry, help drive innovation.

     

    I remember when we had antique analog engine systems with horrid mileage and engine wearout. Government imposed standards drove the industry, reluctantly, to innovate.
    2 Oct 2012, 08:59 AM Reply Like
  • MARINE101
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    It's about time that US automakers work together. Automobile costs hopefully will decline, and folks will be able to afford a new car. Resource sharing is the way to go!
    2 Oct 2012, 09:41 AM Reply Like
  • Tdot
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    Actually, Ford and GM have been working together on transmissions for some 10 years, since 2002 with the development of the ubiquitous six-speed automatic transmissions. This new development effort is just an extension of that long term agreement.

     

    http://bit.ly/U6yUam
    2 Oct 2012, 10:05 AM Reply Like
  • EdwinJ44
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    Phill Stone said...
    "Everything I perceive as negative on the internet is Obama's fault" mentality is getting really old.
    I agree! Let's all vote for Romney and remove Obama from our vocabulary!
    2 Oct 2012, 11:10 AM Reply Like
  • ccortazzo
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    I don't knwo why the stock is getting killed today. The reason Ford didn't have a great month is because Fusion was down 37%, they ran out of 2012's and the 2013's are just starting to get on the lot... Add an extra 6k cars next month to the totals...
    2 Oct 2012, 01:37 PM Reply Like
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