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Apple (AAPL +2%) roundup: 1) Ahead of tomorrow's iPad Mini event, 9to5 Mac reports the cheapest...

Apple (AAPL +2%) roundup: 1) Ahead of tomorrow's iPad Mini event, 9to5 Mac reports the cheapest model will likely go for $329, Higher-capacity and 3G/4G-capable models are said to range from $429-$659. 2) In addition to the Mini, Apple will reportedly unveil a slight update for the regular iPad. 3) A Japanese court rules Apple didn't infringe two Samsung patents. It had already cleared Apple of infringing two other Samsung patents, and also cleared Samsung of infringing an Apple patent.
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  • tiger8896
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    $329 makes more sense to me viz a viz the 16GB iPod touch pricing. I also expect the base model to be 16GB and not 8GB. 8GB would be inadequate for a device that you can't expand and would be counter to Apples quality standards.
    22 Oct 2012, 10:41 AM Reply Like
  • Gloube
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    it's "vis-à-vis", not "viz a viz"
    22 Oct 2012, 11:34 AM Reply Like
  • chopchop0
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    $329 will likely do nothing for AAPL if they are trying to produce a solid contender in the small-tablet market. Samsung, Amazon and Google will continue to own this space IMO.
    22 Oct 2012, 11:03 AM Reply Like
  • sduris
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    I am inclined to agree with chopchop0. Bad move. Why not just purchase an iPad then? As I stated last week, AAPL is very methodical in their strategy and get some of this market, pricing needs to be more attractive. If they don't start at that 200-250 sweet spot, I think something is up. But, we can armchair-QB all we want. AAPL has a plan and I'm intrigued. L-O-N-G AAPL.
    22 Oct 2012, 11:40 AM Reply Like
  • rocback
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    Chopchop, do you do anything other than trash Apple. this is at least the 19th comment you have on it. Did you see this announcement today, by the way:

     

    Japanese court finds Apple did not infringe on two Samsung patents
    By Sam Oliver

     

    A Japanese court has rejected two patent infringement claims lodged by Samsung against Apple, marking yet another country where Apple has found courtroom success against its rival.

     

    Intellectual property expert Florian Mueller said with Apple's latest victories in Japan, it's just another example of how "Apple is on the winning track" worldwide against Samsung. He noted that outside of Korea, the only case that Samsung has won on the offensive came in the Netherlands, and even that wasn't a major victory.

     

    "Samsung's problem is not that there were two non-wins in Japan," Mueller wrote on Monday. "Samsung's problem is that Apple has won a variety of rulings (even if none of them had or has the potential to force Samsung out of a major market) while Samsung hasn't won anything meaningful outside of Korea, and nothing anywhere in the world over a non-standard-essential patent."
    22 Oct 2012, 12:10 PM Reply Like
  • chopchop0
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    Yep, you have nothing to offer to this discussion rocback.

     

    How about you sticky this thread and in 6 months we can see who's right?

     

    Mmmmkay?
    22 Oct 2012, 12:54 PM Reply Like
  • $vix
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    I don't think apple has to compete on price. There are many people who are interested in a smaller size tablet and believe they will pay a premium to have a superior product. The Kindle, Nexus, the Galaxy, etc. are not in the same league as apple's products. Have you ever used the new kindle HD- I spent a week with it and it is nowhere on the level of an ipad. It is a royal hunk of junk. While far better than the Kindle, the Nexus is still nowhere near the level of apple in terms of build quality, user experience, fluidity, smoothness and stability.
    I am interested in buying a smaller tablet for a specific use and after trying the Nexus, the Kindle and the Galaxy, the only product I would buy is the smaller ipad regardless of price.
    The only tablet that has the possibility to compete with the full size iPad could be the Surface. It has the quality, beauty, portability of the ipad mated to the power and ports of a computer. The Surface Pro will be able to run windows programs which will be a boon to enterprise. I am certainly willing to ditch the ipad in lieu of a tablet that can replace it as well as my laptop.
    22 Oct 2012, 12:55 PM Reply Like
  • chopchop0
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    Correct... If I am going to buy any novelty tech gadget this holiday season, it will be a MSFT surface tablet with a keyboard touch cover running W8 Pro (not the low-scale Windows RT tablet)
    22 Oct 2012, 01:03 PM Reply Like
  • Jack Baker
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    Perhaps. Maybe they will continue to own the small tablet market. Or, maybe Apple will chip away at the small tablet market as people adopt tablets with lower cost products and then move up the food chain to the AAPL ecosystem. Don't forget, there may be a killer app associated with the mini. If so, AAPL will crush Samsung, Amazon and Google like a bug and take the small portion of the market they don't already own.
    22 Oct 2012, 01:09 PM Reply Like
  • pman6
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    It might work.

     

    apple can still command a premium.

     

    It's like buying a BMW 1 series. People will still buy it, even when there are lots of non-premium marques that provide more value.
    22 Oct 2012, 03:36 PM Reply Like
  • jswieter
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    Let the bottom feeders slug it out for the low margin, mediocre, low end Yugo segment. Apple never played in that space and never will. Even BMW and Audi can make high quality smaller versions of their products without harming their quality, design, prestige or margins.

     

    Apple will start to separate itself further from the herd at this stage IMO. Personally, I can't wait to buy the top-of-the-line mini's for its form factor and size. Better than any mobile phone and a great compliment to the iPhone for checking emails and surfing the web.
    22 Oct 2012, 11:37 AM Reply Like
  • chopchop0
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    You've obviously never used a nice branded android tablet from Acer, ASUS, Google or Amazon have you?
    22 Oct 2012, 12:54 PM Reply Like
  • Ashraf Eassa
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    No, they haven't.
    22 Oct 2012, 05:00 PM Reply Like
  • dab3z
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    If you're in the Apple ecosystem, why would you? Difference between hardware is almost negligible these days. Ecosystem drives consumers to buy.
    22 Oct 2012, 06:19 PM Reply Like
  • Sal Marvasti
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    Android has too many devices, causing feature creep. The number of apps that don't work properly outnumber the ones from Apple on my Ipad. http://bit.ly/Ufs6Go
    To add to the disadvantage, now you have Intel Androids, that can't properly run all the apps. Or some run slow.
    22 Oct 2012, 10:16 PM Reply Like
  • chopchop0
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    The data on app crashes suggest otherwise

     

    http://onforb.es/ACB0T2
    22 Oct 2012, 10:34 PM Reply Like
  • stevesko
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    Opening price needs to be no more than 249, but having the universal remote app could also be key. VERY LONG AAPL
    22 Oct 2012, 11:50 AM Reply Like
  • RycheMykol
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    If they don't price the mini at around the $250 price, they are going to shoot themselves in the foot.

     

    I think I read the first gen mini will be wireless only also, so I'm thinking the report from 9to5 mac is incorrect. $660 for a mini ipad???? Better off getting the full sized model then.
    22 Oct 2012, 11:55 AM Reply Like
  • balan
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    If the pricing for a "basic model" hovers around a $250 price-point, then Apple can expect iPad Mini's to be numero uno on millions of Xmas shopping lists... as long as there are no availability issues in late November.
    22 Oct 2012, 01:07 PM Reply Like
  • leokaplin
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    $249 will be cheapest price mini pad.
    22 Oct 2012, 02:09 PM Reply Like
  • sduris
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    Thanks all for agreeing with me on the $200-250 price point sweet spot. Of course, that could very well change tomorrow.
    22 Oct 2012, 02:18 PM Reply Like
  • Whitehawk
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    No expandable memory, worse graphics than iPad 3, no NFC...buy a Nexus 7. $329 price point is too high for just their ecosystem (only real differentiator).
    22 Oct 2012, 02:19 PM Reply Like
  • pman6
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    Samsung's 7" tablet goes for $250

     

    ipad mini should be a little more expensive than that at least.

     

    Even a figure like $279 might be psychologically acceptable to most.

     

    apple will never price down to $200. It has to maintain its premium image.
    That would be like bmw pricing down to VW levels.
    22 Oct 2012, 03:37 PM Reply Like
  • bailinnumberguy
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    All the armchair CEOs are back. When you can bank $125B and create a $600B company we'll take you seriously.
    22 Oct 2012, 03:47 PM Reply Like
  • sduris
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    image vs. market - if they continue to do the former, things won't bode well for them. Re: BMW, hello, 1 series, hello.
    22 Oct 2012, 03:48 PM Reply Like
  • Michael2343
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    Senseless run up in AAPL today against what continues to be a very well established downtrend in this stock. Very lucrative thus far on the big down days. Without a single announcement from Apple on which product is to be announced, rumors fly about every single possible product, it's well known Apple can't compete on price, and yet everywhere markets are indicating constricting demand and higher inventories. Timing, timing. People were much more willing to spend 12 months ago, Apple.

     

    As in the past, pre-announcement hype will probably meet with underwhelming reality.
    22 Oct 2012, 06:32 PM Reply Like
  • bailinnumberguy
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    Huh? The stock has made a modest correction for about 2 weeks and has been in an uptrend for about a decade.
    23 Oct 2012, 04:24 AM Reply Like
  • tradewin
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    sduris, I couldn't agree more with you on this. And no, it's not about margins or losing prestige, they want that whole market, period. As for the NFC, it's clearly stated in the S&P reports why Apple isn't going in that direction right now.
    22 Oct 2012, 11:51 PM Reply Like
  • sduris
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    Thanks, tradewin. Of course, AAPL could prove me wrong on the price points tomorrow, but yes, AAPL has a plan and they will stay the course on it.
    23 Oct 2012, 12:12 AM Reply Like
  • chopchop0
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    The IPad Mini will likely need to priced at $329+ to maintain AAPL's current margins

     

    http://bit.ly/SggbWr
    23 Oct 2012, 01:30 PM Reply Like
  • tradewin
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    And chopchop0 wins the door prize today. I still agree w/sduris on a lot of points and I am not an Apple person. They will sell a lot of these, but we all know now that Apple ain't giving nothin up. Happy trading days to all.
    23 Oct 2012, 09:17 PM Reply Like
  • sduris
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    Well thanks @tradewin! Mighty nice of you!!
    24 Oct 2012, 12:35 AM Reply Like
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