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Policy makers may not have commited felonies in the traditional sense, but they were "crimes"...

Policy makers may not have commited felonies in the traditional sense, but they were "crimes" nevertheless, writes Forbes' Robert Lenzner of our failure to pull ourselves out of the 2008 recession. They were "crimes of bad policy, crimes of financial illiteracy, crimes of stupidity, crimes of poor leadership."
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  • Ted Bear
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    Did a single one of these goons on the Congressional panel ever think to ask Bernanke if he had the legal/consitutional authority to do the things which the Fed did? No!

     

    Has Paulson ever been even close to being indicted/charged with treason for stealing a trillion dollars from the treasury and giving it to his cronies on Wall Street? No!

     

    What? Three years later we expect that someone is going to care? These nutjobs can't even balance a household budget, let alone deal with the abrogation of this Nation's Financial System.

     

    If it weren't incredibly sad, it would be funny. And you certainly couldn't tell the stroy to anyone with a straight face and have them believe you...excpet it is true.
    19 Aug 2011, 08:24 PM Reply Like
  • Windsun33
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    Ted - do you SERIOUSLY think that Congress could have passed even one single piece of legislation to fix the problem?

     

    Don't blame Paulson, the Fed, and others for the Prez and Congress' total failure to act or show any leadership. The only thing that congress is capable of doing is holding meaningless hearings for polticial visibility.
    19 Aug 2011, 10:00 PM Reply Like
  • 7footMoose
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    You should really try to educate yourself somewhere other than Sesame' Street.
    20 Aug 2011, 07:01 AM Reply Like
  • buyitcheap
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    lol - exactly right, which is why we like gridlock. The less they do the better. Unfortunately, the confluence of glass steagal repeal and the push for community reinvestment act (the write crappy loans act) and the outright approval of the 60x leveraged products (by the SEC) produced a perfect storm of garbage paper. a perfect storm by perfect fools in both branches of government.
    20 Aug 2011, 08:30 AM Reply Like
  • Windsun33
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    Today's program is brought to you by the Letter "A". "A" is used in words like Apocalypse, Armageddon, and "A congressional committee"...
    20 Aug 2011, 10:56 AM Reply Like
  • 7footMoose
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    Very nice, Wind.
    20 Aug 2011, 11:34 AM Reply Like
  • The_American
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    Here is a sputnik moment. Radical American thinking FREE ENERGY. Fact- 3 percent of Arizonas land mass covered with largest solar project known to mankind would electrify a majority of the US. Put some wind turbines around the country. Use biofuel instead of jetful where airlines have to rely on oil. OPEC is not our friends. The problem is we literally have a broken and corrupt government where corporations dictate policy in this country and it is killing us. Imagine the US consumer makes up 70 percent of GDP and they have already carved out the middle class. In 10 years most cars will be electric, consumer spending will shoot through the roof and our savings rate would go up at the same time. Imagine that. I do not even want to hear it's a job killer because we are already export nat gas and this would not change. It can and should be done. 10 years goes by and we should have twin towers larger than the original to give people hope and to feel confident again. I mean really? The government cut NASA over entitlements to the oil companies. NASA who invented the microprocessor and hundreds of other things that we use today. I hope Boehner is happy that now we have politicians who are willing to stoop to the lowest level by using the full faith and credit of the USA as a bargaining chip to cut deals. Not only scare the American people but the entire world so those cuts they did not want to pay for we will now pay for in spades. Eisenhower was the only president who was a general And over 50 years have gone by and grab a clip of his outgoing speech and he warned us as he saw the rise of America and this is the man who invented the word and said we should never have our politics and corporations together and involved in our massive "Industrial Military Complex" and saw it then. I suggest long SLV both short and long term and as gold GLD or Iau which has a lower expense ratio if and I do believ gold Ugl , dgl, hits 3000 you may see the gold to silver ratio tighten as it has always been. I worked at MS and I tell you we are in a resource war and a new cold war with China. I laughed when Boeing was so happy they got a multi billion dollar contract because they just saved the Chinese hundreds of billions in r and d and within 2 years they will be selling planes at half price. China does not allow anymore than 49 percent interest in anything. All you get is cheap labor. If I do my math right, the trillions of dollars they stole from us in intellectual property rights does not outweigh the good. Our own government was stupid enough to actually have special orders made into our government agencies so China has been watching and know some of our most inner secrets. We are asleep at the wheel. That is no joke and was on the news. They are investing in education and we are cutting, they are building and our infrastructure- we are rotting. I watch the market news throughout the day and slot of these guys talk about Reagan economics but the entire landscape was different back then. Now we have Brazil, China, India, Phillipines, Taiwan and let's just call it the entire orient and Latin America all growing and we are in a "Resource War" and Cyberwar but resources alone you can buy the ETF Remx or molycorp or ree. We will start to see society breakdown if we do not get together and we have not had a great American moment in a long time. We need to get moving and I still can't get over NASA. What are our children going to look to and dream other than playing xbox. We should open trade centers for enhancements on skilled trade because the world is moving so fast and we are so behind. America created google and china did bidu we have apple and china creates lobovo and they are buying our small cap companies and forming alliances to gain the technology and then spit them out. What are these small companies to do? America is not looking inward. We have much political unrest and the landscape will change. Chinas estimated GDP says they will beat par with us in 10 years and by 2060 they will be the larger than all combined. While we invest inmisslesthey are buying oil and gas fields, while we are spending money on entitlements they are buying gold, silver, platinum , palladium mining fields. You will start to see countries nationalize their goldmines as chavez just did in Venezuela. This is just the beginning and then you can see gold go parabolic and china will own it all and be the world reserve currency. Dba , DBC , moo, SLV , AGQ ,GLD are the only investments that I can see for the long term. CEOs come and go and they just pinch pennies for corporate profits just as short sighted as our politicians are and if this continues our quality of life will be that of nothing. I get disgusted when I see these guys on the media say renting is not so bad. And now they are going to cut pensions and benefits for people how will anyone retire. They will have us work until we die? Or what little we save we can just empty our bank accounts at the nursing home until they throw people out on a wheel chair. We really need to think bid. Like when people from all over the world came to see the empire state building which was the first skyscraper. Now we need that moment, no time to cut, time to invest but you only invest on something you actually would get a return on your investment for the long term.
    21 Aug 2011, 11:52 PM Reply Like
  • moreofthesame
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    I think the thought about covering arizona with solar panels is interesting, I think even better is Space Solar. It is quite doable to put huge or in space terms rather small solar fields into orbit which could be enormous powerstations. Google "Space solar" for details.
    Considering the trillions that are spent on warfare, we could have developed a single space solar project just for shits and giggles, just to test it out, the cost is high, yes but compared to the money that's spent on war its cheap. Spend a couple billions if necessary, put a space solar field in orbit and let it run for testing purposes .... that would give us new data which we desperately need.

     

    The problem is, how will you let those greedy oil and banking maniacs let go of our future?!

     

    Regarding China, one mustn't forget that China has been obsessed with a isolationist type of power dream for thousands of years and nothing much has changed. They believe that they are on the highest level of culture possible to humans while in reality they have been trailing behind europe for centuries and before that they have continually battled against each others tribes for centuries. Culturally speaking, the chinese are children and it will take them a long time to learn that aspect. Its one thing to copy something but its another to be able to develop and refine it over time.
    22 Aug 2011, 02:36 AM Reply Like
  • The_American
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    I agree but one must never under estimate the Chinese. They have transformed to a capitalist society and have become very arrogant. All top economist from jp Morgan, Goldman sachs all have conservative numbers that all point to the direction of them taking over the us in ten years and beyond. They are making all the right moves like a chess game. The fact is from americaindepence.org and on the news is the that if we take 3 percent of FAZ land mass and covered it with solar we would electrify the country and provide FREE ENERGY to every American household. This would immediately create GRASS ROOTS stimulus because you would have an immediate increasing in consumer spending, our savings rate would go up, we would have national security on our basic energy needs founded and you would actual have a lower unemployment rate because businesses would hire onj demand. Talk about knocking out 80 birds with one stone. Obamas plan on infrastructure he might as well give each American citizen a million dollars so they spend it and create it on the revenue side. We really need to start thinking outside the box and these politicians on both sides of the isle have been bought by corporations and now we have corporations that dictate American policy. This will be our demise if there is not a revolution in the. As the great Thomas Friedman the world is flat and his new book that use to be us referring to the Chinese. They are investing in their people and research and development to eventually compete with us all. Their army is as large as ours.
    17 Sep 2011, 03:24 PM Reply Like
  • 7footMoose
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    The Chinese are not without their own significant problems.
    17 Sep 2011, 03:42 PM Reply Like
  • mike mohr
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    So, ask yourself a simple question why these goons in congress and white house are still in charge?
    Because they know ordinary people can not do anything about it.
    19 Aug 2011, 08:32 PM Reply Like
  • EMS
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    Beg to differ with the "not committing felonies" part. Rhetorical, but nonetheless inaccurate, as we all know.
    19 Aug 2011, 08:32 PM Reply Like
  • The Geoffster
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    The public is ignorant of finance and economics and couldn't care less as long as they get their entitlements.
    19 Aug 2011, 08:51 PM Reply Like
  • dividend_growth
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    Or even worse, getting their tax cut on the cost of everyone else.
    19 Aug 2011, 11:01 PM Reply Like
  • WMARKW
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    Geoff....and the loons in DC are ignorant of finance and economics and couldn't care less as long as they get re- elected, have their congressional salaries, prestige and perks, and as long as they will get their retirement for all the hard work they did getting us into this mess. They should be stripped of any retirement benefits and made to go back into the workforce and suffer the realities of the monster they have created.
    20 Aug 2011, 01:42 AM Reply Like
  • lowemoran
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    Barracka Hussein Omama created this mess and wants to destroy our beloved country.

     

    He should be impeached for treason.

     

    God Bless America from Hussein O.....
    19 Aug 2011, 09:16 PM Reply Like
  • mike mohr
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    Bush is also responsible. He created this mess and Obama is too corrupt to fix this.
    19 Aug 2011, 09:33 PM Reply Like
  • Joe Morgan
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    I concur, Obama has destroyed our country. We need to impeach him, so America can move forward again.
    19 Aug 2011, 09:38 PM Reply Like
  • Windsun33
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    Obama had little to do with creating it, the past few congresses did most of that. On the other hand, Obama had been totally clueless about any ways to fix it.
    20 Aug 2011, 04:07 AM Reply Like
  • nobby73
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    Obama is a puppet of the bankers....
    20 Aug 2011, 06:00 AM Reply Like
  • davidingeorgia
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    Then that's also an indictment of the citizenry of the USA then, since a majority of them elected these boobs/crooks.
    19 Aug 2011, 09:27 PM Reply Like
  • WMARKW
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    Absolutely correct. They have discovered you don't have to convice people with a brain to get their vote... They are a minority. You need to convince people without brains by bribing them with an entitlement, or you convince them with some glossy photograph, or some marketing hype, etc. Once they get in office, they do what they want anyway. The system needs an overhaul.
    20 Aug 2011, 01:44 AM Reply Like
  • moreofthesame
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    where is the "Dislike" button???

     

    I couldnt agree more, the public has to educate itself, it really is quite easy nowadays with the internet.

     

    Iowemoron, interesting names you come up with, I am sure that will help a lot.
    19 Aug 2011, 09:32 PM Reply Like
  • Zigg
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    It's a shame SA took away the thumbs down.... the like button is lame, and no one uses it compared to the old system
    19 Aug 2011, 09:55 PM Reply Like
  • WMARKW
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    Here's my version of a t-down:

     

    -------V-------- or a double:
    ------V--V-------
    20 Aug 2011, 01:45 AM Reply Like
  • nobby73
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    I think it was taken down because there were lots of occasions where a comment would almost instantaneously get up to 8 thumbs down. It used to happen to me if I made negative comments about Bank of America. There was one time I made a comment and about 5 mins later, there were 8 thumbs down and 0 thumbs up, then after a few hours, there were still 8 thumbs down and 9 thumbs up. I heard there were PR groups who had created multiple identities and were trawling for things they didn't like...

     

    But I agree, it's not the same without both options.
    20 Aug 2011, 06:05 AM Reply Like
  • Yokyok
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    "crimes of bad policy, crimes of financial illiteracy, crimes of stupidity, crimes of poor leadership."
    of course he's talking about the Bush administration right?
    the ones who created this mess?
    aha.. yea... thought so
    19 Aug 2011, 09:40 PM Reply Like
  • HiSpeed
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    Bush seemed bad until we got stuck with someone who took a bad situation and made (and is making it) far worse!
    19 Aug 2011, 10:38 PM Reply Like
  • moreofthesame
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    The problem with democracy is that one has to get elected by the ones who have to be guided. Do you think your children would vote for whats best for them at times?
    It would be hard to get elected when promising to cut jobs and raise taxes. But one has to think of Andrew Jackson, he gave the order to remove the deposits of the national bank, he was then censured by the senate for it and blamed for everything in the world, and still got himself elected for a second term.
    He was the only president ever to pay off government debt and he managed to get rid of the central bank.
    May be if we had a politician who is not only in it for their own success but actually live up to the enormous task of leadership then voting would actually make a change.
    19 Aug 2011, 09:42 PM Reply Like
  • jimbrewer
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    "Jackson and no bank."
    19 Aug 2011, 10:16 PM Reply Like
  • Bozerdog
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    If the guys in charge now are felons what about the last crew who slaughtered hundreds of thousands looking for wmds. Obama is a lame duck but cmon
    19 Aug 2011, 10:50 PM Reply Like
  • WMARKW
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    They were/are both terrible. But you need to stop and ask why. The reason why is they do what they are told to do. They are figureheads. They don't run the country. They are told or allowed to do what is NOT in the best interest of the country. Name ONE thing in the last 10 years that has been beneficial to the country and the people.
    20 Aug 2011, 01:46 AM Reply Like
  • davidbdc
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    Well what is left to say? The crooks got away with all the money. They keep giving some of it to those in charge as protection money, er I mean campaign contributions. The stimulus was simply giving money to public workers already employed. This country has been taken over by the triumvirate of the financial elite, politicians and public unions. If your in one of those three groups life is good and your children stand a fighting chance..... if not, your screwed and your children will likely live worse than you did.

     

    And lets be clear, a majority of our citizens will vote for whomever promises them the most "stuff". As a country we no longer value hard work, sacrifice, risk taking and building something - and the wealth that comes with it over time. We play pretend in our schools, telling everyone they are above average. But the only thing above average is the number of adults getting upper middle class lifestyles for "public service".

     

    Things are so screwed up it isn't funny. 41 cents of every dollar spent by the Federal government is borrowed money. A trillion dollar stimulus given away to political groups. A trillion dollar bailout to ensure million dollar bonuses to those that wrecked the financial system. Not a single lasting thing can be identified from either! Total government spending at all levels is nearing 40% of our GDP!! Does the government really need to run 40% of our lives???

     

    Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness? Seems like a long long time ago.
    20 Aug 2011, 12:25 AM Reply Like
  • bob adamson
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    The quality of the democratic process is often assessed in turns of whether the electorate is able to elect persons to office to carry out the program for which the majority of voters voted. Arguably it is equally important that the democratic process allows for
    (a) changing policy during the term of elected officials if circumstances change or if the policies on which these officials were elected prove not to be working out, and
    (b) significant change in Party success from election to election to reflect changing elector sentiment.

     

    It is arguable that US Federal politics has not been doing as well on points (a) and (b) over the past couple of decades as should be the case. Point (a) is frustrated by ideological rigidity within each of the two major Parties which encourages the Party currently in the ascendency from time to time in the legislative and executive branches to simply double down on policies whether these policies are working out as planned or not. Both points (a) and (b) are frustrated by excessive gerrymandering of Congressional Districts so that, even where their is a dramatic shift in voter sentiment from one election to the next, only between 10 and 20 percent of the seats change hands. In other words, for 80% or more of Congressmen, their is minimal risk of not being re-elected (unless, of course, the zealots within their own Party deny them the nomination.

     

    Assuming that the checks and balances feature of US constitutional practice can only work if accompanied during difficult times by a willingness of within both Parties to seek honorable and appropriate compromise solutions on difficult issues that otherwise will not be resolved, the rigidity described above is a significant problem.

     

    How much of the "crimes of bad policy, crimes of financial illiteracy, crimes of stupidity, crimes of poor leadership." discussed above are fostered by the rigidity of process just described?
    20 Aug 2011, 01:26 AM Reply Like
  • davidbdc
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    Thats an excellent point on the way districts are constructed. We should mandate that each district can contain only a recognizable geometric figure of no more than 4 sides. Allow for state boundaries as one or two sides and thats it. By having "safe" seats, it allows for a small group of activists to dominate the policies.... we as people are also to blame by not showing up to vote in the "primaries". We are also to blame for allowing only two parties to exist.

     

    Its time to vote for (I) - Independents, (L) - Libertarian, (C) - Constitution, etc candidates in 2012. Until we start electing some true outsiders things are never going to change.
    20 Aug 2011, 12:37 PM Reply Like
  • cudashark
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    Hey you guys who want to blame the Bush administration have a tendancy to forget 3 things; (and many more)

     

    1 the spending republicans were thrown out in 2006 letting the House and Senate go to the Democrats. Then it really increased!

     

    2 for years the Democrats were the party of "no" filibustering every important piece of legislation like SS reform as well as fixing Fannie and Freddie.

     

    3 Obama was a do nothing senitor his whole carrer, he was packaged and sold to the idiot "American consumer " and people who had been used to 4-5% unemployment corrupt unions and the wholesale exploytation of minorities.

     

    These problems are the ME atitude of the spoiled baby boomer generation.

     

    When we say to pay the fair share, I'd like to start taxing some of the edowment money the Ivy League Universitys enjoy.

     

    Collage tuition is skyrocketing because the Federal Government backstops the loans. Before that the y/y cost increase was a lot slower.

     

    Good Job Baby Boomers, This is squarely your mess!
    20 Aug 2011, 07:24 AM Reply Like
  • css1971
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    Obama, Bush, Obama, Bush, Obama, Bush.

     

    Guess what. They're on the same side. They are all backed by the same bunch.

     

    You'd better go vote for the other one now.

     

    LOL.
    20 Aug 2011, 07:39 AM Reply Like
  • buyitcheap
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    exactly css, well said!
    20 Aug 2011, 08:31 AM Reply Like
  • tjohn1
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    Our sacred(?) Constitution invested power in a few people in Washington DC. They have consistently sold their offices for profit and betrayed the voters who put them in their offices. Just imagine how the procurement people under George Washington could have gotten kickbacks from arms suppliers of those days! No GAO No IG to look over their shoulders! We have now GAO and IGs in each agency! But grand thievery continues unabated. Do you think all this grand thievery will vanish if we dissolve our great Republic! Not a chance!
    20 Aug 2011, 09:08 AM Reply Like
  • Papaswamp
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    As long as the cable works, sports teams play and McNasty's is cheap…the masses will stay ignorant. Roman empire used the same tactics to keep the 'people' in line.
    20 Aug 2011, 09:18 AM Reply Like
  • Edward, Lord Clarendon
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    In my day in England the home-grown leadership was so awful we had to invite in a foreign prince (William of Orange) to kick butt and straighten it out for us.

     

    And again in 1776.

     

    And it sort of reminds me of 1860-65 too. Reasonable compromises were available, but such compromise would have taken tough decisions on slavery so deftly evaded by our esteemed Founding Fathers. Congressional extremeists on both sides, flogged on by their pandering spritual advisors in the pulpits and economic greed, forced a compromise "by other means," a whole lot less palatable. And even after the blood dried and the graves went untended it took ANOTHER hundred years to get to the civil rights act.

     

    Point is: Radicals have overwhelmed the moderate center and effecitvely hijacked the government into a spit-flecked screaming match to please the yelping dogs in the media.

     

    And if it doesn't get cured, there will be blood in the burning streets. Tottenham will look like a girl scout summer camp.

     

    Mark it: it's the story of mankind. Wake up, America. It's not rocket science.
    20 Aug 2011, 09:26 AM Reply Like
  • Papaswamp
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    They will wait until it is too late…because 'that could never happen here' mentality prevails.
    20 Aug 2011, 10:57 AM Reply Like
  • moreofthesame
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    Isn't it amazing how within a few weeks the media especially Fox is serving us yet again the "Top Tiers" The "ones in the spotlight" for 2012.
    Who tells the media to pick the top tiers?? every four years its the same thing, pretty much out of nowhere come some frontrunners who suddenly know best what to do to "take back" the country. Who even knew Obama existed until a few months or weeks before the campaigning started?? BTW Ron Paul came in very close second in Iowa and nobody mentioned him while he is probably the only guy who has shown us true consistency in his opinions and has precisely predicted the events that we are faced with now. My point is that it is clear that the media is creating or at least strongly influencing our opinion. As long as we have people who are making this into a Republicans versus Democrats "sporting event" then we are doing exactly what the bankers want us to do.

     

    The facts are easy to see:

     

    A) The US has dominated the worlds oilsupply and can't let go of it, like a Bulldog clinging to its stick. That dominance is the reason why the US$ is the measure of all currencies and that must not change, otherwise the USA would fall.

     

    B) While its good in the short run to keep dominating the oilsupply we have to realise that in the "not so long run" we HAVE to get away from being dominated by the usage of fossil fuels and natural gas. It is a antiquated source of energy and we HAVE NO CHOICE than to make a change. The question is how many lives should be wasted before that happens.

     

    C) The cost of war is forcing us into bankruptcy, it is a necessary war as it is the only way for us to continue to dominate the oil supply but it is also bankrupting us.
    So the real question remains.... If we would had invested the trillions of dollars that the wars have cost us into the development of more sophisticated sources of energy like for example "space solar" etc. where would we be now? It's impossible to say but we all know what this country has come up with under pressure in the past and we can all assume that we would be in a better place by now.

     

    So Gentlemen, it is time for that Pitbull to let go of its stick, yes you oilcompanies and Central banks, and its time to think ahead. Please don't let it come down to the last drop of oil and the last drop of blood before we can go this way and please don't make us elect a president who would have to use the armed forces to take back control in a full out war against you guys. It's time to step out of the vehicle and put your hands behind your back, peacefully.
    20 Aug 2011, 02:06 PM Reply Like
  • jw4golf
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    crimes of stupidity fully describes a liberal politician
    20 Aug 2011, 03:48 PM Reply Like
  • The_American
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    We can all go back and forth they did it, he did it, it was the libs, the deems, the Repubs, congress which by the way is so backwards and corrupt some of these people should be in jail. The point is we need to fundamentally fix our problems and start the largest solar and wind project the world has ever known it is a step in the right direction. Go to americaindependenceene... and you take 3% of Arizonas land mass and give a permanent stimulus forever it will do good in the country. We are constantly throwing money at things that are temporary relief and if we do something permanent you will have an immediate increasing in consumer spending, the savings rate will go up, business would hire from Home Grown Demand and small business and we the people make up 70 percent of the GDP and the government would get it back on revenues. This is a NO BRAINER and if Obama is going to do the 450 billion it's time the money went into something where our taxpayer dollars got a return on it's investment.
    25 Sep 2011, 12:33 PM Reply Like
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