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Maybe it will be the U.K., not Greece exiting the EU. In a move dubbed "the gamble," David...

Maybe it will be the U.K., not Greece exiting the EU. In a move dubbed "the gamble," David Cameron will offer citizens a referendum on the U.K.'s EU membership if his government is reelected in 2015. Designed to get better terms from Berlin and Paris, the policy might just have the effect of prompting other governments to do the same. European officials probably don't want citizens voting on this sort of thing.
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  • Macro Investor
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    Good for the UK!
    22 Jan 2013, 07:36 PM Reply Like
  • Vetopower
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    The Brits are Europeans?

     

    I don't think so.
    22 Jan 2013, 07:49 PM Reply Like
  • Venerability
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    Does whoever wrote this comment understand that the EU is not and has never been the issue?

     

    It's the Eurozone - the 17 countries which use the Euro, up from the original 12 - that has been the concern.

     

    The UK has never been in the Eurozone.

     

    The EU, the European Union, has 27 members, including the UK.
    22 Jan 2013, 11:50 PM Reply Like
  • Tack
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    More nonsense. Even throughout the depths of the recent crisis voters in Greece and Germany, at opposite ends of the tether, both polled majorities for remaining in the EU and with the euro.

     

    The UK isn't leaving the EU, and they never were members of the Eurozone.
    23 Jan 2013, 01:17 AM Reply Like
  • tomybhoy
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    If you believe polls conducted in Europe then you are naive, the European project is being forced through by elites with Countries that vote against in referendums being made to hold second referendum and threatened with financial armageddon if they do not vote the correct way, sooner or later one of these Countries are going to cry enough and the house of cards will come tumbling down.
    The people never wanted this type of integration and for most it has only brought higher inflation and higher unemployment.
    23 Jan 2013, 02:36 AM Reply Like
  • credit_man
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    UK is using the positive aspects of EU(free market between members) and is trying to escape from the negatives(fiscal convergence,political unity,southern countries support).
    UK economy won't survive a EU exit IF it means they wont be able to acces the "marche unique" anymore(you can count on Germany to force this).
    Ask the scottish and the irish(both sides) what they think about Europe......(may be they will ask to stay in Europe and exit the UK...)
    23 Jan 2013, 04:19 AM Reply Like
  • tomybhoy
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    Ireland is not part of the UK, ask people in Ireland what the Euro has given them and most will say inflation and bank debts that had nothing to do with them, thats the sad reality.
    23 Jan 2013, 08:09 AM Reply Like
  • credit_man
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    @tomybhoy
    !!!! wrong..North Ireland is part of the UK...
    there is an independant Republic of Ireland eurozone member (who has been able to catch back within 10 years thanks to EURO....and a very attractive fiscal policy for foreign companies..ask google,apple,amazon where they book their profit...) AND there is North Ireland part of the UK....
    dont repeat what you read,ask locals and you will realize that while EURO bashing is a popular activity many small countries have benefited from EURO and dont want to exit at all...(even greeks don't want to).
    23 Jan 2013, 09:02 AM Reply Like
  • tomybhoy
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    Yes but where did you say N Ireland?
    You said Ireland which is the republic and is not part of the UK.
    You hardly need to explain to an Irish poster as I am about Ireland, N Ireland and the UK but carry on if it makes you happy.
    I would advise you not to believe the propaganda you read about ordinary citizens being happy about what has happened in Ireland since the introduction of the Euro.
    23 Jan 2013, 09:31 AM Reply Like
  • Tack
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    People haven't seemed to be happy about one thing or another in the "Irelands" for a few hundred years, it seems. :-)
    23 Jan 2013, 09:48 AM Reply Like
  • credit_man
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    ??
    read my first post again please...i didn't speak about Ireland but about 'irish" (people) (and i precised "both sides")......

     

    i dont read anything but i live in Europe (half of my time in Ireland the republic...) and i repeat that away from what less informed people are saying(especially in the US) portuguese,spanish,iri... and part of germans and dutch crowds are against the idea of exiting EU or eurozone while criticising the European leaders..
    23 Jan 2013, 10:41 AM Reply Like
  • tomybhoy
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    And why would we be happy, all the headway we made as a nation was thrown out the window by incompetent politicians and regulators.

     

    The introduction of the euro brought us inflation with sky high house prices and politicians telling people if they didnt buy now they would never be able to buy, consequently people bought and are now suffering the consequences.
    We are a proud nation but are now left in a position where politicians cannot be trusted and our so called partners in Europe have stuck the boot in at every opportunity, I am sure the Portugese, Greeks and Spanish would echo those thoughts.
    23 Jan 2013, 09:58 AM Reply Like
  • tomybhoy
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    Maybe you should start reading so, I live in the Republic and can tell you that people are fed up with the Eurozone and Politicians in general.
    The only positive thing that happened ordinary people in the Eurozone was being able to cross borders and use the same currency, other than that it is negative all the way and this will at some stage also hurt the elites who put people in this position.
    The UK was the Country that did most for Ireland when the crisis hit which has resulted in a huge change in perception about the continued participation in the eurozone.
    You may remember the Lisbon and Nice referendums in Ireland if indeed you spend time over here, that should tell you a lot about Ireland and the EU.
    23 Jan 2013, 11:14 AM Reply Like
  • credit_man
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    fair enough.dont want to spend all night on that...we obviously dont live in same "universe".i hear eurosceptics but i also hear plenty of euro supporters(ordinary people) that won't agree to leave EU and when time will come it will be interesting to see what the English decide if they are asked to vote....
    the way forward is more and better Europe not less.....'ordinary people'' know that isolation will kill any country left outside.
    the UK has had the luxury of chosing the good sides of European construction with less constraints than others.won't last forever..........
    23 Jan 2013, 11:44 AM Reply Like
  • tomybhoy
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    And your answer to the Irish referendums on Lisbon and Nice...........
    23 Jan 2013, 12:02 PM Reply Like
  • credit_man
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    how many people who voted had read the lisbon constitution?
    i do agree that Europe is not as popular as the queen...!!!
    its all about marketing isnt it?
    23 Jan 2013, 02:03 PM Reply Like
  • tomybhoy
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    Seeing as the politicians who campaigned for the lisbon treaty had not read it, I will leave you to guess how many ordinary people are able to read through and understand such a treaty.
    For your information The Queen is a lot more popular here since her visit last year, The elites in Europe were never fully trusted and have fully vindicated the distrust people had in them.
    23 Jan 2013, 02:22 PM Reply Like
  • credit_man
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    was just a little note of humour(queen)

     

    as far as the treaty is concerned i dont think to vote for or against something you dont understand is a good idea nor it is a good idea to campaign when you dont actually believe in your project so yes i agree politicians are not trusted for good reasons...
    it doesn't change the fact that the way forward is more europe.no other choice...and ordinary people understand that.it is the execution of the plan they mistrust not the plan itself...
    23 Jan 2013, 03:32 PM Reply Like
  • tomybhoy
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    Maybe credit man but when people continuously lie to you then it is human nature to not trust anything they say, the mainstream media might be playing the politicians game with the propaganda but social sites are informing people faster and better than mainstream media.
    The world is changing faster than most comprehend with the amount of data readily available, this rather than the constant lies might be the undoing of the euro in the long term.
    The Irish, Spanish, Portugese, Greeks and Italians no longer trust the Germans and French......and the French do not trust the Germans.......that is not a healthy position to be in if you want more Europe.
    23 Jan 2013, 03:46 PM Reply Like
  • credit_man
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    agree on politicians disagree on your idea of disbelief beetween individuals..if Europe has done something over the last 20 to 30 years it is that link...social network will help too and soon in 10/15 years a new generation will lead and will re invent Europe meanwhile we will suffer new paradigm with nobody within leaders able to cope with it....
    23 Jan 2013, 03:58 PM Reply Like
  • tomybhoy
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    I hope you are right Credit Man, I also hope the young of today have more of a social consience than todays politicians.
    I may not have explained myself correctly, the European people most likely trust one another but not their own or each others politicians.
    23 Jan 2013, 04:07 PM Reply Like
  • credit_man
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    we are finally in agreement
    nice chat.thanks
    23 Jan 2013, 04:20 PM Reply Like
  • tomybhoy
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    Best of luck Credit Man.
    23 Jan 2013, 04:32 PM Reply Like
  • credit_man
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    thank you

     

    have a great day
    24 Jan 2013, 05:15 AM Reply Like
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