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BlackBerry (BBRY -6.9%) plummets as the WSJ reports AT&T (T) "doesn't appear to be highlighting" the Z10 on its launch day, or "giving it prominent shelf space at its stores." The paper observes "fewer than 20 people" arrived at two Manhattan AT&T stores to see the Z10, and that a San Francisco store chose to display it "at a back corner of the store, away from a large sign advertising the iPhone 5." (earlier)
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  • LYogi
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    no big deal. BB's future, as well as that of every phone manufacturer lie more on a global vs. American landscape.
    22 Mar 2013, 02:58 PM Reply Like
  • bgold1955
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    Both actually.
    22 Mar 2013, 03:01 PM Reply Like
  • Eric Dee
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    LYogiGee, are you talking about Global marketing? If you aren't, you should be! BBRY is pretty much out of any market. AAPL and Android have and will pretty much see to that.
    22 Mar 2013, 03:18 PM Reply Like
  • rrosey2
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    Wherever blackberries grow in the Winter
    22 Mar 2013, 03:19 PM Reply Like
  • Greggebhardt
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    Sorry to pop your bubble but with out the USA on board, Blackberry is never be relevant.
    22 Mar 2013, 04:41 PM Reply Like
  • LYogi
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    In that case the US may just be the last market to come to the realization that BB10 is a superior product/platform
    22 Mar 2013, 09:08 PM Reply Like
  • grumbles
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    thats right the usa is the center of the universe and everything revolves around it.
    22 Mar 2013, 10:43 PM Reply Like
  • gwynfryn
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    This reminds me of the woman in Dallas who was complaining about the heat, and who, when I suggested she take a holiday somewhere cooler, replied "Won't do any good; Texas is hot all over this time of year"!

     

    Is it still true that only 3% of Yanks hold passports? It might explain the ridiculously parochial attitudes on display here...
    23 Mar 2013, 09:57 AM Reply Like
  • i810eggs
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    darling, outside of the nice typing features, give us one reason to buy into the Blackberry ecosystem over iPhone and Android. You were probably a huge fan of the Palm Treo.
    24 Mar 2013, 02:29 PM Reply Like
  • Loon-a-tick
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    Look...thats a big drop but everyone expects the price to fall in advance to the quarter report. Lots of people made money yesterday and they decided to sell. So go ahead and run...put your profits in your pockets and pay 50% tax ...
    There has been buyers all the way down.
    22 Mar 2013, 03:01 PM Reply Like
  • Spaceman Spliff
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    "put your profits in your pockets and pay 50% tax."

     

    @Loon-a-tick
    regardless of your tax bracket, profit is profit! would you prefer to take a loss and not pay any tax?
    24 Mar 2013, 03:21 PM Reply Like
  • gwynfryn
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    Sp, it looks to me that many are so averse to paying taxes (why? to me it means I'm making money) that they do appear to prefer taking a loss. Isn't it marvelous what a lifetime of "supply side" propaganda can achieve?
    26 Mar 2013, 12:25 PM Reply Like
  • Tack
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    RIMM's (BBRY) future value and what a goose lays have a lot in common.
    22 Mar 2013, 03:04 PM Reply Like
  • Tufenk
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    Who goes shopping on a Friday afternoon on Spring break?
    22 Mar 2013, 03:07 PM Reply Like
  • StudentofMarkets
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    That's just it; no matter how hard BlackBerry tries, alliance between Apple and carriers here in the US will not let BB succeed. I went to Minneapolis, MN (one state that is (was) pro-BB), and there was no enthusiasm what-so-ever from the staff at ATT; and ATT did not even take the effort to train the staff. I mean, if carriers are really eagar for diversity in their smartphone offerings, they should really work with manufacturers like BB to get the word out there. Hardly anyone I know even knew ATT is to offer Z10 devices today.
    22 Mar 2013, 03:08 PM Reply Like
  • Herr Hansa
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    Call volume is accelerating, though Put volume is almost keeping pace overall. Nearly one to one ratio. The options players are having a tug of war.
    22 Mar 2013, 03:12 PM Reply Like
  • Herr Hansa
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    Almost 425k options volume today on BBRY. Puts slightly ahead of Calls in overall volume. Over 130k options traded today after this news story broke.
    22 Mar 2013, 04:05 PM Reply Like
  • Eric Dee
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    And next to this article is a link stating "Samsung is Well Positioned to Dominate the Smartphone Market." What do you expect from a company that goes into hibernation for 2+ years and delays and delays intro of new products so long.
    22 Mar 2013, 03:16 PM Reply Like
  • LoganSix
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    Maybe they were just over at the Best Buy store?

     

    http://bit.ly/WJNtzY
    22 Mar 2013, 03:16 PM Reply Like
  • Whitehawk
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    Still waiting for someone to outline the top 3-5 differentiators that the Z10/Q10 will offer buyers that will ignite a wave of switching brands and mass buying, which is what BBRY needs to escape being just another Nokia and BB10 models the Nokia Lumia line.
    22 Mar 2013, 03:20 PM Reply Like
  • Herr Hansa
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    Are there 3 to 5 differences between any two smartphones that are enough to get anyone to switch brands?
    22 Mar 2013, 03:33 PM Reply Like
  • Whitehawk
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    I bought an Android tablet over an iPad based on several clear differentiators, and I'm a long-time Appl user. So yes. Your comment (somewhat facetious?) would imply that BBRY has no chance. C'mon folks: someone please provide me with a solid defendable list.
    22 Mar 2013, 03:38 PM Reply Like
  • Herr Hansa
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    I simply do not feel that the average end user has 3 to 5 distinct features that would sway them towards any smartphone. Customer loyalty, in the various data representations I have seen, suggests barely better than 2 out of 3 end users remain loyal to any particular mobile phone. So that implies that 1 out of 3 current smartphone users might consider getting a BlackBerry Z10 or Q10. It also implies that 2 out of 3 current BlackBerry BB5, BB6, and BB7 users may upgrade to a BB10 device at some point in the future. If only it was that simple. ;)

     

    Style, shape, size, colour, finish are still important considerations for end users. The lack of a home button gives the Z10 a modern look, which may attract some users, but may intimidate others. Replacing a battery, and adding memory are easy to do on a Z10, though the same could be said of many other smartphones. The ability to organize messages and quickly access messages could be attractive to some individuals, especially those who get heavy message traffic each day. The brand name BlackBerry could attract some users who want to be seen as alternative, or as someone not blindly following along like a sheep.

     

    Seriously, smartphones are all slab screens now. There is little to differentiate one from another. I suspect the Q10 may see more interest, because some end users really do want a physical keyboard. Few companies offer a premium quality smartphone with a physical keyboard.
    22 Mar 2013, 03:49 PM Reply Like
  • Whitehawk
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    Hmmm, your sales pitch could use some work. Are you long the stock? (Disclosure: I'm neither long nor short, just looking for solid differentiators, which I do think even an average user makes a discrimination on. We're talking about an average user of a blackberry, not a cheap faux smartphone.)
    22 Mar 2013, 04:07 PM Reply Like
  • Herr Hansa
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    I use a BlackBerry 9930 every day, but I am not "in luv" with any company. I do own shares in BlackBerry (BBRY). I do not recommend that other people buy shares in the company, since the volume of open interest and the number of options plays makes share prices extremely volatile.

     

    Seriously, there is so little difference between smartphones that choices are getting closer to personal taste preferences. Obviously some buyers are tech (spec) geeks, some are app horders, but the average person just wants to get on the internet, check some messages, and perhaps try a few diversions (games, music, videos). Most people do not "need" a smartphone, but they "want" a smartphone. Want is addressed in style and fashion, and not in features that nearly all smartphones possess. Marketing and advertising are hugely important factors in the success of smartphones.

     

    Historically BlackBerry users have shown a bias towards messaging. BBM has hooked in some users, but even data from the company shows that many users do not use BBM. There are over 75 million existing BlackBerry users, but only a portion will upgrade to BB10 devices. BlackBerry need to attract new users. Unfortunately the release of a premium high priced BB10 flagship, does not address the large portion of lower priced BB6 and BB7 users, nor does it attract feature phone users to switch up to a smartphone.
    22 Mar 2013, 04:21 PM Reply Like
  • Andreas Hopf
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    I don't own a Blackberry, but bought 20.000 RIMM at €9,21 last year, pertaining to the second proposition in Ashraf's article this evening, because I like turnaround stories; despite the fact that RiM/Blackberry has a CEO who failed epically when driving Germany's last mobile phone brand Siemens Mobile into the ground years ago.

     

    I see many Blackberry Bold users in the 1st class sections of trains and in airport lounges. Funnily, many have an iPhone as accompaniment, for whatever reason; maybe no BYOD at work, maybe those popular apps - I don't know. Because I'm buying and selling BBRY, NOK, etc. I always ask people when traveling, why they use such and such device. With Blackberries, it's always 1. it was given to me by my employer 2. I still like a physical keyboard 3. because not everybody else has one.

     

    The latter comment makes me think that Blackberry is some kind of Saab or Volvo (now sadly defunct); a non-standard device that elevates one above the mass or, rather, sidelines one from the mass to some smart but quirky outsider position. People who fall into category 3 are valiant supporters, fans, like you would find them for life behind ManU or Barça or similar. These people also like to write - e-mails and text messages, like the typical UK chav likes to do also. For certain groups of people, it's almost a cultural code using a Blackberry. But, those weaned on iPhones and then Android devices - why should they desire to switch OS in droves? Those accountants, lawyers, administrators on trains and planes have their Blackberry Bold and may upgrade to the Q10 if it is ever released. But with Samsung marketing KNOX to these professions and businesses with a budget that Mr. Heins cannot muster, I wonder.

     

    From consumer research, I know how people claim to embrace change. But, once faced with doing so, they most often stay on their home turf. You are an Audi or BMW type of person. An Adidas or Nike guy. Ad infinitum.
    22 Mar 2013, 05:13 PM Reply Like
  • wmateri
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    Whitehawk, I suspect that it would be near impossible to convince you that there could be three BB10 features that would matter enough to you to select BB. However, I'll try listing a few in the hope that you might be open-minded. Many other past postings have done a better job of this than I could hope to do, but here I go (in no particular order):
    1) Best predictive touch keyboard available. Not only works in mutliple languages, but learns from your selections and typing. Also adjusts position of individual keys according to your normal typing pattern to improve your speed. Really important if your typing a lot of email, texts or tweets.
    2) Highest level of HTML5 support available in a mobile browser (actually better than almost any browser available even on PCs). Although this doesn't mean a lot now, it will become increasingly important over the next few years in allowing independence from being tied to any one OS.
    3) Best RT(realtime)-OS available on any mobile device with over 20 years of experience in micro-kerneled architecture. This means that the system is truly multi-tasking and there is no need to close one app to open another. In fact apps continue working in the background even when you switch to another one.
    4) DocsToGo support for MS-files from Word, Powerpoint and Excel. Coupled with HDMI port, you can easily do client presentations with some pizazz.
    5) Very fast browser (one of the fastest) even while running on only a dual core (clearly this will improve).
    6) No Home button. This might not seem like an advantage to everyone but, once you've used it for a little bit, it's clear that it's a better way to organize an OS. Microsoft and Win8 could learn something from the BB10 swipe interface.
    7) OS-level separation of Personal and Work spaces on the phone. Although many others will claim that they can offer an equivalent software fix on top of the OS, there is simply no way the security can be as good as the kernel-level security of BB10. This means you can have a BYOD device equivalent to an iPhone or Samsung SIV yet still have BB's kernel-level security for your corporate needs. A huge plus in my mind.
    8) Removable and replaceable battery for extending use when you really need it.
    9) Innovative camera that takes multiple pictures with every click, so you can select which one was best over a one-second (I believe) time frame.
    10) The Hub centralizes access to email, text, Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn and other social networking systems bringing everything together in one app so you don't have to constantly change apps to see what's going on in all of your social spheres. Also Peek allows you to quickly see new messages in the Hub (which continues operating in the background thanks to BB10's multitasking capability) without closing whatever you're doing.

     

    Well there's a few of the many differentiators. Now, if your primary decision point was that you have to have iTunes and the Apple ecosystem on your phone, well then you may not want to buy the Z10. But I think there will be (and already have been) a number of mobile users who will really like what BB10 has to offer. And I believe the system and its publicity will improve dramatically over the next few months.
    22 Mar 2013, 07:49 PM Reply Like
  • kmi
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    Whitehawk -

     

    I prefer BB to competitors products for several reasons, some of which follow:

     

    Security: Blackberry is the best. I may not be a defense contractor but I see no reason to expose my personal data to the world. Apple just encountered yet another hack http://engt.co/11rmSIi and Android is rife.

     

    Social: I don't want social all freaking over my phone. Windows tile in particular UI is data porous. You put your phone down on a table and everyone sitting there knows everything about you instantly.

     

    Multitasking: Blackberry's older products and the QNX OS do this awesomely. Further, the QNX kernal is as powerful as many desktop OS products. HDMI out + peripherals on a smartphone with cloud data storage is my ultimate use case scenario. (side note: I am highly intrigued by Firefox OS and Ubuntu's mobile efforts, but these are both still developing)

     

    My last point is this: virtually the entire case against Blackberry as a modern OS is about its lack of apps. Of which I don't use many. If someone lives and dies by some assortment of esoteric apps that perform unique functions that they deem essential to their day, that may be a good reason not to go to BB, but I'm not sure that applies to the majority of folks.
    22 Mar 2013, 07:55 PM Reply Like
  • Herr Hansa
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    Apple iTunes syncs with BB7 and BB6 older BlackBerry devices. Why would it not sync your music with BB10 devices?
    22 Mar 2013, 09:05 PM Reply Like
  • wmateri
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    Sorry, Herr Hansa, iTunes synching was a bad example. What I meant was that if there was some single app available on only one (non-BB) platform that you simply had to have, then obviously the BB10 wouldn't be for you. The same point was made by kmi. But it is becoming increasingly more difficult to find such apps that have no BB10 equivalent, though there are still some out there.
    22 Mar 2013, 10:26 PM Reply Like
  • winter_hat
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    Is that the same AT&T that sold out of online preorders in a day and a half?
    22 Mar 2013, 03:20 PM Reply Like
  • chazz1954
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    This is a bonus for us BB investors, we can all load up with more shares and make lots of money !!! Go Z10
    22 Mar 2013, 03:27 PM Reply Like
  • LF_2222
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    And I'm sure this has NOTHING to do with the pressure that Crapple and Cramsome have to do with putting pressure on AT&T to keep their own phones in the forefront. Yeah right!!
    22 Mar 2013, 03:27 PM Reply Like
  • Andreas Hopf
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    I would think that the massive marketing Samsung does on their KNOX feature for businesses plays a pivotal role.
    22 Mar 2013, 03:30 PM Reply Like
  • zibzulanderim
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    People still think phone market like it's the 90s. The phone market now resembles the car market. The guy who buys a Mustang and a Ford F150 truck have different uses for their product.

     

    BBRY means enterprise and security. Apple means games and fun apps. Android means poor people. All platforms can live together.
    22 Mar 2013, 03:31 PM Reply Like
  • chopchop0
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    Yet my Samsung Galaxy Note 2 costs more than IPhone 5 on contract.

     

    Food for thought (or maybe Im just feeding a troll)
    23 Mar 2013, 12:25 AM Reply Like
  • milkmantony
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    Corporate America don't stand in line to buy BB, they place the orders through their account reps and it gets shipped to their doors. Don't discount that too people. Its a good phone with rock solid security that companies are looking for. Plus with millions $$$ of BB infrastructure investment, its not going to go away anytime soon.
    22 Mar 2013, 03:34 PM Reply Like
  • StudentofMarkets
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    I really hope this is the case. Frankly all I've been hearing recently are companies not looking to support BB10 just because they do not want to expenditure to refresh BES servers...
    22 Mar 2013, 03:39 PM Reply Like
  • Tyson2008
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    Firstly, we all know BB will have an uphill battle in the US -- partly their fault (recent history), partly american predjudice -- of which there is certainly plenty! The WSJ and the 2 above mention AT&T stores are just one small example of an uneven playing field.

     

    The anti BB sentiment will take a while to overcome -- most of you folks have not had the chance to try one out so far, so I expect a slow gain for BB as people actually get them into their hands and try them out. Then word spreads, and folks will see for themselves how different and superior BBZ10 really is. After that who wants second best?

     

    Incidently, being long BB doesn't make one a "shill", any more than being long AAPL does.
    22 Mar 2013, 03:51 PM Reply Like
  • bbryuser
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    so with the stores determined not to make sales easy for bbry there are still some very very determined customers hunting down the product because they know it is good. Phones selling even without hype and clear negative hurdles talk about Trade agreements here? Gosh it sounds like store vs customer wanting the phone....store hiding the phone and customer still tracking it down even though customer is very busy? A sale is a sale why obfuscate things . HEADLINE BBRY SELLING despite being hidden and without hype think how bbry would do if there were hype and proper store placement.
    22 Mar 2013, 04:47 PM Reply Like
  • grumbles
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    most us media are anti bb because it is not an american company.sf And ny are apple towns, just for convience pick the two places that are not strong bb, there are thousands of other stores.
    22 Mar 2013, 03:52 PM Reply Like
  • bbryuser
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    desperate measures call for store to hide product and make it really really hard for the customer to find...
    22 Mar 2013, 04:48 PM Reply Like
  • htman99
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    Most people don't shop for phones on a friday morning in the store...The people that want this phone are either working, in class or ordering it online.
    22 Mar 2013, 03:58 PM Reply Like
  • sean4329hunt
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    Did anyone really think there would be lines for the BB10? BlackBerry users are smart, busy people, which happens to be the exact opposite of the people lining up to buy an Iphone. They will buy at their convenience.
    22 Mar 2013, 04:02 PM Reply Like
  • slcUTAH
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    sean-

     

    I agree with you in a way. The phone became available at mid-night for the first time. The morning came and people went to work. It is reasonable why BB did not sell briskly during working hours or after mid-night. The timing of the WSJ announcement was executed perfectly to smack down the share price. The WSJ achieved its mission. This is the buddy system at its best. As a result, the share price plummeted as the scary cats jumped ship. I ask, why didn't the WSJ wait for Monday to see how the weekend went?

     

    Anyways, I'm going to go to the AT&T store in a few minutes that I called 3 weeks ago (to find out if people were calling in for BB info- they said people were calling and dropping by) to snoop around and see whats going on. FWIW I'll report my findings in an hour or two.

     

    -Cheers!
    22 Mar 2013, 04:21 PM Reply Like
  • bbryuser
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    Is it that A T and T wants sales but only if it isn't bbry? A Sale is a sale so promote the product people! other take is phones are selling even if hidden on lowest shelf way at the back and without hype . How many products can do this? So phones are selling even without hype and with stores hidng product to confuse customer. Interesting.
    22 Mar 2013, 04:38 PM Reply Like
  • bbryuser
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    so phone is selling to a few very very determined folks even with wsj negative stores refusing to promote product and trying to hide it So phones selling despite all the hurdles. What is it about the phone that makes people so determined to hunt it down even when store is playing peek a boo...no see me with the phones? That and the long long approval process. A sale is a sale and everything I hear is that it is a good product. So no hype but some folks are buying even without hype....and product being hidden grudgingly at the back of the store or still out on the truck not yet unloaded so it can be ferried back...phone is STILL selling. Gosh the little company that stubbornly refuses to die. as for Mr Mkt up four percent down eight percent not exactly sane.
    22 Mar 2013, 04:41 PM Reply Like
  • slcUTAH
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    OK. As I mentioned above I visited the AT&T store. The Z10 phone was on display in the far back wall of the store to the back-right of the counter. The Z10 was in between on older BB phone and an Apple 4. The store displays their devices all around the store at the perimeter. The center of the store/showroom is all open. A poster featuring the Z10 and Alicia Keys was displayed above the Z10. No other BB poster/sign was at the store nor at the storefront. Apple also had one poster and the same size as the Z10 poster.

     

    I asked the manager if they had sold any Z10s today (as of my arrival at 2:00 pm pt) and he said no. Not one. I asked how the pre-orders went and he said better than what they had anticipated. The manager struggled while showing me how the alarm clock feature worked and had difficulties with swiping at first. Then he was fluid with his presentation. According to him training was conducted on-line only. The BB people went to the bigger cities. He went on to explain all of the functions that the phone offers. He mentioned his personal phone is a Samsung SIII and he is going to the Z10 next month. I asked him if he thinks the Z10 will flop and he said "NO WAY" but he did say that sells will pick up gradually in the short term in his opinion as more people find out about the phone. He mentioned that he thinks that the Z10 is the beginning of a whole new way for smartphones and he expects other companies to copy.

     

    As I was leaving the store (2:20) I counted 5 people checking out the Z10 while an employee demonstrated.

     

    -Cheers.
    22 Mar 2013, 05:40 PM Reply Like
  • easyboss
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    AT&T do not promote anything, their staff are order takers, they do not sell, that is the reason they need exclusives otherwise they
    would be out of business.
    22 Mar 2013, 04:05 PM Reply Like
  • bbryuser
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    Yowzer. Interesting long long long process for testing and then per random samples way less than ideal in store placement. Interesting.
    However corporate users will have other ways to order than walk into store and many folks are working.
    Keep in mind book value.
    It will be in bbrys interest to deal with this.
    Very emotional market.
    However other competitor product launches were what of late? Also lackluster? I am looking to see improvement to btm line and ongoing projections. bbry hs been silent for too long. peoples contracts do come up at different times. But what is with the poor shelf placement?
    22 Mar 2013, 04:34 PM Reply Like
  • WATERLOO JOE
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    What creditably goes with the reports on shelf placement, I wonder if there were enough to put on shelves as with all the talk of pre sales the stores may have had only the display model to show as what was the case on launches in a lot of stores on opening day due the fact the rest were sold., Blackberry spread the supply around to keep all locations as happy as possible . Still here in this area the stores sales are 2 BB's to one Iphone
    22 Mar 2013, 06:34 PM Reply Like
  • CanuckleHead61
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    I find it very fascinating, and amusing that everyone is willing to place so much faith in news reports (good or bad) about Blackberry. From what I have read, with a few exceptions, most of the writers and analysts are simply putting their own spin on the information available. Some distort the facts, some conveniently omit figures, and some outright lie. Until a few years ago, Blackberry was considered to be a very well built phone, reliable and they provided a very secure network for those who needed it. The refusal of previous management to look in the rear view mirror during the race caused the company to be where they are today. I personally doubt if they can get back to where they once were with all of the options available today, but I do believe they can succeed. Their new phones are " stylish, trendy and hip" but still offer security that so far (imho) is unmatched.
    So until Mr. Heins announces the numbers, the writers and analysts will continue to try and win you over to whatever side is scratching their back that particular day. But to those who outright lie.. remember this : “Anyone who doesn’t take truth seriously in small matters cannot be trusted in large ones, either.”
    22 Mar 2013, 04:57 PM Reply Like
  • eibrahim
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    They're not ready for the awesomeness! They're too scared to be the 1st to admit that they already own a dull device ;)

     

    Word to mouth will catch on.

     

    Stay loooooooooooooooooong
    22 Mar 2013, 05:27 PM Reply Like
  • WATERLOO JOE
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    From Facebook Teen
    Awesome phone. Fast, smooth, sexy looking, super fast browser, wicked keyboard, i mean it predicts everything you ate trying to type, adapts to your style of writing and the predictive text is just incredible. Makes for super fast typing. I mean really fast. And the HUB is just awesome, a one stop place for all your messages and can filter for each account. No more in and out folders to go to an account its all there in the hub. The best phone on the market right now hands down. I hope you guys in the USA live as much as we do. Give it a try you won't be disappointed. As of today 100,000 apps and they are growing everyday. AT&T ordered1 million units for the US launch. Their pre orders were sold out. That's says the US is ready the z10.
    22 Mar 2013, 05:40 PM Reply Like
  • WATERLOO JOE
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    FYI when i bought my Z10 on the launch in Canada there were no long line ups ,yet sales in this and other countries are at record levels up to 50 % more, The consumer today evolves at a much more rapid pace than in the years gone by, when they were in lines to buy anything. They are smarter ,more soficticated consumers ,that know what to believe and do not waste time or effort on Bull.
    Where are the media reports about Samsung sales , There must be something about Blackberry that has them fearful. Reports were out about no lineups yesterday in an effort to foil any Positivity.
    Does the media not realize that when you Knock anything it is actually a Boost , so we should Thank them for all the free press which saves Blackberry in advertising expenditures . All said Blackberry counted on 20% of the USA phone market and it will retain it's share. With the world market approaching 1.5 billion over the next 2 years more double of todays market i don't think there will be any problem carving a healthy chunck of that for the new 10's either.
    22 Mar 2013, 06:12 PM Reply Like
  • Rufusy
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    on launch day in Canada, I was in Oakville and was at the rogers when it opened. there was myself and 2 others, 1 forgot his password on his phone, rogers guy couldn't help :( . the other was picking up his z10 pre order and I bought it there.

     

    No line ups in Canada either but the phone seemed to have sold here quite well
    22 Mar 2013, 06:45 PM Reply Like
  • gchaput
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    This story reveals less about BBRY and Z10 than it reveals about AT&T. It is obvious once more that AT&T and other USA telcos are stuck with huge iPhone inventories that are not selling because of Samsung. The last thing AT&T wants is another phone to prevent them from liquidating their bloated Apple inventory stocks. Maybe we should expect large inventory write-downs by the telcos in the next few months.
    22 Mar 2013, 07:32 PM Reply Like
  • usajordi
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    Timing of the bad news was in line with the wish to see the stock tank!
    Some smart people organized the follow through and possibly made many millions today. Let's see how shares open on Monday. We should know then if today actions where totally intentional or not.
    23 Mar 2013, 08:17 AM Reply Like
  • Herr Hansa
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    Of course it was intentional. That hack job of an article even referred to the company frequently by the old corporate name of Research In Motion. I'm almost surprised they didn't get the stock symbol wrong.

     

    About 1/3 of the options traded that day came after that news story. That is quite the volume jump so close to the end of the trading day. Someone was worried about not being able to unload their options.
    23 Mar 2013, 02:26 PM Reply Like
  • Matthew Dow
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    amazing how stories like this make a stock tumble 7%. Blackberry has currently 3% market share for smartphones sold in Q4 2012. So of course it won't get prominent floor space, even with a big launch. Think about it. The point here, is that if the product is good (which all signs show it is really good..), and they managed to maintain their loyal long term customer base and convince just a few to come back - e.g. go to 5-10% market share, then the stock doubles. Not much more to go down, and a long way it can go up, so I'm long this one on the risk/reward profile I see here. But seriously I hope nobody thinks they are about to get 20 or 30% market share, maybe in a few years it could go that way, nobody knows, but don't speculate about ridiculous assumptions like that in the near term.
    23 Mar 2013, 08:30 AM Reply Like
  • Gtg007
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    I agree with your thinking 100%
    24 Mar 2013, 02:41 PM Reply Like
  • eibrahim
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    If Blackberry had 1 Blackberry Store in a city then yes, you would get the lineups and they would be more evident. Fact is that, in Canada, the phones were on sale EVERYWHERE so calling a few locations is just not enough data. Just lazy. Now if you want to know how to actually perform a effective and unbiased study, you may want to get schooled by our friend Michael Collins. He did a FANTASTIC job to disprove the negatrons and you can't argue the numbers.

     

    http://seekingalpha.co...

     

    The WSG should've done a better job in reporting on this story on a wider scale because the USA is quite a large country compared to the UK and look at how much Michael Collins did. Comparably they should have also taken into account the scale of the population of the 2 countries.

     

    One store in San Frandisco probably has a lot of iphones in stock to get rid of first before moving the new Z10. Them keeping it in the back is a sign that they're afraid that they won't sell their existing iStock or Roids. Most Z10 devices sold were to people new to the brand. You think retailers don't know that? ;)

     

    Personally, if i were a retailer and i knew that a new phone coming out was going to prevent me from liquidating my existing stock, i would probably do the same thing.

     

    Words are just one part of the equation, What Michael Collins has shown in his article is that rapport, probing questions, facial expressions, tone and body language are instrumental in making a decision.

     

    WSG just mailed this one in.

     

    This is
    23 Mar 2013, 09:22 AM Reply Like
  • winter_hat
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    Don't worry guys. We may be smug, but we aren't completely stupid. The phone is amazing in look, feel, and function. Everyone who has it, loves it. And, any investor who owns one, stops worrying. I understand a great phone does not make a successful launch, but this BB10 OS is truly a masterpiece. And it's brand new! Wait for some tweaks. Word of mouth, seeing it in action, advertising....it will sell many, many millions.
    23 Mar 2013, 04:56 PM Reply Like
  • fjfisher 601
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    The WSJ is again way out of touch for reasons only they know. From one of the forums today- and most comments I am seeing are similar- not doubt with the amount of stock shorting, someone stands to gain if they "fail" in the sort run:

     

    "Ok people here's the deal. Unlike the Wall Street Journal and this guy, I actually did my homework. I called 50 AT&T stores in random zip codes as well as 10 from major zip codes like Boston, NYC etc. In all honesty the responses I received were mixed. Some stores had about 10 phones in stock and only sold a couple so far. Some stores had several hundred phones in stock and sold 300+ today. Some stores were even sold out. Bottom line is that this stock trades on news and the news got it wrong - the phone is a hit. No it's not selling out like the iPhone, but then again BBRY isn't trading at a market cap of $450 billion either. I have never been more excited for a stock that I own to go down before. I just increased my position by 1000 shares. This is stupid easy money. Good luck to anyone that is short. Disclosure: I am long AAPL and BBRY."
    25 Mar 2013, 04:54 AM Reply Like
  • Andreas Hopf
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    BBRY falls faster, already -7% in Europe at 10:00 CET. On business TV at airport, report said sales worldwide are only 1/3 of what was predicted. If true, that would be terrible. The 28th will be a decisive day.
    25 Mar 2013, 05:39 AM Reply Like
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