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Allied forces' attack on Libyan targets meets opposition from Arab League chief Amr Moussa, who...

Allied forces' attack on Libyan targets meets opposition from Arab League chief Amr Moussa, who says the bombardment was not what Arabs envisaged when they supported the U.N.'s no-fly zone. "We want is the protection of civilians and not the bombardment of more civilians," Moussa says.
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  • Wyatt Junker
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    Sounds like what a domestic abused housewife says when they arrest the husband.

     

    Screeching, she suddenly turns on the cops with a broken beer bottle shiv in the thigh.

     

    But, this is an old pattern here with the Arabs. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

     

    I would rather we never did, seeing as how they are the ones that need to get their own houses in order. And how intervention always gets you blamed far worse than unattached voyeurism.

     

    China laughs at all this.

     

    I wish we could laugh alongside them. Instead we have idiots in DC and their interventionists.
    20 Mar 2011, 12:33 PM Reply Like
  • User 353732
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    The choice in the ME is amongst tyrants, thugs and terrorists. There are no self sustaining mass democracy movements in the ME and there is no tradition, within living memory, of free expression and participative decision making that can be invoked.

     

    There is an inside gang and an outside gang.
    Sometimes, as in Iran the various gangs of tyrants, terrorists and thugs form(an unstable ) coalition but usually they don't. In the Gulf as well as Egypt and Libya, the terrorists and thugs are trying to replace the tyrants. Ordinary people are the real and enduring casualties.

     

    In Libya the most likely outcome now( since the West refuses to commit the extensive ground troops for the decade or so it will take to gestate lawful and participative institutions) is a Western and Southern Libya controlled by tyrants and an Northeastern Libya controlled by thugs and terrorists with brutality, reprisals and ongoing slaughter of the least protected and well armed.

     

    In a short time Libya will be turned into two failed states instead of one. No liberation, no democracy , no relief for ordinary people. Geo strategic risk will increase and Europe will be more, not less, vulnerable to both Islamic terrorism and waves of illegal immigration

     

    Of course, the oil will soon be flowing again no matter which gang is in power. After all without oil the violence is pointless. From oil comes money and from money comes power.

     

    20 Mar 2011, 12:51 PM Reply Like
  • Econdoc
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    Let the Arabs deal with Gaddafi

     

    Throw them the keys let them handle it

     

    Let's see what happens

     

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    20 Mar 2011, 01:02 PM Reply Like
  • 1980XLS
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    Econdoc,

     

    I agree.
    Given the recent runup in oil prices, they certainly can afford it.
    20 Mar 2011, 01:19 PM Reply Like
  • wyostocks
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    Didn't take long for the divisions to surface.
    I fear this has the makings of a bad outcome.
    Additionally, I have yet to see what the stated goal of this action is.
    As we have learned all to often, it is easier to start then to finish.
    20 Mar 2011, 01:08 PM Reply Like
  • Tack
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    In thinking about Islamic terrorism and their own self-directed animosities --like a pack of excited dogs turning on each other-- I am often reminded of a speech, given at the close of "The Day The Earth Stood Still," the famous cult classic from 1951.

     

    Just imagine the following, with a few substitutions and paraphrasings; U.S. (and other western nations) in place of "other planets" and Islamic terrorist-sponsoring regimes in place of "Earth." Instead of incessant meddling in the affairs of others, this is the speech a U.S. President should give:

     

    ".... You will forgive me if I speak bluntly. The universe grows smaller every day, and the threat of aggression by any group, anywhere, can no longer be tolerated. There must be security for all, or no one is secure. Now, this does not mean giving up any freedom, except the freedom to act irresponsibly. Your ancestors knew this when they made laws to govern themselves and hired policemen to enforce them. We, of the other planets, have long accepted this principle. We have an organization for the mutual protection of all planets and for the complete elimination of aggression. The test of any such higher authority is, of course, the police force that supports it. For our policemen, we created a race of robots. Their function is to patrol the planets in spaceships like this one and preserve the peace. In matters of aggression, we have given them absolute power over us. This power cannot be revoked. At the first sign of violence, they act automatically against the aggressor. The penalty for provoking their action is too terrible to risk. The result is, we live in peace, without arms or armies, secure in the knowledge that we are free from aggression and war. Free to pursue more... profitable enterprises. Now, we do not pretend to have achieved perfection, but we do have a system, and it works. I came here to give you these facts. It is no concern of ours how you run your own planet, but if you threaten to extend your violence, this Earth of yours will be reduced to a burned-out cinder. Your choice is simple: join us and live in peace, or pursue your present course and face obliteration. We shall be waiting for your answer. The decision rests with you."
    20 Mar 2011, 01:16 PM Reply Like
  • frankw123
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    I am an American Thru and Thru........Ex Marine, Grew up in Chicago Public school systems when There was Discipline handed out when we disobeyed.............the USA is Turning Wimpy and will NOT be a Great super power within the next 10 years if we Don't start Teaching and Handing out Discipline once again..........I have Never had To even Spank any of my 4 kids, even Though My Mom used the Belt Very Often.........The way our government is Run and the Way They THIEVE from the American Public (and get away with a slap on the wrist) is Absolutely Pathetic........Obama Needs To GO, (I admit I voted wrong) He is and Wll be a Problem as Long as he is in Office........As weird as This sounds, I Honestly believe Now we would have had a Better chance for America if John Mc Cain would have been elected......Yes, he is rough around the edges, But Dicscipline is what I truly believe is what he would have given The USA..........
    20 Mar 2011, 01:24 PM Reply Like
  • Wyatt Junker
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    Hillary's war, or, if you like, Obama's Girls-Gone-Wild War will get interesting once the air strikes stop.

     

    What then?

     

    Once the fireworks stop, will there be anything left to back it up?

     

    Or will the UN send the blue helmets in? That's a joke.

     

    This is a classic Billy Jethro Clinton war. Lob some tomahawks. Blow up some aspirin factories. Kill a few foreigners. Then go back to golfing at Pismo.

     

    Ghaddafi knows this. He will wait it out.

     

    And then again I ask; what then?
    20 Mar 2011, 03:23 PM Reply Like
  • bob adamson
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    The Arab view is more varied and nuanced than some comments suggest. Note the importance of the distinction between removing Qaddafi from office (seen as illegitimate for foreigners to do) and preventing Qaddafi using his military to terrorize Libyans (seen more generally as appropriate).. See the following.

     

    www.guardian.co.uk/wor...

     

    english.aljazeera.net/...

     

    Interestingly, there seems to be general consensus within the Arab world and abroad that it is up to the Libyan people to remove Qaddafi if they so want and that they should not be prevented from doing so by state terror by the current Libyan government. What is so wrong with that?
    20 Mar 2011, 06:52 PM Reply Like
  • Essence
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    It takes one whole day for the Arabs to turn on us? Nice - I believe the saying is that with friends like these, who needs enemies.

     

    Leave the Arabs to sort out their own Arab messes - the US can't win this one. The UN can never win any.
    20 Mar 2011, 11:14 PM Reply Like
  • tigersam
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    Never ask for Military. If you ask it you have ot live by the consequences.
    21 Mar 2011, 07:09 AM Reply Like
  • tigersam
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    As far as I am concern these guys are fitting last 1000 years each other. Nothing will stop for next 1000 years.
    21 Mar 2011, 07:10 AM Reply Like
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