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China Central Television (CCTV) has accused Apple (AAPL) and Volkswagen of giving consumers a...

China Central Television (CCTV) has accused Apple (AAPL) and Volkswagen of giving consumers a bad deal. It's worth taking notice, as it was CCTV allegations about chicken quality at KFC that led to a plunge in sales.
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  • arnoldyung5
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    This time is different. The allegations were busted by actor posting CCTV request to comment on AAPL issue on "about 8:20pm" in weibo, China's Twitter clone.

     

    Now everyone knows it's stringed by CCTV. What a shame.
    17 Mar 2013, 06:19 AM Reply Like
  • dividend_growth
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    Yep, it's big news in China.

     

    CCTV blew its credibility badly this time.
    17 Mar 2013, 07:55 AM Reply Like
  • nguyenvanphuoc
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    Can you clarify this comment please? I don't understand what happened.
    17 Mar 2013, 09:13 AM Reply Like
  • cn_habs
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    Most internationals sell the items they make in China substantially higher than the prices Westerners buy them for. Vietnam has it just as hardly as China when it comes to getting scammed by those foreign firms.
    17 Mar 2013, 01:13 PM Reply Like
  • fafatooey
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    So? Don't buy the product, simple. Big deal.
    18 Mar 2013, 12:45 AM Reply Like
  • dividend_growth
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    That's because the Chinese government charges 25% value added taxes on all these products.

     

    They need that to pay for their Moutais, luxury cars, and condos.
    18 Mar 2013, 01:59 AM Reply Like
  • Sam Liu
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    I get better service at Apple in Cn than in the SF Bay Area. But then no matter what, it is far beyond that of any other PC or smartphone customer service. Largely the Windows PC after sales service is delinquent in Beijing.

     

    I wonder what CCTV is trying to prove.

     

    Apple Stores in Cn are very busy. Less so any other PC manufacturer, including Lenovo.

     

    So I wonder where the Lenovos are being purchased.

     

    Africa?
    17 Mar 2013, 08:48 AM Reply Like
  • Echo To All
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    Here is the link about the 820 Party:

     

    http://bit.ly/YH0gTH

     

    Media manipulation, busted.
    17 Mar 2013, 10:41 AM Reply Like
  • cn_habs
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    Yeah as if media here hasn't brainwashed the masses already?
    17 Mar 2013, 01:14 PM Reply Like
  • raincity
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    @Echo - thanks for the article link.

     

    I'm glad that this blew up in their faces. I'm happy to see the Chinese citizens revolting against this deplorable behavior by their state run media.
    17 Mar 2013, 03:23 PM Reply Like
  • bondstevenbond
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    If this wasn't so ridiculously sad, it would be utterly hilarious!

     

    820 Party says it all about Totalitarianism

     

    Analogy: imagine 60 Minutes were owned by PBS and they paid Brad Pitt, George Clooney, and Oprah to bash Toyota.
    17 Mar 2013, 12:15 PM Reply Like
  • kimboslice
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    CCTV has never had any credibility. This is the China communist party govt. network FYI.
    China Mobile is also owned by the same entity, the China communist party govt.
    Maybe China Mobile is frustrated negotiating with Apple about iPhone?
    I have been to China, it's interesting. The news is on TV and the thing goes to "snow" when the Taiwanese politician is talking. Then it goes to normal when he's finished. This is on CNN or BBC or similar. There is a censor with a button.
    China Communist govt. employs 30,000 people to monitor emails, especially originating from internet cafes.
    Google searches are of course censored in China, you all knew that.
    17 Mar 2013, 12:48 PM Reply Like
  • cn_habs
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    It's hilarious how most of the folks here know nothing about that country yet pretend to be the next Henry Kissinger.
    17 Mar 2013, 01:15 PM Reply Like
  • jamesingram32
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    Why would anyone want to pretend to be the next H Kissinger!
    17 Mar 2013, 06:42 PM Reply Like
  • cn_habs
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    Then why would someone pretend to understand a foreign country that obviously know nothing about?

     

    Can most even point out the third largest country on a world map? :)
    17 Mar 2013, 07:03 PM Reply Like
  • jamesingram32
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    I do repeat my question: Why would anyone want to pretend to be the next H Kissinger. Yeah, we can point out China, it's to the right of Poland, and too near to the Mongolians for their liking!
    Why do you think Kissinger is anything to aspire to being?

     

    Where are you from? What do you know about Kissinger?
    17 Mar 2013, 07:33 PM Reply Like
  • Sam Liu
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    "the third largest country on a world map? "

     

    The USA is 3rd largest in area after Russia, Canada ...

     

    Jp is the 3rd largest GDP after USA, Cn!
    17 Mar 2013, 07:45 PM Reply Like
  • tradewin
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    Utah.
    17 Mar 2013, 09:24 PM Reply Like
  • cn_habs
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    Of course such a typical ABC/CBC answer you got there.

     

    Taiwan belongs to the Chinese people IMHO.
    18 Mar 2013, 12:26 AM Reply Like
  • cn_habs
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    For a foreigner, Kissinger actually knew the real China inside out and never followed the Western propaganda like a sheep. Nowadays, among the American politicians maybe Jon Huntsman still knows a thing or two.
    18 Mar 2013, 12:29 AM Reply Like
  • jamesingram32
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    You should read Christopher Hitchens on Kissinger to see how awful a character he really is and why no one should want to be 'the next kissinger'.
    18 Mar 2013, 03:55 PM Reply Like
  • jamesingram32
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    Are you a comedian, trying to deliver satire, or trying to undermine the image of Chinese people abroad?
    18 Mar 2013, 03:57 PM Reply Like
  • Eric Dee
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    So jamesingram, You think you would not want to be a politician I see. Have you bothered reading "On China?"
    24 Mar 2013, 01:15 PM Reply Like
  • jamesingram32
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    why ask it like that? ' have you bothered'. That's abrasive at best.
    24 Mar 2013, 02:51 PM Reply Like
  • TAS
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    The ChiComs must have already mined the good stuff from their espionage programs on these companies. They are of no use to their strategic economic plans.

     

    Or, perhaps a first step towards the confiscations of these company's China assets.
    17 Mar 2013, 02:49 PM Reply Like
  • Cliff Hilton
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    Media distorts here, do they not? Government distorts here, do they not? Analyst distort here, do they not?
    17 Mar 2013, 06:20 PM Reply Like
  • chriff
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    from the article, it seems that the expose was about apple not honoring warranties the way they would be honored in other countries.

     

    having seen friends buy and try to make use of apple care (extended warranty) for one of their computers, i can't imagine how it could be worse than the old "it has a slight ding in it, apple care is void" argument that they regularly pull on customers in the united states regardless of what is actually wrong with the hardware.

     

    this seems like a non-story to me.
    17 Mar 2013, 06:40 PM Reply Like
  • Sam Liu
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    "apple care is void" argument that they regularly pull on customers in the united states regardless of what is actually wrong with the hardware."

     

    Only once did Apple Store Palo Alto try to pull this tactic on me, Stanford, SF and Beijing treated me extremely well.

     

    Of course, I have mentioned of this to Apple Store managers and they said that in 2009 practices have been addressed at Palo Alto.

     

    AsI listened to Canadian ad O'Reilley, I thought Apple Store, not PC brands.

     

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    17 Mar 2013, 07:38 PM Reply Like
  • Sam Liu
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    "and adopting customer-service policies for Chinese customers that differ from its practices in other countries."

     

    Life is unfair, typically USA customer service is the ,ost shoddy!

     

    Apple warrantee in Cn (I hear) is 2 years minimum to those in USA is one year.
    17 Mar 2013, 08:01 PM Reply Like
  • Sam Liu
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    Thanks Thomas Wyrick in WSJ letters for the content of the Fortune article.
    17 Mar 2013, 08:07 PM Reply Like
  • Sam Liu
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    "the chicken quality at Yum Brands Inc.'s YUM KFC"

     

    The Shanghai government better come clean on the condition of its drinking water.
    17 Mar 2013, 08:13 PM Reply Like
  • Sam Liu
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    "foreign corporations are held to high standards in China and are often used as examples from which local companies can learn."

     

    No comment.
    17 Mar 2013, 08:18 PM Reply Like
  • Sam Liu
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    "with several employees of Apple's resellers"

     

    This is probably a management problem at resellers than at Apple. Afterall, the police closed down those resellers that most resembled actual Apple Stores.

     

    Touche.
    17 Mar 2013, 08:25 PM Reply Like
  • hahaha48
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    This is the full text in Chinese of the broadcast
    you can use your browser and translate it into English
    http://bit.ly/142ykxV

     

    Very detail about many issues and you should read it and judge it for yourself
    18 Mar 2013, 12:36 AM Reply Like
  • Stephen J Melnykevich
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    Why isn't this Market Current being edited or updated based on the now well known knowledge that CCTV participated in manipulation, utilizing celebrities.

     

    SA needs to update this story !!
    18 Mar 2013, 12:11 PM Reply Like
  • Sam Liu
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    "SA needs to update this story !!"

     

    There is justice in iCn--

     

    http://on.wsj.com/ZVE5YY
    Experts say that the hyperbolic reports have given viewers the sense that the broadcaster has an agenda.

     

    “The credibility for CCTV is hitting a bad point,” said Qiao Mu, director of the Center for International Communication Studies at Beijing Foreign Studies University, adding that some believe the government sway has gone overboard in coloring CCTV’s coverage.WSJ "Apple Attack Backfires for State Broadcaster"
    18 Mar 2013, 04:34 PM Reply Like
  • jamesingram32
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    Does this story have any significance on telling us about the success or lack of success of Tim Cook's efforts at negotiation with China Mobile?
    19 Mar 2013, 04:57 AM Reply Like
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