Microsoft (MSFT) roundup: 1) ZDNet's Mary Jo Foley reports Microsoft is thinking of bringing...

Microsoft (MSFT) roundup: 1) ZDNet's Mary Jo Foley reports Microsoft is thinking of bringing back the Start button with Windows Blue, and of also allowing PCs to boot in desktop mode. The report follows major criticism of Win. 8's UI changes, and ugly Q1 PC data partly blamed on the OS. 2) In starting coverage at Overweight, Morgan Stanley asserts Microsoft "can still grow revenues with PCs declining 5% a year over the next five years." Also, an MS CIO survey found 20% of respondents using Windows Azure, compared with 13% using Amazon Web Services (AMZN). (earlier: I, II)
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  • SA Editor Samir Patel
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    As an early adopter of W8 (on a non-touch laptop* hooked up to two external 23"+ monitors, so basically a desktop configuration), I honestly have no idea why everyone's griping about the "new" start button. It took me all of a day to get used to the new interface, and now I find it to be quite intuitive, not to mention that W8 is snappier/more powerful overall.


    Nonetheless, given the level of pushback from consumers on the issue, I think it's a smart tactical decision on the part of Microsoft to let users have it their way if they want to, so long as they don't take away my nice/clean/modern interface.


    *Specs: 2+yo Dell Studio 15z powered by a Westmere core i5 and retrofitted with 120GB SSD, 8 GB RAM.
    16 Apr 2013, 07:28 PM Reply Like
  • WisPokerGuy
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    New Coke.... Old Coke....


    I've worked in user interface development for over 20 years, so I think I can saying this with some amount of credibility --- Windows 8 is a piece of S-H-*-T.


    Did Microsoft actually think major corporations were going to spend $1,000's of dollars in training (not to mention the time involved) to re-train their entire workforce to use this software? Did anyone at Microsoft spend ANY time doing user acceptance testing? Did Steve Balmer think this was cool? If I had attempted to release software designed like this in the "real world" I would probably have gotten fired.


    Frankly, this is just another boneheaded move by a company who seems to be making quite a few boneheaded moves lately. There are major problems at Microsoft, starting with the fact that Steve Balmer still has the title of CEO.
    16 Apr 2013, 07:40 PM Reply Like
  • celebritydave
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    good move.


    i used windows 8 RC1 and then the full version.


    its fast! great OS.


    i dont use the metro screen. i just go straight to desktop. i would prefer to boot straight to there.


    dont need a start button but it wouldnt offend me either.
    16 Apr 2013, 10:00 PM Reply Like
  • Yokyok
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    great os?
    it still requires antivirus software running 24/7 and security updates at least once a month because ever after all these's so full of holes it's virtually UN-fixable.
    16 Apr 2013, 10:27 PM Reply Like
  • Gloube
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    Why do you think iOS has so few viruses? It's not because it's safer, it's only because the user base is infinitely smaller and hence noone is developing viruses for this platform. Windows is universal, so if you want to create a virus and spread it, you do it on Windows.


    How hard is it to understand?
    17 Apr 2013, 03:30 AM Reply Like
  • Placebo Investment Advice
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    Great move. Removing the Start button was like removing the spoiler from a Honda Civic.
    16 Apr 2013, 10:33 PM Reply Like
  • timddeb
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    a glimmer of hope. MSFT listening to the end user. Won't last long.
    16 Apr 2013, 11:15 PM Reply Like
  • KIA Investment Research
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    While I like Metro for tablets and smartphones, I’m still undecided as to whether or not it is a good idea for the desktop or whether it was implemented correctly.


    I think Metro can be good for the desktop as long as the user is a basic user, one that is either surfing the web, reading email, or looking at their picture library; like you might do on a smartphone. But I am a power user and often have many windows open at once. Because of this, I find myself living in the old style Desktop mode as opposed to the new style Metro mode. I want to use Metro, but I don’t like having to exit one window to enter the next, or at least that’s how it feels. I did find that I could use Alt-Tab like I do in Windows 7 to cycle through windows, but it’s the fact that the windows are otherwise hidden that bothers me.


    For example, In Windows 7 I often have several browsers open at once, I can then click on the browser icon on the bottom of my screen and see a list of all the open pages .. this is very powerful and lets me compare in a glance the pages I have open and select the one I want. Windows 8 forces me to cycle through each window, one at a time to pick the one I want. While this doesn't seem like a big deal, it becomes unworkable once your number of browser windows exceeds 5-10. Windows 8 one-at-a-time cycle method becomes even more cumbersome when you factor in that fact that this cycle list will also include iTunes, Picasa, and any other applications you happen to have open.


    Another bother with Windows 8 is how it spreads functionality across the two paradigms.
    My Consumer Preview of Windows 8 expired and I decided to purchase the upgrade to Windows 8 retail for my ‘family computer’. The upgrade from the Consumer Preview would not allow me to keep the existing user accounts, so I went a head to recreate them.
    I launched the Control Panel from Metro which took me to Desktop. But when I went to create a new user, it launched me back into some Metro app to create the actual user. When I was done there, I went back to the Desktop mode to adjust the privileges of the newly created account. Bleh.
    This was in no way easier than in Windows 7, nor was it more intuitive.
    Maybe it’s me though.. maybe there is a way to do everything from Metro without ever going to the Desktop. But, if you are going to allow things like user creation from either mode, don’t bounce the user back and forth.


    So as I said, if you are a simple user who is only ever using one or maybe two apps at a time, Metro will work for you. But if you're a power user like me, the start button and the ability to stay in desktop mode is a necessity.
    18 Apr 2013, 07:51 PM Reply Like
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