Microsoft (MSFT) Windows and Windows Live President Steven Sinofsky is leaving the company, with...

Microsoft (MSFT) Windows and Windows Live President Steven Sinofsky is leaving the company, with Julie Larson-Green to be promoted to lead all Windows software and hardware engineering. Some had previously speculated a successful Windows 8 could one day propel Sinofsky to the firm's top job. (PR)

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  • Ashraf Eassa
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    Wonder if that's why the stock was down today. Wait...who needs to wonder. Of course it's why.
    12 Nov 2012, 08:51 PM Reply Like
  • MLP Trader
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    Or could it be that people are realizing just how lame Surface and Win 8 actually are?


    Ballmer has already admitted that sales have been "modest." In Ballmerese, that means they've flopped.


    Previously I called MSFT the new Ashton-Tate. I was a little off. It's more like the new Lakeside Press (RR. Donnelly). Eventually it too will yield about 10% and it won't be because of increasing dividends.

    12 Nov 2012, 09:35 PM Reply Like
  • KevinRemde
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    No, Ashraf, I think it's because of Ballmer's comments about Surface sales. But on that subject, I think the sales number is to be expected given the conscious choice Microsoft made to limit the sales vehicles only to Microsoft Stores and Microsoft's online store. (I know people in Omaha who would buy it in a heartbeat if only they could actually touch one first!)


    Another thought - and I'm just speculating here. (Although I work for the company, I don't work on this product or in this capacity) It may be a smart crawl-walk-run on Microsoft's part. They introduce and then sell some seriously good hardware (a "Mercedes-Benz", according to Oprah), light a fire under the hardware OEMs saying "See? This is what we expect out of you!", and also get a chance to test the waters for this kind of a device that is both tablet and PC (or neither.. some new category, perhaps).


    Add to that the usual benefits associated with other tablets of all-day battery life, instant on, easy touch-based navigation, PLUS what other tablets can't do - like being able to use a mouse (people underestimate what a HUGE advantage a mouse really is for simple things like editing text!) and running Office Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and OneNote... And really getting stuff done.


    Disclaimer: I work for and am long MSFT.
    13 Nov 2012, 06:58 AM Reply Like
  • berylrb
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    Let's see if this gets the same level of scrutiny as when Forstall et al left ... er ... were laid off from Apple. I doubt the market will deliver a 20% drop though ...
    12 Nov 2012, 08:58 PM Reply Like
  • silverscreen
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    Cue in the Forstall to MSFT rumor...
    12 Nov 2012, 09:14 PM Reply Like
  • divinecomedy
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    The only one who needs to leave is Steve Balmer. This company can still win, but it needs a new leader.
    12 Nov 2012, 09:16 PM Reply Like
  • alphaRAJU
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    I like the cross pollination idea Forstall to Microsoft.
    12 Nov 2012, 09:21 PM Reply Like
  • Chris Lau
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    Forstall to (MSFT) sounds good on paper, but look at (JCP) getting Apple's former retail guru.


    What kind of experience could he bring for Windows Phone 8 that could help WP8? Could he bring some insight about iOS deficiencies that WP8 could offer that Apple does not?
    12 Nov 2012, 09:30 PM Reply Like
  • dividend_growth
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    Win 8 and Surface are dead on arrival, as I predicted long time ago.
    12 Nov 2012, 09:43 PM Reply Like
  • raincity
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    It would appear that way. Gotta love the spin from micro's pr team with its "modest" release schedule.


    I don't think the concept of live tiles is a bad one but trying to be everything to everyone convolutes the entire system. Windows rt was a mistake imo.
    12 Nov 2012, 09:55 PM Reply Like
  • Coaly1234
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    dividend_growth: check out Win 8 sales overseas, doing very well and domestically sales are basically modest, but I agree that in the USA its a wait and see approach. I more wonder about your tag of dividend_growth, as MSFT has a good dividend especially in the tech sector. So dead on arrival more towards your comments then MSFT, right?
    13 Nov 2012, 06:11 AM Reply Like
  • ewmpsi
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    I think this could be the result of Ballmer still hanging on to his job; Steven Sinofsky was rumored to be a potential replacement for the top spot. Right now Ballmer can milk this Windows 8 and Phone 8 transition for a while without the company being ready to transition at the top spot. Steve would need to leave if he wants to be top dog. He's good and hopefully will land a top gig somewhere else. Arguably, I think he would be better than Ballmer but that's irrelevant at this point.


    The only other explanation is health, job offer, or executive decision (let go). However, nobody gives Microsoft "revolutionary" and/or "visionary" product accolades anyway so head changes shouldn't matter much to the direction of the company or the "cache" of the company reputation. His departure is relevant if it was a firing! It is relevant if he ends up at a software competitor. Only time will tell!
    12 Nov 2012, 10:05 PM Reply Like
  • Dennis Baker
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    I figured Forstall and Sinofsky left to create a startup focused on mobile operating systems.
    12 Nov 2012, 10:21 PM Reply Like
  • alphaRAJU
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    13 Nov 2012, 05:20 PM Reply Like
  • Freekizh
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    Microsoft is its own worst enemy. Seriously no one asked for windows 8 or metro. I think they got it in their minds like Vista, they can screw up and still start again. This is not true - customers get pi$$ed off, and there's a price.


    Now I have to work out how to buy a new PC laptop without windows 8...Not from HP...hmmm
    13 Nov 2012, 12:24 AM Reply Like
  • Ashraf Eassa
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    Have you actually used Windows 8? I've been using it since it went gold (MSDN subscription) and I've been loving it. That's on a non-touch screen desktop, to boot.
    13 Nov 2012, 01:39 AM Reply Like
  • Freekizh
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    Yes on RT where I do have to use that boring tile interface. Its too complicated. I even find android interface a bit fickle and complicated honestly. If you're willing to learn all the ins and outs of the interface and willing to ferret stuff out that's fine. When I switch between all the tablets I have, I always have to "think" or remember how to do stuff and change settings, except for iOS. I just don't think a OS has to be so "involved". I still run XP on my desktop, so maybe im biased to the status quo :)
    13 Nov 2012, 03:15 AM Reply Like
  • rogerppm
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    It seems whenever someone is seen as a potential next CEO of MSFT they leave the company. It's also clear that Balmer is a very competitive guy. Think there is any link? Obviously.
    13 Nov 2012, 12:30 AM Reply Like
  • Cris Chest
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    "This is shocking news. This is very surprising," said Brendan Barnicle, an analyst at Pacific Crest Securities.
    "Like a lot of people, I thought Sinofsky was in line to potentially be Ballmer's successor."
    13 Nov 2012, 04:10 AM Reply Like
  • Casey Ashton
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    Ballmer, 56, shows no sign of leaving after almost 13 years in the job, despite almost constant criticism. He has now replaced all the leaders of Microsoft's five main operating units in the past four years.
    He told employees in a memo on Monday simply that: "Steven Sinofsky has decided to leave the company."
    In a later media statement, he added that it was "imperative that we continue to drive alignment across all Microsoft teams, and have more integrated and rapid development cycles for our offerings".
    That could be interpreted as disappointment in Sinofsky's ability, or willingness, to work with other units.
    13 Nov 2012, 05:55 AM Reply Like
  • $CLU
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    One day the news will read:
    "Microsoft a small company that produces firmware for traffic light sensors reported earnings today. Revenue was up slightly while earnings came in light. Balmer, the CEO, admits sales were 'modest' but is hopeful for their new crosswalk software module coming out next year. Additionally, 6 employees of the 20 total were laid off."
    13 Nov 2012, 08:06 AM Reply Like
  • rumblefox
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    If this means that KT is now the CEO in waiting - MS is in some big trouble - watch employee defections across the board.
    13 Nov 2012, 09:41 AM Reply Like
  • b0a4pkd
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    I hope WP8 does great. I welcome many mobile systems. I also hope BB10 is a hit. This keeps prices down and competition up. It also makes for more lively discussion. I think going forward, everything will have to be "mobile" compliant. i think MSFT is doing the right thing. Having the ability of cross functionality for all your devices sounds like a plan! Goof luck MSFT.
    13 Nov 2012, 11:53 PM Reply Like
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