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The Verge joins Digitimes in reporting a Nokia (NOK) Windows RT tablet is in the works. The...

The Verge joins Digitimes in reporting a Nokia (NOK) Windows RT tablet is in the works. The gadget site, which seems to have a source or two at Microsoft (MSFT), reports the tablet will have a 10.1" display (similar to Surface), mobile connectivity (AT&T will sell it), and interestingly, a battery-equipped keyboard cover that "envelops it like a book." Nokia is said to plan a small initial run, and to be thinking of making a Windows 8 Pro device later.
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  • DeepValueLover
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    I'm afraid this is too little, too late.

     

    First mover advantage is very important.

     

    If Apple stops producing the iPad then this tablet may be an O.K. seller.

     

    Apple doesn't have any plans to stop production of the iPad.
    24 Dec 2012, 01:55 PM Reply Like
  • mpow
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    DVL, this is like saying there was no chance for any other car companies if only Ford had stopped producing Model Ts when the road was full of them. The world's highway evolves, moves fast, technological opportunity everywhere, everyone has to stay on their toes, including Apple.
    24 Dec 2012, 03:36 PM Reply Like
  • runner1
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    Another positive report. Lets just say Nokia is in it to win it.
    As the 920 gains acceptance In China it will form brand loyalty which will create a ready market if and when Nokia decides to widen distribution of a tablet
    24 Dec 2012, 01:57 PM Reply Like
  • ssnlive
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    iPad design is dated. Dead tiles, No second window, No USB, No HDMI out and people are feeling the difference now.
    24 Dec 2012, 02:12 PM Reply Like
  • berylrb
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    Second window? Five-finger slide to multiple active windows!
    24 Dec 2012, 02:46 PM Reply Like
  • Seppo Sahrakorpi
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    Even if the numbers are initially small this is also about enhancing the brand in consumers minds beyond just mobile phones. Opening doors for a variety of gadgets in the future.

     

    It is nice to see that Nokia is certainly not acting like a company in its death thrones...
    24 Dec 2012, 02:01 PM Reply Like
  • berylrb
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    I agree!
    24 Dec 2012, 02:46 PM Reply Like
  • oneinfiniteloop
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    If they are launching it with lets say LTE support through AT&T then it is very likely that you will see the cost subsidized (strategy similar to 920) - which should result in positive sales - just a hunch. I would personally like to buy a Nokia Tablet without LTE support though (I don't want to pay ongoing AT&T tax). Lets hope they come out with both version. I also hope that they will come out with a Windows Pro version.
    25 Dec 2012, 11:03 PM Reply Like
  • Sal Marvasti
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    Surface is by far the most impressive tablet. I say this after having a Ipad 3 and a cheap andriod.
    It just feels quality and innovation (two windows at one). The only let down which prevents me from selling my ipad 3, APPS. I need Oovoo and Vibre, neither of which are currently planned for Windows RT. Microsoft get your app begging in order before 2013 :) Otherwise I might have to sell the Surface, and cuddle the Apple. Being limited to video and voice via Skype is not good.
    24 Dec 2012, 04:32 PM Reply Like
  • pureview8
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    I recently went to a free holiday concert. Of the people who took pictures and recorded videos, those who used tablets outnumbered those who used phones and traditional cameras. It appears tablets have become the preferred photographic device at group gatherings.

     

    Put a Pureview camera on this tablet, and decorate it with an offline Nokia navigation app. It will become a very interesting device.
    24 Dec 2012, 07:03 PM Reply Like
  • oneinfiniteloop
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    I think in the Tablet form factor they will also be able to support better zooming capability.
    25 Dec 2012, 11:05 PM Reply Like
  • gwenace
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    The pricing of this tablet would be one of its keys to success.
    24 Dec 2012, 09:32 PM Reply Like
  • daniel_stock
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    Nokia should wait for the season to end and see how the microsoft tablet is selling, before it commits any more r&d and money to this project, sounds like the microsoft tablet isnt even wanted.
    24 Dec 2012, 09:46 PM Reply Like
  • techy46
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    A 10" phablet with some cool hardware and software features like good camera, LTE and NFC would be great if they can keep the price down; $400-500. As for Windows 8 Pro, I think a 7" WP8 phablet would be a better device for travel including camera, reader, maps, LTE and Wifi. The mobile wars are going to bring the prices of this stuff down to the $300-400 that real notebooks cost now. GLW is looking to cash in on the Gorilla demand.
    24 Dec 2012, 09:49 PM Reply Like
  • joalnadi
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    There are so many negative view of the Surface tablet and NON of those who say it's bad own one or even tried one at the first place! I truly invite you to challenge yourself and go to Microsoft Store and try it out. You only have to see it, touch it and use it to understand the value and the technology behind it instead of yapping at WP8 and Windows 8 and Windows RT. I believe MSFT didn't want to hurt it's customers by offering the tablet through many different channels. 2013 is Microsoft, Nokia, Dell and HP year and I bet that Samsung will jump on the bandwagon too. I still remember when I showed off my iPhone 3G to few people in 2007, most people didn't know what the heck was that phone! It's the same happening with WP8 and tablets... Give it a year and see. I hope we still be here to remind each other. Also, I'm not saying that AAPL will be out of the market, but AAPL market share will be shaken and I TRULY believe that AAPL will be irrelevant in 2017 as it was in 2000. By 2020 no one will even know who was Steven Jobs except me and you guys if we get to live! I'm long MSFT and NOK. and remember guys, today long means at most 5 years! Who knows who come on top in the next 5 years! Google started from a basement to surpass some oil companies. I don't take anything for granted no more. God Bless & Happy Holidays.
    24 Dec 2012, 11:46 PM Reply Like
  • wladimir82
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    In my opinion it will be very, very hard for Nokia to succeed here.

     

    1. They are late to the party, what means they can try to learn from competition but they need to invent a complete new product line what they havent done before. New components, new production processes, new sales efforts, whatsoever... all this is doable but in a market where others are in already and ship steadily millions of devices... at least not easy.
    2. Nokia jumps from a mobile phone to a PC. Not the first time they are doing it but when entering tablets they will not have the priviliged position for MS like they have with smartphones. What will make it harder for them. And in addition MS is in the same market. They might retreat if Surface fails but that will be no good sign for all other Win8 tablet offerings. In case Surface will be a great success and MS makes a hell lot of money they will not do it. Either way, tough position for Nokia.
    3. The market moves to smaller tablets. At least from what we hear over the last weeks the 10 inch tablets losing popularity. What could mean that Nokia simply will not offer what consumers look for. OR Nokia is able to ship sth very different at a very good price tag. But as with the 920 good stuff has its price and as NOK does not have money to subsidize tablet sales they simply cant do that.
    4. Here maps aka Nokia Maps is going broader... Already available on iPad/iPhone (admittedly relatively crappy) and they will not stop. All signs tell us they are willing to go after broadest possible reach. What means some maps application will not make that much of a difference. And for anyone who has seen the apps on WP8... they are by far not perfect nor great.
    To sum it up: Nokia needs to be able to offer something so distinct different in terms of haptic, features, whatsoever and I simply doubt that this is possible in the currently so cramped tablet market. Again, not saying they are not able to but same with phones, it is very, very hard to come up with sth what is seen as the next big thing. The Lumia 920 isn't (a good phone though) and the Nokia tablet most likely won't be either. Lets see.
    25 Dec 2012, 05:36 AM Reply Like
  • mr wonder
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    @ wladimir82
    1. Late to the party doesnt mean you cant have fun. It is not all about creating new inventions. It is also offering a coherent product family. The Lumia family is unique because its extraordinary design characteristics, build quality, featureset and craftmanship.
    eristics. Adding a Lumia tablet would appeal to many Lumia users.
    2. Privileged in what way? Nokia is still being paid for every copy of their Nokia Drive and other mapping apps (a.o. Bing Maps) within W8 as well as WP8.
    25 Dec 2012, 11:49 AM Reply Like
  • riwm45
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    NOKIA is recognized worldwide to posses the number 1 R&D team capable of delivering game changer products that they just recently proved the world. The real question really here is who will be the dominant ecosystem in the market by 2013. I will not count Msft & Nokia out on this battle. Windows have registered licensed users of over 1.3 billion worldwide with huge numbers already upgrading to W8...And while the numbers of developers apps have greatly improved in the past 2 months for W8 & Wp8 in significant numbers, it is likely highly that Nokia will come close to this highly competitive market by 2013.

     

    What's also best about all of the tablet issue was the fact that NOKIA already knows what is needed to compete. Keeping in mind that Elop mentioned a couple of times on his interviews that they have a lot of gems to spin out to enhance & produce great products...Going into the tablet by February can only translate they are ready. I can only speculate that this brilliant brains working in Nokia will produce nothing but the best...

     

    I can also only but see that a true game changer product features is a must not an option to enter in this Arena of tablets.
    25 Dec 2012, 03:42 PM Reply Like
  • wladimir82
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    to 1. yes, I agree... All I say is that it will be hard.

     

    to 2. Privileged in so far that they are seen as the preferred phone manufacturer for MS when it comes to phones. Nokia has early access to plans, dev builds and can influence (to some extend) the roadmap.
    As far as I know the switch to rebrand Nokia Maps services to here is part of a more independent approach. Meaning the money paid by Nokia will be less and less and here needs to find new cash cows next to map deals with navigation system providers (thats where most of their money comes from so far).
    26 Dec 2012, 06:53 AM Reply Like
  • wladimir82
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    Hmmm... but Nokia hasnt delivered good stuff for years. Now with the 2nd wave of Lumias that might be different but the 820 and even the 620 is far from being a game changer. How good the 920 will sell and dis sell has to be seen. But it is a different league when u ship 3 mio devices or 10 times as much.
    I also see your Windows argument. On the other hand 100s of millions of users did not stop buying Android or iOS devices over the last years. Means they are already (to a certain degree) locked into one ecosystem but even more importantly they have seen that the argument is a weak one as Android and iOS do work pretty well with whatever OS. Of course there will be devs developing for Windows RT and maybe WP. But to reach a certain level of quality is different. WP alone affords that you put thinking in your UX before you can ship a great product.
    Lets see, everyone (me included) can speculate endlessly and I wish Nokia to survive and succeed. But their position in these markets is tough without question.
    26 Dec 2012, 07:02 AM Reply Like
  • ewmpsi
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    A few things:

     

    1) This is not something they just came up with, they had planned this back even before the 920 launched. It was put on the backburner due to MS decision to go forward with its own device. Remember Nokia has a seat at the table when MS brainstorms (if they only had a brain da-da....da-da-da-da-da).

     

    2) I suspect this will also get a Verizon deal, not an ATT exclusive and thus the (surface looking...RT running) devices seen on lockdown at some Verizon’s stores are looking like they have a purpose beyond just "demo" of Surface RT compared to Windows Phone 8.

     

    3) I would have rather seen a Windows 8 tablet; I think it ties in better to the Windows Phone 8 story (shared ecosystems). However, that would have the Nokia tablet early 2013 launch butting heads with MS Surface Pro launch so I guess while the spotlight for Windows 8 is stolen by the Surface Pro it opens a window for Nokia to have the RT spot light (small and dim as it may be) all to themselves.

     

    4) If they put the quality into the tablet they put into the Lumia, it will sell and if it sells it can actually drive developers to RT. It gives Nokia another product in the pipeline and it gives some much needed credibility to MS and its RT aspirations. If Nokia is trying their hands at RT look for others to join the raid party.
    25 Dec 2012, 10:43 PM Reply Like
  • CashMan75
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    nokia can make a more affordable tablet and sell it in places apple cant, the world is big place, it just needs to be a pofitable product that sells ok
    26 Dec 2012, 02:16 AM Reply Like
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