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More on the Goldman downgrade of Apple (AAPL): Believing an imminent dividend hike/share...

More on the Goldman downgrade of Apple (AAPL): Believing an imminent dividend hike/share repurchase could set a floor under the stock price, Goldman is less optimistic about the "timing and impact" of the next product cycle - needed if the stock is going to be an outperformer over the coming year. "The stock's upside potential should be more limited than we previously anticipated." Shares +0.25% premarket.
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  • bdy
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    Where were they when AAPL was 700? Probably a good time to buy soon based on this information.
    2 Apr 2013, 07:47 AM Reply Like
  • raymondinperth
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    yes, if there are more downgrades , i will borrow to buy AAPL.
    2 Apr 2013, 07:58 AM Reply Like
  • jpintoctr
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    I fully agree with you
    2 Apr 2013, 08:15 AM Reply Like
  • kwm3
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    No analyst I've ever read calls tops, and it's always a good time to buy long.
    2 Apr 2013, 08:38 AM Reply Like
  • scott trader
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    Most of these over compensated silk tied fund managers are insider traders that havent gotten caught......yet....
    2 Apr 2013, 11:15 AM Reply Like
  • raymondinperth
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    What is the use of upgrading when AAPL is high and downgrading when AAPL is low. This is something even a primary school student can do .
    2 Apr 2013, 07:49 AM Reply Like
  • bmwr1200c
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    thats called managing other people's money and charging a hefty fee for it
    2 Apr 2013, 08:06 AM Reply Like
  • css1971
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    *Think* about it. Who on earth do you think is selling to you at the top and buying from you at the bottom? Companies like Goldman Sachs or other similar operations perhaps?

     

    Oh that would be unethical? Wake up and smell the coffee. You guys seriously shouldn't be anywhere near a market. Go buy tracker funds or you'll end up as their meat and drink.
    2 Apr 2013, 08:55 AM Reply Like
  • bmwr1200c
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    whats there to think - Stick to these two rules and you would do just fine in the stock market.
    1. Do not buy when the analysts are screening buy buy buy - if you happen to own the stock they are screening to buy then sell it and sit on cash.

     

    2. Do not sell it when they are shouting sell sell .... if you own then do nothing. If you are sitting on cash then this is the time to put that cash to work.
    If you follow any other rule than above two yes you will loose shirt in this market pretty quickly.
    2 Apr 2013, 11:57 AM Reply Like
  • Rummeljordan
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    Yeah, little late for the downgrade party I'd say.
    2 Apr 2013, 07:52 AM Reply Like
  • kakakaka
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    When GSA downgrades it means they will ask their clients to sell but will start buying themselves. They have done it few times in the recent past and made money for themselves at the expense of their clients......
    2 Apr 2013, 07:56 AM Reply Like
  • Jhalgren
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    This is how John Paulson got rich--remember, he bet on MBS defaults and reaped in millions. Now GMS is pushing a sell on Apple so they can reap benefits as well, indeed, smell the coffee! These guys control the planet and they are the real losers in life but not from a financial position. So the key is to 'hold' Apple till the cows come home, spread this news, and reap the same rewards as GMS. Otherwise, they stay in control--they're Super Jerks! Good thing Apple has lots of cash--too bad they cannot file a suit against GMS for deceptive securities practices? Someone may know more than I on this legal matter. Anyone have ideas on how to out-play GMS?
    2 Apr 2013, 10:25 AM Reply Like
  • velvetbulldozer
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    why is aapl the only stock that is held to those high morals ?
    2 Apr 2013, 07:58 AM Reply Like
  • milehr
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    Goldman's short memory play.
    2 Apr 2013, 08:08 AM Reply Like
  • gless3940
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    Sometimes hindsight isn't even 20/20.
    2 Apr 2013, 08:12 AM Reply Like
  • jpintoctr
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    I am amazed how these "investment" banks are so frivolous, light and always wrong. They recommended Apple when was at 600+ and now at 430-+ they downgraded. The industry is so untrustworthy.
    This is the time to buy.
    2 Apr 2013, 08:19 AM Reply Like
  • Corm38
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    Apple stock holders are weak. Lol The stock can't dive if you don't sell....
    2 Apr 2013, 08:23 AM Reply Like
  • JUDOKA
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    Does anyone trust this firm anymore?Go ahead;raise your hands.
    2 Apr 2013, 08:44 AM Reply Like
  • bmwr1200c
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    I love AAPL products and company pre / post Jobs. I remember seeing a video on youtube about value investing. I forgot the name of the person but his advice was - amazing
    In your investment account "GTC" option is a blessing use it well, when you want to buy stock do the research think of a price that they stock would never reach in next year or so. Then set limit order for that price and wait, .....
    Its really amazing strategy if you have the patience to wait. I thought netflix would never reach $65 when it was trading over 250+ so I did set a GTC order for 65 and waited and rest you know .. NFLX went to 53 and then bounced back.
    When FB shares came out 36 was too much so I set a GTC for $16 and then waited.
    for AAPL my GTC is set to $400, lets see if I hits it or not.
    2 Apr 2013, 08:56 AM Reply Like
  • thealct
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    AAPL - The successful failure

     

    Disclaimer - Way too Long
    2 Apr 2013, 09:00 AM Reply Like
  • dook
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    Goldman's history re: AAPL reminds me of a quote from Lenin at the height of the Russian revolution: "I must find where the people are going, so I can lead them."
    2 Apr 2013, 09:11 AM Reply Like
  • frosty
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    Their downgrade projects and upside of 'only' 25%. So why do they call this a downgrade if they believe the stock actually will appreciate by 25%?
    2 Apr 2013, 09:20 AM Reply Like
  • The Aristos
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    It was downgraded from it's 'Conviction List'. The PT change is just padding to their reasoning.
    2 Apr 2013, 09:35 AM Reply Like
  • Recon6
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    Previous poster was right about GS: no doubt one division would not hesitate to buy when a "sell' was announced; but this was not a "sell" it was a downgrade to lower price target but still a "buy". But what is now becoming unconscionable is Tiny Tim's -- and the Gore Board's -- lack of ANY action in the face of this continuing bleeding. "Seriously evaluating options" is not a viable solution after 2 plus months of deliberation. It is incompetence.
    2 Apr 2013, 09:50 AM Reply Like
  • cshoxie
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    Cook won't say "anything" until after earnings are reported in a few weeks. He knows the report will not be good. Why give any positive news now only to see the stock get crushed as it did in January? He'll say something about a dividend/buyback sometime in June. He doesn't want to be seen as saying something positive just to prop up the stock. That would not be "cool."
    2 Apr 2013, 10:23 AM Reply Like
  • rbrdbd
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    Very good points on GS. They are manipulating the market.
    Most likely GS was selling at 600+ while upgrading the stock and buying now at 430 while downgrading.
    2 Apr 2013, 10:20 AM Reply Like
  • Recon6
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    Agree that GS would not hesitate to be buying as they put out a "sell" but this is not a downgrade to "sell". They still have a "buy" but lower price target. BUT it is approaching irresponsible that Tiny Tim and Gore board do not do or say something to stop the bleeding. "Seriously evaluating options" is NOT a solution on what to do with the cash.
    2 Apr 2013, 10:22 AM Reply Like
  • pl39868
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    They're not forecasting anything more than market sentiment gussied up in whatever numbers lend credence to their position. If Cramer came on and said "Must own!", just imagine what would happen.
    2 Apr 2013, 12:03 PM Reply Like
  • deercreekvols
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    Goldman Sachs holds millions of shares of Apple in its mutual funds.

     

    Who are they trying to kid with this downgrade?

     

    They will be buying shares in huge blocks, no doubt.

     

    Hard to believe that playing the stock market game this way is legal. Check out their Nokia "sell" call and how they bought over 60M shares of NOK during this "sell" period.
    2 Apr 2013, 01:44 PM Reply Like
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