Seeking Alpha

Electric vehicle/Hybrid roundup: 1) Boeing's battery issues shines a light back on the EV...

Electric vehicle/Hybrid roundup: 1) Boeing's battery issues shines a light back on the EV industry, with the initial read-through being that manufacturers opting to use tech outside of lithium batteries may have an edge. 2) Ford (F) expects to set a record for hybrid sales in Jan. with its slate of new vehicles seeing solid demand. The automaker has chipped away at Toyota's (TM) hybrid share lead, gaining 7 percentage points to 16%. 3) Consumer Reports has its hands on a Tesla (TSLA) Model S for detailed testing. In an initial review. CR said the electric vehicle "shatters every myth" about EV cars.
Comments (15)
  • The Model S price range is $50-100k+, depending on which model is ordered. And for 100k, it had BETTER shatter some myths!
    31 Jan 2013, 03:04 PM Reply Like
  • The first thing we need to do is educate people on the strengths of EV's and get people to stop watching (or believing) FOX news.
    Every Ford Focus EV Tesla or Leaf coming down the line is a strike for oil independence. Best thing for the country.
    31 Jan 2013, 03:09 PM Reply Like
  • I Second that. EVs and especially the Tesla S are the future. Off-the-grid charging and clean cruising. Energy independence.
    31 Jan 2013, 03:23 PM Reply Like
  • I 3rd that. TESLA especially opens the door about the hype of EV ones are trying to discredit.
    5 Feb 2013, 02:36 PM Reply Like
  • I don't know about "a strike for oil independence". At best it is a step in that direction but we're going down a very long road. And mentioning the Leaf in the same sentence as Tesla is a stretch. Tesla gets much closer to reducing the distance anxiety of EVs - at a price. But it also doesn't eliminate it. Of course, this also depends on where the electricity is coming from. If oil independence equates with coal and/or nuclear dependence, that needs to be factored in.
    31 Jan 2013, 04:21 PM Reply Like
  • I keep seeing the price of the Model S being brought up as a negative. It's my opinion the vehicle is priced perfectly against the competition. The car isn't just an alternative to the Prius or the Leaf. This thing is actually something people will WANT to drive. It just so happens to be an EV. The center of gravity is about the same as my Corvette, it makes around the same amount of power, and seats five adults with two kids. It's far more aesthetically pleasing than that awful Porsche Panamera, performs beyond the level of an M5, and costs nothing for fuel. The interior might be par, but even that has it's unique positive qualities like the 17" touch screen. My $.02. I'm rooting for these guys to pull it off.
    31 Jan 2013, 04:21 PM Reply Like
  • On top of that, How many of you have a gas pump at your house? My goal is to have solar power to create electricity to charge my future electric car, be it Tesla or what ever. Besides, my earnings from my Tesla(TSLA) and Byddf stocks can pay for my future electric car, too!
    31 Jan 2013, 05:15 PM Reply Like
  • I wonder where is J. Petersen? Haven't heard anymore comments from him?
    5 Feb 2013, 02:36 PM Reply Like
  • You really want to rattle his cage?
    5 Feb 2013, 03:46 PM Reply Like
  • It's great to see those positive comments on EV's and especially Tesla. It could have happened much sooner if the "oil money" execs had not followed their natural greedy instincts, instead of thinking and looking beyond the "me/now" syndrome. Ya' know, it might even be good for this planet we live on. (What a concept)!
    31 Jan 2013, 06:51 PM Reply Like
  • Understand Tesla's Elon Musk is reaching out to Boeing to offer
    his, Telsa's and Space X's help in solving their L.I. battery problems.
    Seems like Telsa and Space X use a different approach to
    L.I. batteries than Boeing.
    3 Feb 2013, 05:35 PM Reply Like
  • Tesla's CEO Elon Musk has a degree in business. He also got a minor in basic physics, but failed to advance into graduate school, dropping out after 2 days to develop internet companies that led to Paypal and other internet service type companies, in the manner of Mark Zuckerberg, but cashing out in the internet bubble stock rage. With all that money, he funded and co-founded Space-X and Tesla, and got rid of the rival co-founders, also in the manner of Zuckerberg. Lawsuits and all.

     

    Musk has no significant technical background, and would not know how to spell Lithium-Ion batteries, much less how they worked; instead relying solely on real engineers and physicists that he hired away from other automotive and aerospace firms to do his bidding.

     

    Boeing is not interested, knowing full well that he is a fraud and a joke in the world of high capacity, high voltage batteries. They would rather talk with the physicists and chemists and engineers that make the batteries.
    3 Feb 2013, 06:09 PM Reply Like
  • .... Whoosh ....
    .......... INCOMING ...
    ..................Whoosh .......
    3 Feb 2013, 06:29 PM Reply Like
  • Link to Article from Elon Musk describing the fundamental differences in approach to L.I. batteries between (Telsa and Space X) AND (Boeing).

     

    My thoughts on the nature of the issue with the battery pack supplied to Boeing http://bit.ly/XgKz3d
    Details
    4 Feb 2013, 03:26 PM Reply Like
  • Telsa's Elon Musk on Boeing's battery problem and how it's different from Telsa's.

     

    Elon Musk ‏@elonmusk

     

    My thoughts on the nature of the issue with the battery pack supplied to Boeing http://bit.ly/XgKz3d
    Details
    7 Feb 2013, 02:28 PM Reply Like
DJIA (DIA) S&P 500 (SPY)