Boeing's (BA) 787 could restart flights "in weeks, not in months," the company says after...

Boeing's (BA) 787 could restart flights "in weeks, not in months," the company says after detailing a "permanent fix" for its lithium-ion battery problems that "addresses all (the) causal factors" which led to two burn-outs. Boeing will put the batteries in stainless steel cases, and add extra insulation, spacers and heat-resistant sleeving. Boeing has also asked suppliers Yuasa and Thales to improve production standards.

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  • addiew85
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    Hopefully this solves all the problems!!!
    15 Mar 2013, 04:17 AM Reply Like
  • thomas85225
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    Boeing will be allowed “limited test flights” with two 787s
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    that will have prototype components of the new battery system, the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration said March 12. Boeing must prove in flight and laboratory tests that the design meets U.S. standards, and the FAA could insist on more changes, the agency said in a statement.
    After reading the NTSB report it answers a few questions but did address others questions
    The FAA and NTSB could save time and money and just add a new cover sheet to their existing 2007 report;ExpandSection=-7,-4#_...


    In 2007 The FAA The US Federal Aviation Administration voiced its concerns about the use of lithium ion batteries and proposed special condition for 787-8.


    Boeing and NTSB have known about Lithium-ion battery in 2007 when a Cessna Citation CJ4 Citations catch fire and the FAA issued an emergency AD, without all the herding ect and the month of delays to remove the Lithium-ion battery


    Airbus, Cessna, Gulf Stream will not use Lithium-ion batteries in there aircrafts!


    Lithium-ion batteries defects. Are sensitive to manufacturing flaws.




    See Dan Rather reports on Boeing's
    787 time line


    Six year ago Boeing, FAA, the Post office, DOT, UPS and NTSB knew about Lithium-ion battery that being reported in the news and have had six years to study the problem!


    But in 2007 the FAA issued an Emergency AD, (without all the Herding ect and the month of delays) to remove the Lithium-ion batteries from Cessna Citation CJ4 Citations aircrafts
    Boeing and the FAA need to go the Boeing System Integration Laboratory in Seattle


    there should be a functional test mockup of the 787 electrical systems inside the LAB for 787 alone with a flight control Iron Bird and Electric Iron Bird for testing all the loadable Software LRS’s for each aircrafts


    Boeing and the FAA need configuring the System Integration Laboratory SIL for ANA airline and JAL airline by down loading the Flight Data Recorder from ANA and JAL into System Integration Laboratory and repeating the flight of ANA and JAL to determine where the battery got fire during the flight to find the root cause of the electrical 787 problems
    Also Boeing and the FAA need perform testing of the electrical system by placing electric OVER LOAD into system of each one of the components, of the six genitor, APU, R.A.T and two Batteries and the four LRS’s to repeat the failure in the LAB to try to discover the cause of problems
    This test should explain why Electrical Circuit Breakers did not trip that should have prevent the system from overloading of the electrical systems from the overload of the battery charging systems alone with aircraft on board monitoring system


    Boeing should have been running the SIL for the 787 electrical system since 2003 for all the 787 airlines configurations



    The All Electric Boeing 787



    After knowing what inside ion-battery these batteries should never be allow on board any aircrafts
    If the Fire does not kill you, the smoke will !


    Boeing want to installed the two redesign batteries with more space between battery ceils and place it into an Explosion and fire proof LRU boxes with drain and vent tubes (no word on cooling of the batteries)
    The FAA has Explosion Proof LRU and fire proof LRU boxes has been the requirement for over 30 years alone with Flammability Standards for the rest of the aircrafts which was increase in 1989


    No Fire Extinguisher can put out a Lithium-ion batteries fire

    From the New times: The Justice Department should start an Investigations into the 787 since the program was started in 2003 and Boeing knew about the Lithium-Ion Battery problems and workmanships problems before the fires!
    The Bottom Line is Lithium-ion batteries are un safe and should never be place on any aircrafts!
    Boeing was trying to save the weight of two Lithium-ion battery weighting 68 pound each and the cost of $1600.per batteries
    Which has cause the grounding of 50 787 since 1-16-2013 an lost of revenue to the airlines which the airlines are now demanding payment from Boeing, Boeing has spent 32 Billions on the first 40 787
    Boeing is already 3.5 years late with the 787 program only 103 aircrafts has been assembly and 50 has been delivery to the airline since 2003
    Boeing need to sell 1100 787 to break even that was before the grounding
    Boeing said it would assemble one 787 ever three days Boeing should have delivery over 300 to dated !
    Boeing could offer the airlines an opinion on what color smoke that wanted coming out there Lithium-ion batteries and a close circuit TV camera to monitors the batteries so the crew and passenger can watch on the in seat passenger entertainment systems


    The next NTSB heard on the 787 Lithium-ion batteries problems is April 2013
    15 Mar 2013, 05:09 AM Reply Like
  • phdinsuntanning
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    this guy must be a lead or cobalt investor
    15 Mar 2013, 12:17 PM Reply Like
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