The WSJ reports this evening's vote on Speaker Boehner's debt-limit proposal is off for the...


The WSJ reports this evening's vote on Speaker Boehner's debt-limit proposal is off for the moment. One would have to assume this is because the Speaker did not have the votes to pass the legislation.

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  • tunaman4u2
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    What a surprise, Boehner is a moron
    Its BOTH parties fault! Why don't you BOTH own it & compromise. This dog n pony show isn't helping get any side any votes & its making them look petty & ineffective
    28 Jul 2011, 05:34 PM Reply Like
  • Pragmatic Bear
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    I am just voting against all incumbents until something changes. I encourage all to do the same. A message needs to be sent to these politicians that believe that it is alright to play chicken with economic destruction.
    28 Jul 2011, 05:37 PM Reply Like
  • tigersam
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    Do not get panic yet. It is going to be later on after steak dinner. Do you know the dinner is important than raising the debt limit.
    28 Jul 2011, 05:39 PM Reply Like
  • Playdeep
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    This is not playing chicken with the economy. The chickens are out of the pen, they have been for a long time. This is trying to get the chickens back into the pen before the wolf eats them (mountain of debt we are facing). Both parties are at fault. The problem is that the President wants to raise taxes at a time when the economy is weak. Not a recipe for economic prosperity. Proposing a tax increase is actually a political move by the President to help him with his political base and re-election prospects. He has to give them something (higher taxes) so that he does not look weak. The problem is we need to break Washington of it’s spend thrift ways, and this is a start. A little pain now is better than a lot of pain coming down the road if we do nothing and just raise the debt ceiling. Just; look at Europe and your looking at our future if we don’t start now.
    28 Jul 2011, 06:03 PM Reply Like
  • Bear Bait
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    Playpen give us a break. All the super wealthy do with the money they don't pay in taxes is send it to off shore banks or stick it in Hedge funds that speculate on oil and short the daylights out of the PIIGS. Put that money somewhere it will do some good, the US Treasury's coffers.
    28 Jul 2011, 06:29 PM Reply Like
  • Playdeep
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    To: Bear Bait
    We have 100 trillion on unfunded liabilities, you can tax and confiscate all the wealth and it would not make a dent in the debt problem. The problem is not that we are under taxed but Washington spends to much. You can tax all you want but if you don't control spending you will never close the deficit. And eventually even you might be considered super rich. Not because of prosperity but because you have taxed and confiscated all the wealth from everybody else, deficit still growing, and now you are considered the "super wealthy".
    28 Jul 2011, 07:42 PM Reply Like
  • Dana Blankenhorn
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    I am certain you believe that deep in your heart, but it's just false.
    28 Jul 2011, 08:47 PM Reply Like
  • Monngie
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    Say it again Bear Bait. Again, again, and again.

     

    I've been saying this for months and it's the truth.

     

    The "Job Creators" aren't creating jobs. Not here anyway.
    28 Jul 2011, 09:59 PM Reply Like
  • Monngie
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    No question we spend too much. With your mindset there is no reason to tax anyone. It will do no good.

     

    In fact Playdeep, why even go to work in the morning????
    28 Jul 2011, 10:03 PM Reply Like
  • Playdeep
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    Actually if you are so fond of paying taxes when you get your pay check just sent it to Washington. Don't bother to do a tax return just send in all your income.
    30 Jul 2011, 09:53 AM Reply Like
  • Dana Blankenhorn
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    Paying taxes is the privilege of living in a civilized society. I'm not saying pay more than you owe, but the only true Galtian society I know of -- with no taxes -- is Somalia.

     

    And this nonsense myth that anyone is paying all their income as taxes is stupid. Pay for the wars, like your fathers and grandfathers did. Even if you didn't vote for them, they must be paid for. They haven't been.
    31 Jul 2011, 11:54 AM Reply Like
  • Pragmatic Bear
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    We can't tax the "Job Creators" is one of the longest standing myths. They are creating jobs. However, it is overseas so that they can cut their costs and raise their profits.
    31 Jul 2011, 11:59 AM Reply Like
  • TrueConservative
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    Obama!
    28 Jul 2011, 06:11 PM Reply Like
  • cateyr
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    Thank God! If ANY RINO votes for this bill they will be OUT! Unbelivable that we can only "cut(lol)" $91 billion a year out of Obama's new baseline...Boehner has got to go...nothing but an old RINO!
    28 Jul 2011, 06:17 PM Reply Like
  • Dana Blankenhorn
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    A House Speaker who can't pass his priorities can't be House Speaker. That's the nature of the place.
    28 Jul 2011, 07:06 PM Reply Like
  • Pathfinder's
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    That is for sure, not sure John Boehner can retain his position, think the Conservative Republican in Congress may be gaining the upper hand. Looking to see GRID LOCK all of the time.

     

    If they don's pass anything, they don't increase the spending debt.

     

    Heard that State of Texas House and Senate only meet every other year. Is that true, if so, there is a real message there.
    28 Jul 2011, 07:41 PM Reply Like
  • Dana Blankenhorn
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    My wife's family is from Texas. They have never met more than once every two years, for three months. The Governor, meanwhile, has less real power than a bucket of warm spit. They have Constitutional officers, all elected, who actually do the work.
    28 Jul 2011, 08:48 PM Reply Like
  • Monngie
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    Actually, the Governor is a bucket of warm spit!!!
    28 Jul 2011, 10:05 PM Reply Like
  • Pathfinder's
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    The American Voter can see how broken Washington and the Political Class have become. Both Republican and Democrat,
    what ever either of these political parties are, represent
    their own need for being reelected and remain in power.

     

    Almost every one in Congress know they have the best deal in the country, and they will do anything to retain their office. This
    includes "The One" Obama, maybe most of all.

     

    However, I believe they will never recover from this political battle. The Voter knows how Congress Budgets and Accounts for Funding. Debt to Deficit. We all know Congress need to reduce real spending, cut the size of Government. Reduce the size of every department and service, including Medicare and Social Security. Plus, reduction in working force in Washington.
    28 Jul 2011, 06:55 PM Reply Like
  • Dana Blankenhorn
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    Hey, copyright violation.

     

    Nixon's the one. <g>
    28 Jul 2011, 07:07 PM Reply Like
  • Neil459
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    " The Voter knows how Congress Budgets and Accounts for Funding. Debt to Deficit."

     

    If only this were true. But you see, 50% will forget when they are promised new kitchens like the Obama voters were.
    28 Jul 2011, 07:03 PM Reply Like
  • Dana Blankenhorn
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    No one was promised a new kitchen by any Democrat in any recent election. Maybe the RNC told you that, but they were at the same time telling lobbyists they'd get to write the rules they were regulated under. Deepwater Horizon, hello.
    28 Jul 2011, 07:08 PM Reply Like
  • Hendershott
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    They did get to write the rules. Same for the financial industry, and most other industries. A large part of regulations everyone complains about have been written by industry representatives and consultants. Often to limit competition.
    28 Jul 2011, 08:40 PM Reply Like
  • Neil459
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    Dana, I heard Obama voters say they expected to get a new kitchen based on his campaign promises. So while I might be forced to concede that it may have not been directly promised by Obama, that was clearly the message that was heard. And from the resulting actions by Obama it does appear that he is delivering many new kitchens to his loyal voters.

     

    I hope they feel good, being bought and paid for. Of course, i've heard, that would be no different than the oldest profession in the world.
    28 Jul 2011, 08:58 PM Reply Like
  • TrueConservative
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    I heard Obama voters say they expected to get a new yacht, a harem, and a free puppy!
    28 Jul 2011, 09:45 PM Reply Like
  • Monngie
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    Neil gets a all of those Bu11S#!+ emails from the basement of the RNC. Heck, he might even be a contributor.
    28 Jul 2011, 10:08 PM Reply Like
  • Monngie
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    Those weren't Obama voters. That was those funny little satanic voices in you head.
    28 Jul 2011, 10:10 PM Reply Like
  • Monngie
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    It seems TrueConservative is hearing the same funny little satanic voices. It's so comforting to know you two can do the nice little group therapy thing on SA. Look at the healthcare cost savings.

     

    Hell, we may have stumbled onto the latest Social Networking IPO.

     

    SchizophreniaPal.com

     

    You two can be the first to patients!!!!
    28 Jul 2011, 10:14 PM Reply Like
  • Neil459
    , contributor
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    "Neil gets a all of those Bu11S#!+ emails from the basement of the RNC. Heck, he might even be a contributor."

     

    My source was the news on CBS, NBC, ABC, and FOX. And while you won't believe it (because its the truth and liberals are dead set against the truth) I am not a contributor to the RNC and in fact see little difference between the Republican and Democrat leadership.
    29 Jul 2011, 09:13 AM Reply Like
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