The FAA orders all U.S. airlines to ground their 787 Dreamliners (BA), CNBC reports amid...


The FAA orders all U.S. airlines to ground their 787 Dreamliners (BA), CNBC reports amid continuing safety developments. The agency is reacting to a second incident regarding failure of the plane's lithium ion batteries, which it says could spark fires if the issue isn't corrected. Updated 6:15 p.m.: Boeing now -1.8% AH. (details; FAA statement; previously)

From other sites
Comments (7)
  • davidbdc
    , contributor
    Comments (3194) | Send Message
     
    Still think it was a good idea to outsource all the components?

     

    Perhaps paying a buck or two more in the USA might have led to the plane being finished on time...... and actually working well???

     

    Where are the geniuses now? Where are the executives that mapped out building all those different parts of the planes in all those "cheap" countries? They collected their bonuses for PHANTOM savings years ago. Then they didn't execute well..... and now may have a LEMON on their hands.

     

    Sometimes you get what you pay for......
    16 Jan 2013, 06:21 PM Reply Like
  • 1980XLS-2.0
    , contributor
    Comments (528) | Send Message
     
    You can;t actually expect BA to even make all their own batteries in house ,do you?

     

    That said, it is a bit too early to draw conclusions yet, IMO.

     

    Stay tuned, and we shall see.
    17 Jan 2013, 04:47 AM Reply Like
  • thomas85225
    , contributor
    Comments (552) | Send Message
     
    The 787 is not the first program to be outsource to other aerospace company and supplier
    the KC-135A in 1957, 747 in 1966, 757 &767 in 1972, 737NC in 2005, 777 in 1991
    But workmenship at Everett is the problems for the last 4 years on 787
    Missing O-ring and lock wire on the engine fuel lines
    APU incorrectly hookup, main electrial pannel that was miss wire

     

    The other problems with Boeing in Everett and Renton is that Boeing as history of workmanship problem

     

    http://bit.ly/U2bSzi

     

    The FAA fine Boeing one Millions on the 777 oxygen’s system that were installed incorrectly
    In 1990 the FAA fine Boeing 26.2 millions for not build the 757 per drawing

     

    http://bit.ly/13Baab8

     

    In the last four years Boeing has delivery 50 787 that been full workmanship problems

     

    All this money, bonus and stock, Boeing could hire a Quality Teams to inspected the aircrafts before its leave the factory and before its made the News
    The airlines may wanted to buy The Extend Warrantee Plan with Road Side assistance
    16 Jan 2013, 07:12 PM Reply Like
  • SoldHigh
    , contributor
    Comments (991) | Send Message
     
    Meanwhile their Union Labor thinks Labor deserves MORE $$$
    16 Jan 2013, 08:35 PM Reply Like
  • StudeRanch
    , contributor
    Comments (18) | Send Message
     
    I haven't heard if the problem planes in question came from Everett or the south carolina plant. It would be interesting to see if they all came from one place. South Carolina would be a problem of educating the ones responsible but if it is all from Everett, then there is no excuse for sloppy workmanship. They are supposed to be a veteran workforce & be capable.

     

    Outsourcing is common especially in todays enviroment. The Chinese get a piece of the action so they will buy the product, just like everyone else in the world today. It's not limited to aircraft either. The automotive industry has become linked world wide. Look at what happened to Toyota & Honda after the disasters & how their production suffered in all their plants.

     

    I have suggested in the past & repeat now that it would be very wise for Boeing to get with Tesla & see how they have developed systems to monitor the lithium batteries.
    17 Jan 2013, 04:42 AM Reply Like
  • jhooper
    , contributor
    Comments (8058) | Send Message
     
    Why didn't the FAA just tell everyone that this was going to happen, and then provide them with the solutions that have prevented this? Or better yet, why didn't the FAA build a competing plane that would cost less and be even safer?
    17 Jan 2013, 04:46 AM Reply Like
  • thomas85225
    , contributor
    Comments (552) | Send Message
     
    Boeing and the FAA has know about the Lithium-ion battery since 2007
    wasn't enough to prevent a lithium-ion battery from lighting off in a Cessna Citation CJ4 last year
    Cessna quickly withdrew the batteries from the Citations and the FAA issued an emergency AD. Cessna says it's still committed to Li-ion, but declines to offer details.

     

    http://bit.ly/VHrg2w

     

    DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, Federal Aviation Administration, 14 CFR Part 25
    [Docket No. NM375 Special Conditions No. 25-07-10-SC]

     

    http://bit.ly/VKZqoj

     

    http://bit.ly/VHrg2w

     

    What inside a Lithium-ion battery ?

     

    http://bit.ly/V3LwMm

     

    The other problems with Boeing in Everett and Renton is that Boeing as long history of workmanship problem see the Seattle times history file
    http://bit.ly/U2bSzi

     

    The FAA fine Boeing one Millions on the 777 oxygen’s system that were installed incorrectly In 1990 the FAA fine Boeing 26.2 millions for not build the 757 per drawing

     

    http://bit.ly/13Baab8

     

    Installing engines fuel lines, Wiggins fuel line connectors , installing o-ring, tightening fuels connectors and lock wire hooking up power panels and APU is aircraft 101 that been around since the 707 dating back to 1958 or the Wright brother of 1903
    At the start of the 787 program Boeing said its would build one 787 ever three day
    Boeing should have delivery 300 to 400 to date
    The first 40 aircraft cost Boeing 32 Billion and 70 of the first 70 had to rework
    40 787 had to be park due to the lost of configuration
    17 Jan 2013, 05:24 PM Reply Like
DJIA (DIA) S&P 500 (SPY)
ETF Hub
ETF Screener: Search and filter by asset class, strategy, theme, performance, yield, and much more
ETF Performance: View ETF performance across key asset classes and investing themes
ETF Investing Guide: Learn how to build and manage a well-diversified, low cost ETF portfolio
ETF Selector: An explanation of how to select and use ETFs