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The U.S. patent office rules an Apple (AAPL) patent used in its pinch-to-zoom implementation...

The U.S. patent office rules an Apple (AAPL) patent used in its pinch-to-zoom implementation shouldn't have been granted, boosting Samsung (SSNLF.PK) in its attempt to overturn a $1.05B U.S. jury verdict against it in its global IP war with Apple. The patent was one of six that Samsung was ruled to have breached in the companies' summer trial and is the second of those six to have been preliminarily struck down.
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  • dmarilley
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    Obama after Cook, watch out.
    20 Dec 2012, 02:56 AM Reply Like
  • berylrb
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    That's just dumb!
    20 Dec 2012, 10:41 AM Reply Like
  • sduris
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    Why? It's clear Obama is anti-business. Alternatively, Obama has tried to model himself after SJ and it really isn't working.
    21 Dec 2012, 03:53 AM Reply Like
  • gensearch2
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    Obama is so anti-business corporate profits are at pre-recession levels and for the first time in over 6 decades the US is a net exporter of petroleum products.

     

    Explain to me how this illustrates anti-business

     

    "U.S. corporate taxes that were actually paid (the effective rate) fell to a 40 year low of 12.1 percent in fiscal year 2011, despite corporate profits rebounding to their pre-Great Recession heights. The U.S. both taxes its corporations less and raises less in revenue from corporate taxes than its foreign competitors: ..."

     

    http://bit.ly/Tf9ftP
    23 Dec 2012, 09:02 AM Reply Like
  • chopchop0
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    Ouch....

     

    “It’s a strike against Apple, but it is far from the whole ballgame,” said Mark A. Lemley, a Stanford Law School professor.

     

    Apple is likely to challenge the patent office’s action this week, as it did the October decision.

     

    If the patent office’s rejections hold up after Apple makes its appeals, the court could grant Samsung’s motion for a new trial. It is more likely, however, that the damages award will be considerably reduced, said James Bessen, a patent expert at the Berkman Center for Internet and Society at Harvard University.
    20 Dec 2012, 06:18 AM Reply Like
  • gensearch2
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    The USPTO hasn't made any ruling on the individual claims within the patent. Even if the overall ruling is upheld it's likely that some or most of the claims will survive.

     

    Which is why on a "preliminary ruling" the patent is still enforceable. This is like the DOMA court cases; none of them mean anything until it gets to the final decision or someone throws in the towel. And no one is throwing in the towel. Both Samsung and Apple will appeal all decisions until the final bell is rung.

     

    Apple doesn't care about the damages and neither does Samsung. It's pocket change for each of them.

     

    Samsung's anti trust violations in the EU are far more interesting and with Samsung dropping their suits against Apple in the EU it's an indication that they're trying to placate the EU before they make their decision. Or you could believe that BS Samsung claims that they're doing it for altruistic reasons.
    23 Dec 2012, 09:15 AM Reply Like
  • The Last Boomer
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    This whole story with Samsung and this patent marks Apple's downfall from a bold innovator to a mere patent troll. What a sad transformation.
    20 Dec 2012, 06:55 AM Reply Like
  • Noreika
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    That's what it's looking like Boomer. Suddenly I don't feel too bad holding VRNG right now..
    20 Dec 2012, 07:09 AM Reply Like
  • gensearch2
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    Patent trolls don't make product; they solely to collect royalties and since they never make a product they never pay any royalties to anyone else. Last I checked Apple makes a few things.
    20 Dec 2012, 07:47 AM Reply Like
  • Jack Baker
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    Patent troll? Really? We'll see who has bigger market share in a few years. Samsung and android got out of the gate early with cheap phones sold to people with no money who don't search or buy things on mobile devices. AAPL has the vast majority of affluent smart phone users. Now that one can get an AAPL phone for free with a contract, well, it will be a tough grind for Samsung from here.

     

    And, let's not forget that intellectual property theft is a national past-time in most Asian cultures; especially in China.
    20 Dec 2012, 09:51 AM Reply Like
  • StingRay63
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    Jack Baker, why does Apple use Samsung parts to build their iphone and other products? Oh, And don't forget that Samsung has more patents than Apple will ever have. Samsung doesn't need Apple, it's the other way around. Apple is the patent troll. LOL

     

    Stingray63
    23 Dec 2012, 04:54 AM Reply Like
  • chopchop0
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    Correct. Apple has tried for the past year+ to move away from Samsung as a supplier. As they noticed moving away from Google maps, it's MUCH more difficult to go their own as they had imagined
    23 Dec 2012, 08:27 AM Reply Like
  • gensearch2
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    Here's an interesting Samsung innovation.

     

    http://tnw.co/UZm0qI
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    23 Dec 2012, 08:48 AM Reply Like
  • gensearch2
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    Actually, Apple has done pretty well in the last year moving away from Samsung. There are hardly any Samsung parts anymore. There have been rumors, like you've spread, that Samsung has been cutting Apple off, but they always pan out as fabrications.

     

    This Samsung exec can't live without Apple.

     

    http://bit.ly/RcKyOP
    23 Dec 2012, 08:54 AM Reply Like
  • chopchop0
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    At least they are trying to fix the problem instead of telling us "you aren't holding it right" LOL
    23 Dec 2012, 08:54 AM Reply Like
  • gensearch2
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    I don't expect Apple will be applying for any patents on refrigerators any times soon. Samsung can run with those.
    23 Dec 2012, 08:56 AM Reply Like
  • gensearch2
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    I wonder how long Galaxy owners go before they know they own a brick?
    23 Dec 2012, 08:58 AM Reply Like
  • gensearch2
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    Samsung hasn't admited there is a problem. There certainly isn't any indication that they're fixing the problem. They're replacing the board with the same bad design. For all the consumer knows all Samsung did was a board "reset" and sent it back. Fully expect their "fix" to become another brick in a few months. Sweet.

     

    The antennagate was another overblown flaw. Did you ever see how you had to hold the iPhone to get the problem. You had to grab your phone in a death grip. And even at that, Apple would give you a free case if you didn't already have one.

     

    Or are you talking about the purple haze that exists on Samsung phones as well. An Apple problem that turned out to be the same problem every camera has ... it's called "flare".

     

    That could explain why there's no Android web traffic. All bricks. But they're happy with their bricks.
    23 Dec 2012, 10:23 AM Reply Like
  • Deja Vu
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    Alas, poor Steve, where be your gibes now?

     

    These growing feathers plucked from Apple's wing, will make it fly an ordinary pitch,. Who else would soar above the view of men. And keep us all in servile fearfulness.

     

    The bard had it right...
    20 Dec 2012, 08:32 AM Reply Like
  • pirota
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    Apple invented, computers, phones and everything else, so there is no use of having patent system ...
    20 Dec 2012, 09:47 AM Reply Like
  • petten
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    80:20 rule: 80% of the patents ever granted are silly, worthless waste of time. Period!
    20 Dec 2012, 01:23 PM Reply Like
  • gensearch2
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    It depends on your point of view.
    23 Dec 2012, 08:59 AM Reply Like
  • rrosey2
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    Lawsuits are regressive, regardless of validity.

     

    Under present practice, the only winners are lawyers and judges.

     

    If Apple continues its innovation, the copycats can't keep up.
    20 Dec 2012, 03:27 PM Reply Like
  • gensearch2
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    You think that corporations are so stupid that they would litigate when the only winners are lawyers and judges?

     

    What do you know about the litigation systems in Japan, South Korea or Germany?
    23 Dec 2012, 10:59 AM Reply Like
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