Breaking: The U.N. Security Council, by a vote of 10-0 with 5 abstentions, authorizes a no-fly...


Breaking: The U.N. Security Council, by a vote of 10-0 with 5 abstentions, authorizes a no-fly zone and "all necessary measures" to protect civilians in Libya. Military strikes are expected within hours. April crude pops another $1 to $102.77/barrel.

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  • The Geoffster
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    The world's policeman is running on fumes but continues to fight wars for oil without extracting a commission. Who they gonna call when the bottom falls out?
    17 Mar 2011, 07:00 PM Reply Like
  • bob adamson
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    Here are some early indications as of early March 18th of how some of the nations will participate in the enforcement of the UN Resolution. Further word on participation by the French and Arab countries should be forthcoming shortly.

     

    www.guardian.co.uk/uk/...

     

    thescotsman.scotsman.c...

     

    www.theaustralian.com....

     

    www.theglobeandmail.co.../

     

    www.guardian.co.uk/pol...
    18 Mar 2011, 12:28 AM Reply Like
  • If U Say So
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    Seems to be a day late and a dollar short. Kadaffi is entering his final battle which he's labeled a cleansing. All should be over in a few short hours. What good will a no-fly zone be after the battles are over?
    17 Mar 2011, 07:00 PM Reply Like
  • bluk1
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    A day late and a dollar short indeed, but the blame is for the Arab world.

     

    The Arab League could have easily shown some timely leadership. It could have asked specifically for UN intervention and shown a willingness to participate. The US - for a welcome change - showed appropriate restraint, restraint that it previously found hard to manifest as a self appointed policeman too willing to serve its own narrow interests". Too bad for Libya that its arabian brothers dwindled, but a decent precendent for the West not to steamroll others with their timetable and financial/ political interests.
    17 Mar 2011, 08:16 PM Reply Like
  • Bozerdog
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    just when...nevermind drill more, relax regulation.
    17 Mar 2011, 07:04 PM Reply Like
  • bob adamson
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    Here is a live feed to the ongoing Security Council meeting

     

    www.unmultimedia.org/t.../

     

    Expect French and perhaps British planes to be over Libya within six hours around daybreak on March 18th.

     

    Only Russia (but not Germany) has spoken in detail against the thrust of this resolution.
    17 Mar 2011, 07:07 PM Reply Like
  • losbronces
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    Russia could have vetoed this. They are looking for higher oil prices, nothing more.
    17 Mar 2011, 09:57 PM Reply Like
  • wyostocks
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    As Drudge calls it, this is "Hillary's War."
    17 Mar 2011, 07:22 PM Reply Like
  • dieuwer
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    Iraq, Afghanistan,...Libya
    17 Mar 2011, 07:26 PM Reply Like
  • The Geoffster
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    ...Iran...
    17 Mar 2011, 08:12 PM Reply Like
  • EMS
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    All rebels have been exterminated. Since the "West" emboldened them in the first place, and offered not a bit of weapons or support, this was akin to an inside job. The brave democracy seekers are dead, but they are free...
    17 Mar 2011, 07:56 PM Reply Like
  • tigersam
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    Just wait for few years. Rebels will attack our friends in few years after we train them.
    17 Mar 2011, 08:07 PM Reply Like
  • Thomas Smicklas
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    Wow...in the nick of time.

     

    What an embarrassment.
    17 Mar 2011, 08:46 PM Reply Like
  • Tack
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    This is pure bully-ism, absent any lofty principle. And, even the no-fly zone is a weak-kneed approach to ignoring principles in an attempt to be politically correct and support "the people."

     

    No-fly zone? What's that mean? If you can win this engagement on the ground, Mr.. Ghaddafi, it's OK, but if you want to kill people with planes, we're indignant? This is childish political nonsense.

     

    If the U.S., or any other sovereign, is committed to Ghaddafi's removal by force and wishes to engage therein, then, they should have the "cojones" to launch a full-scale military effort and dispense with all the tissue-thin obfuscations of no-fly zones. This is just a travesty.

     

    Personally, I am firmly against intervention because there is no threatened U.S. interest that is served by a no-fly zone or an invasion. In fact, U.S. interests may be threatened if Ghaddafi, the only true organized power, is removed and further civil war and/or Islamic fundamentalism takes his place. I suppose our politically-correct government cares not a whit to assess this "realpolitik" reality, as long as they can be seen as doing "good" for 'the people."

     

    Libya is an internal affair, or at worst, one to be resolved by Arab nations, themselves. If we don't like the outcome because we feel genuinely threatened, at that time, then, we can take direct military action to protect our own interests, which is the only justification for U.S. involvement.
    17 Mar 2011, 08:55 PM Reply Like
  • BetTheHouse
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    Obama: Our first female President. What a dithering wimp.
    17 Mar 2011, 09:17 PM Reply Like
  • 867046
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    Typically ignorant comment.

     

    The CINC has to consider how far to stretch the US military. It's always easy for you chicken hawks to second guess someone who is updated continuously on the body bag flights into Dover. Besides the "popup" in Japan and Libya, you need some reserves held back for a possible Iranian incursion in Bahrain, North Korean wacko action and help to Egypt and Tunisia on top of the usual contingencies. Plus some fraction of the military is on R&R as they have been rotated out of Iraq and Afghanistan. Right now it would be a good time for China initiate military action against Taiwan if they were predisposed in this direction.

     

    We are now engaged on all continents. One of the key responsibilities of being president is managing the US "brand" for good. How much intervention is good? I can imagine a lot of expensive overhead intelligence assets are aready tied up.

     

    US intervention in Libya could actually be done on the cheap and will show how agile we are. How long do you think Qaddafi and family would last if they and their lives and assets were under continuous 2nd generation predator drone and cruise missile strikes? It's easy to believe that NSA and the British equivalent know where Q-man and friends are hanging out and act on the info. The US military + allies have certainly been using this time planning while the political decisions are being made.
    17 Mar 2011, 09:38 PM Reply Like
  • wyostocks
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    "One of the key responsibilities of being president is managing the US "brand" for good."
    On this the Pres gets a resounding grade of "f".
    17 Mar 2011, 09:42 PM Reply Like
  • 867046
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    If Obama is an "F", what was Bush?
    17 Mar 2011, 09:49 PM Reply Like
  • BetTheHouse
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    Wow! Great to get the inside scoop from you. Glad you could step out of the Joint Chiefs meeting long enough to post. The papers (and the U.N. resolution) all say it's a no fly zone. But here you are saying we are going to target and kill Gaddafi. Tricky! Great strategy to let him kill rebels and civlilans for days and become stronger before moving in, by the way.
    17 Mar 2011, 09:58 PM Reply Like
  • BetTheHouse
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    Oh, and by the way. Bush was an F. And too dumb to spell F, too. Part of the problem was most people expected better from the new guy than NCAA brackets and health care "reform." Toddle along, now. They doubtless need you back at the situation room.
    17 Mar 2011, 10:01 PM Reply Like
  • Joe Morgan
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    Ah, the typical Bush comment....why Obama doesn't take responsibility of his thoughtless choices? We are already at the third year into his presidency, and he hasn't reduced the deficit...it keeps ballooning....and he is proposing more freeloading...for heaven's sake, he is the President, he has to step up now.
    17 Mar 2011, 10:04 PM Reply Like
  • 867046
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    My comments were based on the UN resolution as reported:

     

    "The United Nations Security Council voted Thursday to authorize military action, including airstrikes against Libyan tanks and heavy artillery and a no-fly zone, a risky foreign intervention aimed at averting a bloody rout of rebels by forces loyal to Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi."(NYT)

     

    It's been widely reported that a no-fly zone wouldn't be enough.

     

    If we have to be involved, it should be over as fast as possible.
    17 Mar 2011, 10:05 PM Reply Like
  • 867046
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    Gotta love the illogic of your statement.

     

    The right rails against Obama and democrats as ruining this country for generations and yet the effects of eight years of Bush jr are only supposed to last 24 months beyond GHWB 2.
    17 Mar 2011, 10:14 PM Reply Like
  • JohnBinTN
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    Fast as possible? That''s not PC or humanitarian at all. Drag it out for years, and above all, don't worry about winning - worry about limiting collateral damages.
    17 Mar 2011, 10:30 PM Reply Like
  • Tomcat101
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    Could this be the start of WW3 as a way to finally get the economy going again?
    17 Mar 2011, 09:33 PM Reply Like
  • Clint007
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    Bush and Kadaffi, they have the same mentality: war!
    Poor brain.
    17 Mar 2011, 11:55 PM Reply Like
  • Clint007
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    Who will do what:
    How British forces could enforce a no-fly zone

     

    British forces will be heavily involved in the attempt to prevent Gaddafi crushing the uprising in Libya.

     

    Military experts predict the RAF’s Typhoon fighter jets – which are not fully deployed in Afghanistan – are likely to be among the first sent out to establish and police the no-fly zone.

     

    The multi-role jets are capable of delivering the latest high-accuracy bombs, and their capabilities as fighter aircraft far exceed those of Gaddafi’s ageing Russian jets.
    RAF Typhoon F2 fighter from

     

    Military might: RAF Typhoon fighter jets are likely to be among the first sent out to establish and police the no-fly zone, experts predict

     

    The British fighters are likely to be deployed alongside French aircraft initially, although it is hoped they could be joined quickly by aircraft from at least one Arab nation, possibly Saudi Arabia or the United Arab Emirates.

     

    Foreign Secretary William Hague indicated yesterday that the no-fly zone would be policed from land bases – avoiding criticism of the recent cuts to the Royal Navy, which severely limit the capacity of the UK to carry out airborne operations from the sea.

     

    Allied forces could use French bases along the Mediterranean or the British base in Cyprus. Negotiations have also been under way about the possibility of operating some aircraft from bases in Arab countries.

     

    Italy last night said it would make its military bases available to enforce the UN resolution. Its airbase at Sigonella in Sicily is one of the closest Nato bases to Libya.

     

    U.S. navy aircraft carriers in the Mediterranean are initially expected to provide radar and logistical support.

     

    The RAF’s ageing Nimrod reconnaissance aircraft, which were recently given a temporary reprieve from the scrapyard, could also play a role in monitoring the movement of Gaddafi’s forces. British special forces will also be involved in the operation. The size of the SAS has increased rapidly in recent years and experts believe special forces units could be deployed to Libya without affecting operations elsewhere.

     

    They will be dropped behind enemy lines to identify potential targets for bombing raids. They could also be asked to carry out other covert missions designed to weaken the forces remaining loyal to the Libyan tyrant.

     

    Experts last night suggested that British warships could also be deployed to the region to carry out bombardments along the coast or to protect merchant shipping from attacks by the Libyan navy.

     

    Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...
    18 Mar 2011, 12:14 AM Reply Like
  • bob adamson
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    Clint007 -

     

    The other side of the coin is the Libyan Government military capacity.

     

    Assessing the actual composition, strength,\ and capacity of the Libyan Government armed forces is very difficult. The Globe and Mail published the following detailed article almost two weeks ago on this topic.

     

    www.theglobeandmail.co.../
    18 Mar 2011, 02:24 AM Reply Like
  • Andrew Shapiro
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    Its like bringing in the closer in the ninth inning when your team is already down by 5 runs.
    18 Mar 2011, 12:57 AM Reply Like
  • Clint007
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    One official says the U.S. intends to limit its involvement _ at least in the initial stages _ to helping protect French and other air missions by taking out Libyan air defenses.

     

    Source: "Officials: US not involved in initial Libya action" Posted: Saturday, March 19, 2011 11:45 am | Updated: 1:15 pm, Sat Mar 19, 2011. www.argus-press.com/ne...
    19 Mar 2011, 01:28 PM Reply Like
  • bob adamson
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    Here is a well considered analysis by a UK commentator on the role played to good effect by President Obama.

     

    www.guardian.co.uk/com...
    21 Mar 2011, 08:07 PM Reply Like
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