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Boeing (BA -0.1%) has a filed flight plan for a 787 test flight today. The company is calling...

Boeing (BA -0.1%) has a filed flight plan for a 787 test flight today. The company is calling the flight a normal functional check, with a certification flight on the new battery system to take place in coming days.
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  • thomas85225
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    The Ion-Battery should be tested on company fleet of golf carts and not on a 244 millions dollars aicrafts with 200,000 pound of fuels
    or hook up to the Boeing HQ Ahicago A/C units


    Airbus scraps battery plans after Boeing's 787 struggles


    The FAA has been aware of the potential flammability of lithium-ion batteries for years.
    Still, when the agency was certifying the 787 for flight operation, it issued special conditions in 2007 for lithium-ion battery installations on the 787
    25 Mar 2013, 04:48 PM Reply Like
  • thomas85225
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    Has the Scientific Properties of Lithium Ion Batteries that similar to Nitroglycerin, or solid rocket has change over night!
    Donald R. Sadoway, a materials chemistry professor at M.I.T. “I am not hearing anything about how to make that battery fire-resistant.”
    Boeing has been very lucky so far! None of the 787 was over the ocean at the time the Lithium Ion Batteries got fire! (Swiss Air flight 111)
    There is NO Fire Extinguisher that can put out a Lithium-ion batteries fire on board an aircraft!
    In the past aircraft have used bleed air cooling but for their LRU, the 787 is using LIQUID COOLING
    I have yet to see any liquid coolant lines going to the lithium-ion battery, or vent or drain tune or fire deflection on the aft battery or a fire proof LRUs battery box that been that requirement for the last 30 years!
    In 2007 The FAA the US Federal Aviation Administration voiced its concerns about the use of lithium ion batteries and proposed special condition for 787-8.
    DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, Federal Aviation Administration, 14 CFR Part 25
    [Docket No. NM375 Special Conditions No. 25-07-10-SC]
    Airbus, Cessna, Gulf Stream will not use Ion battery
    Boeing and NTSB have known about Lithium-ion battery in 2007 when a Cessna Citation CJ4 Citations catch fire and the FAA issued an emergency AD, without all the herding ect and the month of delays to remove the Lithium-ion battery
    The New York Times is calling for a investing into Boeing and FAA since they knew about the problems before the batteries fire
    Boeing and the FAA have know about the lithium-ion batteries since 2007
    Boeing says it has tested the fix for the ion battery for 200,000 hours is really the number of time the Power Point Presentation has been given.
    Because the aircraft would need its FAA Mandatory “C” and ‘D” check to stay in service if it had 200,000 hours on it!
    The Lockheed C-130 J batteries are located in the Nose Wheel Well were its cool and always from the crews compartment!
    May Boeing CEO Jim McNerney (formerly of GE and 3M) can get Boeing a discount on 3M Fire Proof Duct Tape to wrap the 787 batteries box with.
    I can wait to see Boeing back up plan for their Ion-batteries problems
    The backup plan B and C aka the 777-100 and 777-X ,
    Boeing will fix the problems after its throw a few more billions at the problems
    Maybe Boeing could install a 747-8 BBJ fireplace and Chimney to vent the outside the cabin in the first class section and place the two Ion batteries in the fire place in the first class section.
    Where is all the aircraft industry approval from all the existing battlers company that builds lithium ion batteries at?
    Where is the Chemistry Engineer statement on Lithium Ion Batteries at?
    Where is the Electrical Load Engineer statement that says the design of the 787 power need can be meet by existing 787 electric systems without overloading the electric system and setting the batteries on Fire and the 12 to 24 months of grounding and Flight Testing to get the FAA form 8110-3
    The energy provided by the cell is equal to the voltage times the charge. Each gram of lithium represents Faraday's constant/6.941 or 13 901 coulombs. For a voltage of 3 V, this gives 41.7 kJ per gram of lithium, or 11.6 kWh per kg. This is a bit more than the heat of combustion of gasoline, but does not take into account all the other materials that go into a lithium battery and which make lithium batteries many times heavier per unit of energy.
    All this was original requirement for the 787 in 2003 for Boeing to receive the 787 Aircraft Type Certificate the first time!
    Lithium-ion batteries defects. Are sensitive to manufacturing flaws.
    CEO Jim McNerney only has two years left before his retirement from Boeing maybe the Boeing stock holder will loan CEO James McNerney an C-17 and given him he’s Golden Parachute power by Lithium-Ion Batteries over one of the world 27 active volcano’s
    Also Boeing has a class action lawsuits and whistle blower for false and
    miss leading statement about the 787-8


    The next NTSB hearing is April and the meet with the US congress has been delay
    Boeing has 200 lobbyists in Washington dc
    25 Mar 2013, 04:49 PM Reply Like
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