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More on the iPad Mini: The cheapest model (16GB Wi-Fi) goes for $329. Amazon and Google, sellers...

More on the iPad Mini: The cheapest model (16GB Wi-Fi) goes for $329. Amazon and Google, sellers of the $199 Kindle Fire HD and Nexus 7, are probably breathing sighs of relief. As expected, there's no retina display inside the Mini, but there is an HD front camera and 5MP back camera, and 3G/4G models are offered (they start at $459). Like the iPad 2, the Mini is powered by an A5 processor. Apple (AAPL -2.2%) is selling off. (live blog).
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  • pirota
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    Apple is selling something for $329 hmmm what to reckon of this ?!
    23 Oct 2012, 02:15 PM Reply Like
  • rubicon59
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    Pirota - why spend so much time on Apple's board if you are down on Apple so much? Go get a job.
    23 Oct 2012, 05:00 PM Reply Like
  • Zhang Fei
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    This is a signal for AAPL fans to buy more of the stock before it goes any lower. They really ought to consider buying a dozen of each AAPL device just in case AAPL stops making them. As we all know, AAPL devices are like gold - a store of value that they can pass on to their heirs.
    23 Oct 2012, 05:15 PM Reply Like
  • pirota
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    Yeah I heard that if you dig a hole in the ground and put an iDevice there after 5 years it will turn to gold
    23 Oct 2012, 05:55 PM Reply Like
  • Articuno
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    If you add pirota into the hole, it'll grow into gold faster, better than manure...or at least it's a special type.
    24 Oct 2012, 12:23 AM Reply Like
  • Positive Equity
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    Apple will make money for every iPad mini they sell and the mini will extend their 70% share of the market in tablets. Apple is a money machine with no end in sight. The Smart money invests in companies that make money and not spend it chasing Apple's increasing market shares. All the squawking on here about price point is baseless at best.

     

    The take home lesson from Tim Cook's announcement is that Apple tablet products account for 90% of the web traffic on tablets. That is worth billions to advertisers who are seeing weakness in Google's PC based search ads. Apple is the king of mobile devices and will capitalize on this strong trend. Just look at Facebook's stock price increase after earnings to see what a solid mobile strategy will do to the stock price of a company. Wake up people Apple is cheap at these prices for long term investors.
    24 Oct 2012, 10:52 AM Reply Like
  • TRHanson
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    "Google's PC based search ads"

     

    Wait what? The internet is PC based?

     

    Also, the 90% of web traffic on tablets comment doesn't mean a whole lot. 90% of what traffic? How did they gather this info? Is that 90% of traffic going to Apple.com? Comparing apple owning the tablet market to FB is not a good comparison. FB is an ad delivery service. The fact that X% of FB traffic is on an iDevice means nothing to Apple other than the fact that they are selling a ton of units.

     

    That being said, I agree that Apple is a cash machine right now (and is undervalued), but unless they continue to make groundbreaking innovations (and making higher res 10" screens isn't exactly groundbreaking) they will start to give it back. The iPod was a revolutionary change to how we consume music, the iPhone was the first smart phone that was stylish, functional, and a huge improvement over the current standard (at that time RIMM), and the iPad was a revolution for the tablet market and pretty much made netbooks obsolete overnight. They need to continue being able to make truly meaningful innovations to continue this rapid growth.
    24 Oct 2012, 12:00 PM Reply Like
  • TruffelPig
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    Logical that AAPL doesn't go to $199 here. They will sell this one for $199 when it is upgraded! The sigh of relieve is a tad early. Just give it 6 month.
    23 Oct 2012, 02:20 PM Reply Like
  • jocca
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    The iPod touch starts at 299$ for a 32 GB model, and so it is no surprise that the iPad mini will start at 329$ for the 16GB model. The new size gives Apple users an intermediate form factor to choose from and is not meant to compete with the cheaper built of the competitors since it comes with a retina display the built and finish that Apple is known for. It is not geared for people who look at price as the only prime reason to buy into, that is not how Apple makes its money, mercifully.
    23 Oct 2012, 03:01 PM Reply Like
  • chopchop0
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    The mini will not come with retina. It has the same specs as the IPad 2
    23 Oct 2012, 03:10 PM Reply Like
  • citypound
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    Who's right?
    23 Oct 2012, 03:57 PM Reply Like
  • John1138
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    Not quite the same specs. the mini has the same number of pixels but in a smaller area, so the pixel density (resolution?) is higher than the 2, but somewhat lower than the Retina iPad.
    23 Oct 2012, 04:32 PM Reply Like
  • berylrb
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    Right on 264 ppi ipad retina, 164 ipad mini, 132 ipad2
    24 Oct 2012, 10:52 AM Reply Like
  • Sam Liu
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    "Who's right?"

     

    "The mini will not come with retina. It has the same specs as the IPad 2"
    24 Oct 2012, 11:10 AM Reply Like
  • trudem1919
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    Watched the unveiling; great efficient devise. The 329 price point was disappointing; even 299 made more sense. This price point does not touch Kindle in the least. Opportunity missed to squash the lower nich and infect class of users who will not be exposed to apple due to cost. The Larger IPhone 5 may compete with Kindle a little, but no direct competition ! Good news is margin compression will be avoided at this level; and I still feel it will fly off the shelves for the rest of this year.
    23 Oct 2012, 02:30 PM Reply Like
  • 215304
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    Agree. The iPad Mini build quality, specs, and user experience are far superior to the Kindle Fire, the comparison of screen views during the presentation was remarkable. Anyone who sees the two side by side who can afford the extra $120 will buy the iPad Mini. Those who can't afford it will settle for the Kindle. Apple will easily sell all the Minis they can ship. All these new products scream that the Christmas quarter is going to be phenomenal for Apple.
    23 Oct 2012, 02:46 PM Reply Like
  • chopchop0
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    The market doesn't like the price point. Should have gone with $279-299
    23 Oct 2012, 02:30 PM Reply Like
  • gensearch2
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    Feel free to start your own tablet company.

     

    If they sold it at $279 you would be whining about Apple cutting margins. It didn't matter what Apple offered you and pirota would be whining.
    23 Oct 2012, 02:40 PM Reply Like
  • nungster
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    And if they built a piece of shabby electronic crap people would spout that Apple has turned to cheap shabby crap. If you want a $199 tablet then buy a $199 tablet. You get what you pay for. After you have that cheap tablet and see it side-by-side to something nicer you realize you bought a cheap piece of crap, but you suck it up and make yourself happy by thinking of all that money you saved.
    23 Oct 2012, 03:07 PM Reply Like
  • Internal Source
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    Agree. $299 to start for an 8GB model would have pleased the street crowd. So many 'Murricans can't afford $329. Many can, true, but it's like a BMW - superb build, great car, superior margins, but the majority of 'Murricans would prefer a dumb-arse F150 pickup truck plastic-and-steel bad fit-and-finish old-school relic - so the perception is that it doesn't compete.
    23 Oct 2012, 03:29 PM Reply Like
  • Glenn Abrett
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    Except it is 16gb -- comparable to slightly smaller, plastic, cheaper competition at 299. I think they actually did exactly the right thing here. They made a device that will sell a large quantity, will eat into the sales of the kindle, will still keep margins reasonable, will hands down win the look and feel in any side-by-side comparison and will offer a lower entry point around the world for people who want 'an apple' to show off to their friends.

     

    In fact, thought the whole presentation and product refresh about as good and strong as one could hope for.

     

    Although it seems there is 'nothing new' anywhere -- the difficult tech problems solved here in terms of lightness and thinness are impressive. As have said before, no one should expect anything new and radical from any tablet of smartphone maker -- the new and radical has been done -- it is now a matter of execution and details.
    Apple will rule this roost until someone comes along with a real game changer (google glasses anyone?). No one is going to beat apple at its own game -- it's supply chain economics, design prowess and overall ecology are simply too strong to beat -- without something radically new.

     

    Or, to put it another way -- apple has won the smartphone and tablet war -- it is not in their interest to promote something radical in those spaces -- it is up to the competition -- probably some new, as yet to be heard from company -- to come up with the radical new device that changes the game.
    23 Oct 2012, 04:34 PM Reply Like
  • rubicon59
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    Of course, we have no idea how many cheeep Android tables are being sold. No one except Apple releases sales numbers. (I suspect a lot fewer than Apple-haters would like to believe.)
    23 Oct 2012, 05:06 PM Reply Like
  • Say What?
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    IS, ru a three year old?
    23 Oct 2012, 05:13 PM Reply Like
  • Jack Baker
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    The surface area of a 7" tablet is not slightly smaller. The surface are difference is 30%. That is significant.
    23 Oct 2012, 05:30 PM Reply Like
  • VictorHAustin
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    I noticed the market really hated that it has the new connector. So I'm trying to figure who has millions to trade and was surprised by that, or more likely, who thought that was going to freak out a bunch of Apple holders and scare them into a panic sell while the presentation was still in progress.
    23 Oct 2012, 06:46 PM Reply Like
  • VictorHAustin
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    Cook made it clear Apple strongly believes the extra area is needed and they were determined not to offer a trimmed down device. I like the way they trimmed the bezel and paid attention to making it work well in one hand.
    23 Oct 2012, 06:49 PM Reply Like
  • Ernie7
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    panic selling b/c of the next-gen connector?
    23 Oct 2012, 10:40 PM Reply Like
  • debtfree1
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    It's Like a BMW but lower maintenance :)
    24 Oct 2012, 01:46 AM Reply Like
  • Internal Source
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    No you are!..

     

    :D
    24 Oct 2012, 06:23 AM Reply Like
  • dwilly
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    you pay for quality
    25 Oct 2012, 08:38 AM Reply Like
  • dwilly
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    $30?????
    25 Oct 2012, 08:39 AM Reply Like
  • pocohonta
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    Someone previously commented that mini iPad at a sub $300 price will result in "margin compression", but with this higher price point $329+, I think we have a "margin expansion" (and yet, Apple is confident that every single iPad, 4thGen iPad and miniPad will be sold and sales backlogged)

     

    Nevertheless, the stock is tanking? sell on the news today?
    23 Oct 2012, 02:36 PM Reply Like
  • gensearch2
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    Anyone can cherry pick to "explain" why a stock is going in any direction. It's like explaining why it rained. "Perhaps because there are clouds?"
    23 Oct 2012, 02:43 PM Reply Like
  • bailinnumberguy
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    Tanking? LOL. Check on what AAPL's share price was a year ago, 2 years ago and 3 years ago.
    23 Oct 2012, 11:44 PM Reply Like
  • HZLIU
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    The move of stock price tell everything. AMZN recovered and AAPL tanked.
    23 Oct 2012, 02:40 PM Reply Like
  • chopchop0
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    Yup. I think a $249-299 price point would have done the opposite to those stocks
    23 Oct 2012, 02:41 PM Reply Like
  • gensearch2
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    And if was in the $249-$299 price range and went down, you would have flipped in a minute and whined about margin compression.
    23 Oct 2012, 03:40 PM Reply Like
  • who?
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    Amazon have low margins and little profit.

     

    Guess that makes you very clever for buying Amazon and selling Apple?

     

    You can lower your margins anytime to increase volume, its easy.

     

    Increasing your margins to increase profit is hard as it reduces volume.

     

    Apple is an amazing safe and well run company with high margins that can be reduced in the distant future to drive sales, lots of cash on hand and products so in demand they cant make them fast enough...

     

    The share price is crazy cheap.
    23 Oct 2012, 03:55 PM Reply Like
  • rubicon59
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    The move in the stock price just confirms how clueless WST is.
    23 Oct 2012, 05:06 PM Reply Like
  • Zhang Fei
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    "Apple is an amazing safe and well run company with high margins that can be reduced in the distant future to drive sales, lots of cash on hand and products so in demand they cant make them fast enough..."

     

    They can make them fast enough. Heck - Samsung's smartphones have been outselling iPhones and they can make them fast enough. The issue is that Apple chooses not to make them fast enough because it wants to squeeze out the last few pennies from production efficiencies, and it wants to project an image of a product so good that they can't make them fast enough. You can't predict the end point of a nuclear bomb project or a ballistic missile program. Mass production of another me-too smartphone that's been outsourced to Foxconn is several orders of magnitude more predictable and easier. And if I hear one more thing about how Apple's this great manager of its supply chain, when it's outsourced supply chain management to Foxconn, I'm gonna barf.
    23 Oct 2012, 05:23 PM Reply Like
  • VictorHAustin
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    I'm thinking lots of sell on news. The market environ was poor too.
    Speculators who were in in case of an upside surprise took their bets out and moved on.

     

    Didn't fully retreat to prior low. Yet another retest. The retests go on and on until an investor begin to question his/her reason and wonder if the bashers actually trade, then it returns to sanity.
    23 Oct 2012, 06:54 PM Reply Like
  • scott trader
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    The bashers ....hmm a bunch of techies,programmers with agendas imo.. lot of them work for msft or goog or rimm (who) ???or have put a big bet on Nokia because they are hoping for a bounce off the bottom,,,,they can dream away with their 2 dollar and change Nokia lotto tickets.... they can't afford too many aapl shares ....I guess the sellers want Tim Cook to do the Balmer out of breath dancing monkey ....
    23 Oct 2012, 07:37 PM Reply Like
  • Ernie7
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    ''''''Samsung's smartphones have been outselling iPhones and they can make them fast enough.'''''''

     

    making garbage is easier than making something with very strict quality standards.
    23 Oct 2012, 10:44 PM Reply Like
  • Ernie7
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    '''''outsourced supply chain management to Foxconn'''''

     

    thanks. i needed a good laugh today.
    23 Oct 2012, 10:45 PM Reply Like
  • chopchop0
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    I guess Consumer Reports prefers garbage LOL

     

    http://nbcnews.to/Qczf5k
    23 Oct 2012, 10:58 PM Reply Like
  • Steve Walkman
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    Now, yes. But wait til earnings.
    23 Oct 2012, 11:18 PM Reply Like
  • scott trader
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    @Rubicon....ditto
    24 Oct 2012, 02:07 AM Reply Like
  • 215304
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    The build quality of the iPhone 5 is far superior to any of Samsung's phones and the attention to detail/quality control in the assembly process is what is slowing production. Have you seen the drop tests between the Samsung Galaxy III and the iPhone 5? Compare the iPhone 5 with any other phone-aluminum vs cheap plastic. And by the way, most other smart phone companies use Foxconn or other Chinese contract manufacturers to perform the final assembly process. The majority of Samsung Galaxy SIII models are assembled in China, only the 16 gb Blue is assembled in Korea.
    24 Oct 2012, 10:33 AM Reply Like
  • chopchop0
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    Yawn....

     

    http://nbcnews.to/Qczf5k

     

    http://bit.ly/PZfYmW

     

    http://cnet.co/TG9CcC
    24 Oct 2012, 11:26 AM Reply Like
  • E = MC Hammer
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    AAPL sold only 16 million IPads this quarter based on Cook's statement that they sold their 100 millionth IPad. That does not bode well for earnings. 16 million is on the low end of estimates.
    23 Oct 2012, 02:40 PM Reply Like
  • aperture1
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    Could they have sold 103 million and Cook would have said the same thing?
    23 Oct 2012, 02:55 PM Reply Like
  • TruffelPig
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    For all those fast shooters: the day is not over.
    23 Oct 2012, 02:46 PM Reply Like
  • Rummeljordan
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    Well it is now, and we see how it ended up.
    23 Oct 2012, 04:36 PM Reply Like
  • fauxscot
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    I bet it flies off the shelves.

     

    Pretty much everything they make does.
    23 Oct 2012, 02:59 PM Reply Like
  • tiger8896
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    Smaller version of the iPad 2 is how I would describe it, since the iPad 2 sells for $399 selling the mini for $329 seems right in the ballpark.

     

    The mini seems made not to compete with less than $250 7" Android tablets but more to give Apple tablet customers more of a choice of the size of tablet they prefer. I don't think Apple has to worry about the mini cannibalizing sales of the the larger iPads
    23 Oct 2012, 03:06 PM Reply Like
  • chopchop0
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    A choice? Jobs never thought to give customers a "choice" He has a 7" tablet should come with sandpaper so you could sand your fingers down to the appropriate size to use it LOL

     

    Nope. AAPL knew they were losing sales to AMZN and GOOG and this is the response. Time will tell how it turns out.
    23 Oct 2012, 03:11 PM Reply Like
  • gensearch2
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    From the web traffic data either people that buy those other tablets are too stupid to get on the web or the products are unusable. You can likely buy one on the secondary market cheap.
    23 Oct 2012, 03:37 PM Reply Like
  • who?
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    This is how it will turn out:

     

    Apple is already and will remain the most profitable company in the world.

     

    That is the main goal for a company is it not?

     

    Seems most people have forgotten or Facebook and Amazon would be worth 20% of current valuations.
    23 Oct 2012, 04:01 PM Reply Like
  • VictorHAustin
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    Straw man argument, cc. Cook dint say that. He said they had a much better tablet than an Android. Don't want better, don't choose Apple.

     

    Which device to buy, which stock to buy are two different questions.
    23 Oct 2012, 06:59 PM Reply Like
  • VictorHAustin
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    They don't need a fully capable tablet to use all the time. Go for something affordable. Rational decision.

     

    Not Apple customers. Why leave a pile of money on the table trying to pretend everyone is your customer?
    23 Oct 2012, 07:01 PM Reply Like
  • DanoX
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    The consumers get a full performance iPad for a cheaper price, just in time for Christmas the new iPad simply performs.
    23 Oct 2012, 03:11 PM Reply Like
  • Kenn Wagenheim
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    Glad to see AAPL not participate in the race to the bottom of their competitors!
    23 Oct 2012, 03:20 PM Reply Like
  • Zhang Fei
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    The Apple IIe did not compete with the IBM PC's race to the bottom. It ended up with 5% market share, and had to cut prices anyway. The Macintosh did not compete with the Windows PC's race to the bottom. Same thing happened.
    23 Oct 2012, 05:32 PM Reply Like
  • VictorHAustin
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    Windows had the race to he bottom pretty well locked up. Gates' stroke of genius was the IBM exclusive, not copying CPM instead of Multics. Apple vs IBM never was a fair fight -- Windows inherited the monopoly.
    23 Oct 2012, 07:05 PM Reply Like
  • Zhang Fei
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    <I>Apple vs IBM never was a fair fight -- Windows inherited the monopoly.</i>

     

    Apple could have owned the PC market. It chose to price its products at a massive premium right from the start. The rest is history. The same will happen with the i-products. Sony had a great run with the Walkman when it was new. Then it became just another me-too product vendor.
    23 Oct 2012, 07:20 PM Reply Like
  • Sam Liu
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    i have a problem with current Macs lack of optical drives and docking stations.

     

    When my current MacBook Pro goes out of warrantee, I might have to go out again, just as it took me practically 30 years to get into its ecosystem.

     

    Oh well that's life.
    23 Oct 2012, 09:00 PM Reply Like
  • jstarrdewar
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    I've lived without an optical drive for two years. You won't miss it. Docking station? You can use a hub that plugs in with the Thunderbolt cable. That's just one connector for all your peripherals.

     

    If you're invested in software – which people forget sometimes costs a lot more than the hardware if you're a professional user – then switching wouldn't be very economical in dollars or in time spent retraining yourself.
    24 Oct 2012, 02:29 AM Reply Like
  • podmeister
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    The thing is, AAPL will make money on the iPad mini, AMZN hasn't figured out how to make money yet on the Kindle.

     

    Price is the last refuge of the marketer, and Apple products have always been premium products, so there's no need to discount the brand by being the low price leader. $329 is a good entry point, and is close enough to those low price Android tablets to make you consider moving up. This up-sell is consistent with Apple's marketing and business philosophy.
    23 Oct 2012, 03:28 PM Reply Like
  • bailinnumberguy
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    Amazon makes up for its loss on each Kindle sold w/ volume.
    23 Oct 2012, 11:44 PM Reply Like
  • sduris
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    Digesting today a bit, the price tells me more about their strategy - I think it's less about playing in AMZN's sandbox even though they had enough to say about GOOG at the "show" today and more about a great replacement to the ipad2 and giving the customer segments, that gives them the highest margins, what they want. For example, larger website views, etc. tells me they might want to go more towards boomers. After all, that is the largest pop segment. AAPL wouldn't compete on price, nor should anyone (read: dotcom bubble burst). That's a bad strategy. But it's done when your value propositions are weak. AAPL never has to compete on price, their m.o. has always been on value and customer experience. Also, I like the complement spin as seen in the ad. BTW, ingenuous, to have pre-sales be on the day earnings come out. That also tells me a lot. Sorry, I'm a marketer, and I too look at where the puck will be not where it is.
    23 Oct 2012, 03:36 PM Reply Like
  • Say What?
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    Everyone competes on value
    Value = ProductService Offer / Price

     

    Apple simply has the greatest latitude on both the denominator and numerator to out-match all the competition.
    24 Oct 2012, 12:51 AM Reply Like
  • sduris
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    Incorrect. Price is not a value. Value is what is the benefit to the market/consumer. Steve Jobs and other visionaries talk about this. Competing on price is what burst the dotcom bubble. Look at the best-run, best performing companies. They don't compete on price. Steve Jobs received great schooling from Regis McKenna, who taught Steve a lot about marketing, pricing, advertising, etc. Creating a compelling value proposition and to differentiate yourself from your competitors is how the game is played and won. If you don't believe me, just look at AAPL late 1985 - 1996.
    24 Oct 2012, 01:36 PM Reply Like
  • Luke Skywooker
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    why do they only have 16GB model, why not an 8GB model for $279 or $299
    23 Oct 2012, 03:49 PM Reply Like
  • VictorHAustin
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    Would require compromising quality. Yet again I say Apple is not trying to dominate the low end market. Has no interest whatsoever in all the sales. Having aggressive pricers fighting hard leaves Apple free of the burden of handling low margin volume just to keep the category alive.
    23 Oct 2012, 07:08 PM Reply Like
  • Rookie IRA Investor
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    Of course it will sell well for Christmas, that is a given, but if it was made by any other company it would be dismissed as useless for not having an USB port to which you can attach a USB data modem and use it anywhere in the world.
    23 Oct 2012, 03:50 PM Reply Like
  • John1138
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    For anyone who needs that it will be available via the port it does have and for everyone else who doesn't need that they won't have to buy it: from a three second google: http://bit.ly/TEAKZx
    23 Oct 2012, 04:36 PM Reply Like
  • criticalbear
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    people should really stop commenting before they tried the product. this isn't a 7" device as you've seen in the video. This also isn't a device meant to force you to buy content. Remember AMZN's business strategy is to sell you a device, make money off content. Apple is opposite, their business strategy is around the device and they have an expectation of break even content.
    23 Oct 2012, 03:50 PM Reply Like
  • Brentis
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    They already found 100million + people to buy the larger size at luxury price point. We don't think we will find another 200 million to buy at 2/3rds? That's a pair of latest Nike shoes, 2 PS3 games, and a night playing hi-roller with $100..

     

    Not to mention 1 year later you can still sell it for $200. The me-too pads, will be in trash.
    23 Oct 2012, 04:31 PM Reply Like
  • DanoX
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    Apple will reduce the price to 300 dollars for next christmas. one year from now.
    23 Oct 2012, 05:06 PM Reply Like
  • pirota
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    I don't know what do you mean by "me-too pads" but I like my Galaxy Tab a lot and to be very true I would not take the iPad mini even if someone would give it to me as a present
    23 Oct 2012, 05:27 PM Reply Like
  • VictorHAustin
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    You're nuts. I'd take a free Galaxy in a heartbeat, even if I ended up donating it to a good cause. Send me one?
    23 Oct 2012, 07:11 PM Reply Like
  • BRASIL
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    Pirota..I am almost starting to like you..my grandparents came from the "Old Country" and I feel you are kind of a kindred spirit. I won't send you my last IPad, since you won't accept it, but you would see the difference between being satisfied and loving a device......you should at least try one for a while, since you are so interested in this subject. ...and then you could speak from experience.
    23 Oct 2012, 07:53 PM Reply Like
  • rubicon59
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    Pirota-I thought the only thing that mattered to to is price? Why would you not take free? (Could it be somezorher agenda at work?)
    23 Oct 2012, 08:12 PM Reply Like
  • Ernie7
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    '''''I would not take the iPad mini even if someone would give it to me as a present ''''''

     

    that seems silly. Galaxy Tab is garbage, however I'd still accept it as a gift, just because i wouldn't want to offend the thoughtful person giving me a present.
    23 Oct 2012, 10:57 PM Reply Like
  • DanoX
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    You sir are frustrating and that is being nice!!
    25 Oct 2012, 10:36 PM Reply Like
  • dwilly
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    Once the consumer puts it in their hands they'll buy
    23 Oct 2012, 04:48 PM Reply Like
  • bgold1955
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    For those that watched the podcast I hope that you agree with me that it was not only about the mini but the entire computer line, I.e., Mac Air, Mac Book, and Pad, were all beautifully redesigned with what I felt was amazing technology. All this stuff is soooo way ahead of the competition that I could see them refocusing, for the next year, on something new, something special. Being in the technology field in my younger days, I am convinced that these folks have a plan and they are executing

     

    Perhaps shares go down this week, but absolutely no way am I selling 1 share after I realized what these guys are doing today. Long live Mr Cook.
    23 Oct 2012, 05:29 PM Reply Like
  • Sal Marvasti
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    $250 would be better price, apple will not gain from nexus at this price.
    23 Oct 2012, 05:58 PM Reply Like
  • Ernie7
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    ''''$250 would be better price, apple will not gain from nexus at this price. '''''

     

    why worry about _MARKET_ share when you have all the _PROFIT_ share...
    23 Oct 2012, 10:59 PM Reply Like
  • jktczh
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    iPad mini is for the kids! Schools are going to go nuts over it!
    23 Oct 2012, 06:02 PM Reply Like
  • Mortonk
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    I've had an IPod video player for ten years, still works fine for music, had iPod touches and lucky enough to have an IPad now. It's about quality that lasts.....I've also had three Samsung TV's two of which had faults within three years.....that in my book is the difference......quality lasts......!
    23 Oct 2012, 06:10 PM Reply Like
  • SLOFireDon
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    The "Street" has never given Apple the respect it deserves...and they always demand more and more for less and less! Apple is the MBZ , Samsung the Ford and Microsoft the Kia with lots of models in between. Why should Apple ACT like Ford, KIA, or anybody else for that matter? I was sitting in a coffee shop yesterday and there were 5 Apples, 1 Dell and 1 Acer being used....
    I own a PC and an IPad2 which travels everywhere with me and is totally reliable each and every trip. The battery lasts and lasts over 8 hrs without any issues.....You get what you pay for!!!
    23 Oct 2012, 07:38 PM Reply Like
  • Chamillionaire
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    Its another CraApple scam. The nexus 7 has a better display, on par battery life, and oh yeah...costs about $100 dollars less for the 16GB comparable version.

     

    Did you know, the super high res screen in ipad 3 is not in the ipad mini? Stupid mistake by Apple for sure. If you want to dominate the small tablets, why not make a screen with super high resolution to offset the screen size?

     

    The short of it. Apple fans are like groupies at a boy band concert and will shell out an extra $130 and wait in lines for 5 days because they are supported by their parents.
    23 Oct 2012, 08:10 PM Reply Like
  • Ernie7
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    tell us how you really feel.
    23 Oct 2012, 11:00 PM Reply Like
  • Michael2343
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    Apple sells exclusive software, that's why they can sell proprietary hardware.

     

    The competition is catching up so Apple has to sell things at competitive prices now.

     

    But more importantly, its painfully clear they can't dominiate in terms of market share, not globally.

     

    Apple should shrink and focus on niche products. They should care more about their customers like Apple used to. They've abandoned their principles and enjoyed a short term rise, driven by targeting product specs to demographics, pushing features for the sake of features, making new accessories and focusing on upgrade paths. In a nutshell, everyone loses.

     

    It's obvious the design advantage they held over Microsoft in the old days is not converting to current times. They aren't pushing it like that anymore - they are fighting for market share and profitability and dropping the standards. That's why the competition is now so attractive, at least by comparison.
    23 Oct 2012, 09:02 PM Reply Like
  • Gene S
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    The drop in price is an incredible overreaction to news that Apple has made an intelligent pricing decision in light of the huge demand for their products and the production constraints faced in the near term.

     

    Apple won't be able to meet the demand for the new Mini for 6-8 months, so why not make their normal generous profit on what they can deliver.

     

    Part of the reason for the constraints on production is that Apple has resourced most components, taking at least $13 Billion away from Samsung, fulfilling Steve Jobs' strong desire to punish Samsung for theft of intellectual property.

     

    When the next release of the Mini comes out -- probably in less than a year, the lowest price will probably drop to $249.99. It makes sense to leave some room for competitive price-cutting in the future. Keep in mind that--at $200--Samsung, Google, B&N and Amazon aren't making any money.

     

    In the meanwhile, my son found a very nice and no-cost hack for me, which transformed my WebOS (boat anchor)16K HP TouchPad into a very nice fast 10-inch Android tablet -- which cost me only $100.
    23 Oct 2012, 11:11 PM Reply Like
  • bailinnumberguy
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    There are occasional insightful comments here, but for the most part.... In case you haven't been paying attention for the last 35 years or so, Apple has never tried to compete on price. They're focus is on making high quality products. If they'd come out w/ a $199 piece of tin, I would've been a lot more concerned. What they're offering here w/ the iPad Mini is a more portable iPad 2 w/o giving up any other functionality. You can hold the iPad Mini in one hand. It's much more easy to use for reading, taking pictures, putting in briefcases or purses, etc.

     

    Who cares about today's price action or yesterday's or last weeks? It's been the best company and the best stock in the world for about a decade. Sell your shares and stop whining. I'd love to load up further at lower prices.
    23 Oct 2012, 11:41 PM Reply Like
  • sduris
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    amen, bailin.
    25 Oct 2012, 10:50 AM Reply Like
  • bailinnumberguy
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    Buying an iPad Mini at $329 is actually cheaper than most or all of its competitors' less expensive offerings when you consider resale. I can buy an iPad Mini next week for $329, use it for a year and probably sell it for $250. There is no or a lame secondary market for a Kindle Fire, Nook or any of the other contenders. That's the magic of the Apple name. You can instantly sell your outdated model for most of its value and upgrade for the difference. No doubt Apple considered the price point and margins very carefully, far more so than any of us sitting on the sidelines.
    23 Oct 2012, 11:54 PM Reply Like
  • scott trader
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    used 8 gb kindle fires resell for @ 85 $ on ebay at present time 721 for sale
    25 Oct 2012, 11:17 AM Reply Like
  • 1980XLS-2.0
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    i-margin compression.

     

    Competition has a way of doing that.

     

    And no, it's not different this time.

     

    Owning a stock when one is emotionally obsessed with a company's products, is a very risky combination.

     

    People lose their objectivity.

     

    And no it does not matter how much they sell nor how much you (underlined) like it.

     

    Only how much money they make in doing so.
    23 Oct 2012, 11:59 PM Reply Like
  • lwong180
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    mixed thoughts on Macrumors, which isn't good. some people say they'll get it for 4g LTE use.
    24 Oct 2012, 12:08 AM Reply Like
  • etoken
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    The competition is way behind Apple. The chip speed and new fusion drive talked about today are the biggest stories in my mind.

     

    Also - didn't that ipad mini resemble something already in the living room that men and women fight over after the nightly news???

     

    In a year or so I see an ipad mini for every TV... like to see them put the technology together to be the new universal...
    24 Oct 2012, 12:16 AM Reply Like
  • etoken
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    Individual investor... nearly 30 years experience in IT and 20 years building a business... Humble enough to know the market has it's own mind, our job as individual investors is to get in tune with the 1000's of things that can affect a stock price. So, I've come to know that for me... I can really only follow five or less stocks at a time as an amateur individual investor.
    24 Oct 2012, 12:17 AM Reply Like
  • Heathrow
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    The 329 price point is very generous to Apple's competitors. It allows them to continue to lose money on low price tablets as they compete amongst themselves in the subprime tablet market.
    24 Oct 2012, 06:11 AM Reply Like
  • mrfisher111
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    its funny people say oh they can't afford 329 it should of been 299. If you dont have an extra 30 bucks in your pocket your doomed anyways. People will want it and 329 is the rock bottom price i would pay for it.But 30 buck difference is not much. And if anyone thinks google or amazon will compete with apples mini get real. Nobody cares about the price they want the eco system. I am going to buy a mini i don't mind the 329 price.
    24 Oct 2012, 06:19 AM Reply Like
  • Robert Egloff
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    Honestly; for me, it's still too much. But that's a personal opinion. For many it will be well worth the money.

     

    I paid 3500+ for the 8.4" Touch Screen UConnect in my car, so it's relative to one's needs, of course, that's built in - with Navigation, Climate Controls and all that jazz.

     

    I'm willing to pay for a tablet, but I cannot have it locked to a specific OS. I want to load Ubuntu Linux; since one of my hobbies is.. coding, lol. I *need* flexibility on the machine more than portability. Portability is something I can live without, flexibility on the device is not.

     

    And no - the iPad, the MS Surface are anything but flexible in terms of what I personally need.

     

    So it's not for me, but I'm glad to see them doing well. Competition in Technology benefits the consumers - if only Apple or MSFT existed - it would suck for the consumer. They both need to stay viable, or at the least, be replaced by something just as viable.

     

    So you can't really say "Apple is better" or "Apple is worse" - that is totally subjective.
    24 Oct 2012, 11:10 AM Reply Like
  • AutoRegressive
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    I have never purchased an aapl product before but I'm going to buy this.
    24 Oct 2012, 12:42 PM Reply Like
  • 215304
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    Don't be surprised if you buy other Apple products based on your experience with this one. I bought my first Apple product in 2008, now I have three.
    25 Oct 2012, 11:07 AM Reply Like
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