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Electric vehicle wrapup: 1) A Reuters article takes a harsh look at the cost of Norway's...

Electric vehicle wrapup: 1) A Reuters article takes a harsh look at the cost of Norway's government-assisted push into electric vehicles. Pure market share is up to 3%, but the numbers aren't adding up. 2) Another win for Tesla Motors (TSLA +0.4%) in its battle against auto dealers as Minnesota takes steps to allow the automaker to open retail stores in the state. 3) Henrik Fisker is reported to be leaving Fisker Automotive due to a disagreement with the management of the company he founded.
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  • Vico Confino
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    Vico Confino owner of two Tesla S autos, delivered Dec. 21, 2012
    When the Captain (Hennrik Fisker) abandons ship (Fisker Automotive)
    you don't need a Ouji board to see the future.
    Vico Confino
    13 Mar 2013, 11:32 AM Reply Like
  • Cassina Tarsia
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    Right on, Vico!

     

    It is amazing, too, how some people just don't get it ... like Norway's electric vehicle assist. Electric is a definite plus in this age of diminishing oil reserves and global warming, along with all of the pollution our planet is reeling from now. At least Norway is serious about getting people to change their thinking about alternative energy.
    13 Mar 2013, 11:45 AM Reply Like
  • 123man
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    Norway is oil rich and it citizens benefit in a big way monetarily - but they recognize the finite nature of diminishing reserves and so use their wealth to create a new longer lasting economy, a model other countries could use - Brazil is at near energy independence and their economy flourishes - the Petrodollar connection is waining, the US will suffer as a consequence and no number of wars can stem the eventual tide - moving away from oil dependence to clean energy independence is a start - support Tesla, support the BLOOM box (60 minutes reported it), support wind energy, support PV solar - every drip adds to the volume, drip, dribble, runoff, stream, river = eventual independence
    13 Mar 2013, 12:11 PM Reply Like
  • Surf Dog
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    Auto dealers complaining about Tesla opening dealerships because Tesla doesn't have the same overhead, is like McDonalds Franchisees complaining about a mom and pop burger shop opening because they don't have to pay franchise fees.

     

    No one can force a company wanting to open a hamburger business to go with a franchise model because their shops would not have the franchise fee overhead and no one should be able to block Tesla from opening their Company Owned Dealerships either.

     

    It's Baseless.

     

    The laws protect established franchised dealers from manufacturers who want it both ways, not from a manufacturer that chooses one way over another.

     

    The other manufacturers had a choice and they chose to franchise. Tesla had the same choice, and they chose not to. That is the way a free market works. For the States to block Tesla from opening its own dealerships would be monopolistic on the State's part, and they can't do that. The States can’t promote, protect, or facilitate monopolistic practices. If the States were to side with the dealers organizations would open the States up to lawsuits, and rightfully so.

     

    The dealers claim that Tesla stores will reduce competition. That spin just doesn’t cut it.
    “Lambert said the auto dealers group's resistance has nothing to do with the type of cars offered.”
    "We're not opposed to electric vehicles," Lambert said. "If consumers want to buy them, we'd love to sell them. We're opposed to electric vehicles not being sold by a franchised dealer, because if manufacturers run the market, it will be far less competitive for customers."

     

    What the dealers are really afraid of is that there will be more competition for them, and because the manufacturers they represent have chosen to ignore the potential market for a vehicle like the Tesla Model S, they don’t have a vehicle to sell that can compete with it.

     

    We all see the difference in sales vs. availability for the Leaf and Volt compared to the reservation backlog for the Model S. Tesla has earned the right to their share of the market by producing an exceptional vehicle.

     

    The dealers are applying the pressure in the wrong place. They should be pressuring their respective manufacturers to produce vehicles that are competitive so they can compete in the market, they have no basis to try and get the States to legislate the competition away, particularly when the consumer benefits from the competition.
    13 Mar 2013, 01:38 PM Reply Like
  • Agnes59
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    My sentiment exactly.
    13 Mar 2013, 06:00 PM Reply Like
  • joeinslw
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    Let's forget about supply and demand of oil energy, if the storms like Sandy and others in the past few months don't draw a picture for you then you are greedy, blind, lier, or all three if you refuse to see that fossil fuel autos and trucks in every country throughout the world are causing pollution which is causing Global warming.
    Have you seen the ice caps melting? What do you think is causing that?
    Tesla autos gives the driver/owner the performance they want and need, plus these vehicles have NO TAILPIPE, and so they emit zero emissions, what could be bad about that?
    When we experienced the unforgettable 9-11 every plane or jet was grounded I am sure you will remember that, and during that time the folks taking pollution readings noticed that pollution or Co2 went down big time. If that doesn't say to you there is something to this tailpipe issue when every fossil fuel burning machine out there is polluting the planet.
    I have an issue with people polluting this ball in space in which we all live and breath, we need to stop polluting it, it's bad for your and my health.
    13 Mar 2013, 02:10 PM Reply Like
  • Engineer&Far
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    Norway gets almost 100% of its electricity from hydroelectric power. This fact keeps its electric costs down, not the offshore oil. In the US environmentalists block new dams or even adding hydroelectric facilities to existing dams. We are sooooo dumb it hurts. Don't believe me, check electric rates in Washington state and Idaho, the most 'hydroelectric developed' area of the US.
    13 Mar 2013, 02:37 PM Reply Like
  • 123man
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    E&F - you make a valid point - it is difficult to strike a balance, but balance must be found - does anyone know what happened to the BLOOM BOX electric generators?
    14 Mar 2013, 10:41 AM Reply Like
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