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More on Vringo: The federal judge overseeing the Vringo-Google case has ruled Vringo (VRNG...

More on Vringo: The federal judge overseeing the Vringo-Google case has ruled Vringo (VRNG -42.3%) can't collect damages from Google for the 6 years preceding the filing, should the jury rule Google to be infringing Vringo's IP. The judge also shot down a Vringo request to refrain from making a final ruling on the matter until Vringo presented a rebuttal witness. (tip: SA author Modernist)
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  • Modernist
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    would you say laches was a "black swan" judgement?

     

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    31 Oct 2012, 03:14 PM Reply Like
  • lemuelua@gmail.com
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    you are right for the wrong reasons. MSJ is not the same as JMOL (judgment as matter of law). you really shouldn't wave the "i told you so" flag when you said the wrong things.
    31 Oct 2012, 03:21 PM Reply Like
  • Modernist
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    as you know being an attorney yourself, SJ and JMOL are both judgments as matter of law made by judge. juries make judgments as matters of fact. i don't like to recycle content in articles; laches was a very simple concept; i only needed to mention it once. how many times did james altucher mention it?
    31 Oct 2012, 03:28 PM Reply Like
  • lemuelua@gmail.com
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    standards of review are different. The MSJ was dead on arrival, while the JMOL with regards to Laches had a basis (the two parties had already presented their cases), thus it had a better chance of being granted.

     

    Good point bringing up the Laches something that I believe James Altucher and SteveKimLaw and myself just glazed over, but again, you are right for the wrong reasons.
    31 Oct 2012, 03:43 PM Reply Like
  • Modernist
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    if anything, i was wrong for the right reasons
    31 Oct 2012, 04:02 PM Reply Like
  • skydivers01
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    Is this accurate or inaccurate.. Only pacer will tell us.

     

    http://bit.ly/SdnP1c
    31 Oct 2012, 04:37 PM Reply Like
  • brudd
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    Bring it on for the rest of the lawsuits. A precedent setting jury decision also increase the long term value of VRNG. To all the get rich quick artists out there...... I'm sorry. Follow me and hold as an investment. Even buy a little more when it gets down to $1.00
    31 Oct 2012, 05:17 PM Reply Like
  • brudd
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    Are there really no comments here? I have commented and never get published. Are others in the same boat?
    31 Oct 2012, 05:17 PM Reply Like
  • annagolubev
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    when will the trial wrap up? is there any update on the next meeting?
    31 Oct 2012, 05:18 PM Reply Like
  • Drogbat90
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    Just read about this an hour ago on another site. It's sending the share price all over the place today!
    31 Oct 2012, 05:18 PM Reply Like
  • Z-Tranche
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    Pump the rumor. Dump the news. It might hit a dollar tomorrow. As long as the jury decides in Vringo's favor there will at least be a modest gain to be had in the short term.
    31 Oct 2012, 05:47 PM Reply Like
  • BTM
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    We need Steve Kims take on this. On the surface however it seems the Quinn Emmanuel tried the case on damages... and are going to win. Without being able to get the previous 6 years damages, there isn't going to be much here for VRNG to win.
    31 Oct 2012, 05:58 PM Reply Like
  • Workinprogress
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    It appears from my perspective that most of the Vringo-related attention is on this trial, so it doesn't have the buffer that Google has, as it is such a small company, it its stock value percentage changes more each day than GOOG.
    31 Oct 2012, 06:36 PM Reply Like
  • $CLU
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    I'm sure that was a pleasant surprise for Mark Cuban!
    Wake up to 1/3 of your investment gone!
    31 Oct 2012, 06:57 PM Reply Like
  • Workinprogress
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    And, even if Vringo wins the trial, will it be able to recover from these very heavy losses during the trial?
    31 Oct 2012, 08:58 PM Reply Like
  • jpandya
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    that about does it.....i think vringo or rather gringos, ran smack

     

    into an uppercut....
    1 Nov 2012, 01:31 AM Reply Like
  • JRLUTZ
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    Google should buy-out as an Acquisition VRNG, it has 40 Billion in Cash, and buy it at a Fair Price too. Vringo is worth something with Nokia's Patents, since there seems to be a Patent Lawsuit wave in the Valley !!!!!
    1 Nov 2012, 08:12 AM Reply Like
  • Workinprogress
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    That could create an interesting trend within the entire market....it's always a good idea to take a look at the bigger picture.
    1 Nov 2012, 08:55 PM Reply Like
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