Shares of Herbalife (HLF -19.9%) get slammed again today on heavy volume as Bill Ackman's...

Shares of Herbalife (HLF -19.9%) get slammed again today on heavy volume as Bill Ackman's Pershing Square continues its assault on the company, underlining its massive short position and encapsulating yesterdays meeting in presentation format on its website: (Facts About Herbalife)

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  • Deja Vu
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    The Ackman presentation was a work of art. I salute the anonymous backroom MBA who put it together. Everyone should read it, just to see how to put together a presentation on a short thesis. The information was very effectively presented by the use of graphics and the whole thing was a compelling read and I found it to be extremely convincing.
    21 Dec 2012, 05:43 PM Reply Like
  • Snoopy1
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    Where can one read the HLF presentation?
    22 Dec 2012, 12:24 AM Reply Like
  • mike s
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    Here's a link to the slides..

    22 Dec 2012, 11:25 AM Reply Like
  • limitless
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    We need more like Mr. Ackman. He should be commended for his transparency. Thanks to Bill for putting up the webcast and to Seekingalpha for bring it to our attention. This is great stuff.
    23 Dec 2012, 03:57 AM Reply Like
  • Matt Jonza
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    this ackman guy is going to make me rich! can't wait for the Feb. 18th earnings report... can you say 16th straight earnings beat?
    23 Dec 2012, 04:01 AM Reply Like
  • 1980XLS-2.0
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    Bankster like gains, shorting it since it resumed trading on Wed.


    Merry X-Mas Bill.
    23 Dec 2012, 04:05 AM Reply Like
  • Sennin
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    I agree 100%. Excellent point!
    23 Dec 2012, 04:11 AM Reply Like
  • 1980XLS-2.0
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    Mr Ackman, I love you.


    Dec Puts.


    23 Dec 2012, 04:19 AM Reply Like
  • DougRk
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    I just spent an hour going through the whole presentation. Utterly damning. HLF is a complete fraud.
    23 Dec 2012, 10:15 AM Reply Like
  • Jeff Spiller
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    ...and I bet HLF is a template for almost every other retail MLM operation.
    23 Dec 2012, 01:16 PM Reply Like
  • DougRk
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    Indeed Jeff. Although they can begin as legitimate operation, as HLF may have. But in the end, as the business model necessarily breaks down, fraud must take place for survival. There is no stasis possible in a MLM operation, and that's the linchpin.
    23 Dec 2012, 01:27 PM Reply Like
  • Be Here Now
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    Extraordinary public service by Bill Ackman.
    23 Dec 2012, 03:37 PM Reply Like
  • yumy87
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    doubt it. no proof of fraud... but it makes ackman a lot on his short. bottoming out soon...
    24 Dec 2012, 02:14 AM Reply Like
  • DougRk
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    What do you define as fraud? HLF's is a known model that can't succeed. The revenue generated from internal sales is far higher than their disclosures let on, and the odds of ever reaching a higher MLM level are vastly lower than they let on. There is deception. To argue as some have that the pool of future underlings is large enough to keep going for decades doesn't negate the deception.
    24 Dec 2012, 01:57 PM Reply Like
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