all in all - 5.75% on 30 Yr is a great rate. Inventory is overpriced still and with low rates it will continue to be. Fundamentally we need bottomed out purchases and not refinances for long term fix.
Historically yes it is still fairly cheap, but the jump from around 4.25% to nearly 6% in a matter of days cannot be a good sign.
On Jun 11 11:57 AM CautiousInvestor wrote:
> By historical measures this is still very cheap mortage money.<br/> > > But with employment and incomes under attack, along with the need > to contract household debt, every little thing starts have big consequences.
Sorry to keep dragging everyone here back to the real world I see around me but I think I sit in the thick of this thing. Those low rates went to primo refinances more than anything. No matter how good those rates seems, Joe Average wasnt qualifying nor were those who were losig those homes. the interest rate increase this soon is a blessing as It is an early red flag to the geniouses who think they can spend their (our) way out of this thing. 5% is a long way from the 16% I paid on my first home last time we were in times like these.
5.75% seems to be kind of high considering it was at 4.75% a couple weeks ago, and we've seen 5.5% many times this past (Pre-Bailout) decade.
On Jun 11 12:36 PM User 429879 wrote:
> all in all - 5.75% on 30 Yr is a great rate. Inventory is overpriced > still and with low rates it will continue to be. Fundamentally we > need bottomed out purchases and not refinances for long term fix.
My sister just got a new home (at half price) at 4.35% about 3 weeks ago - and she is hardly a fat cat, being an almost to retire GS5 government clerk. Two houses near me just sold about a month ago at around 4.5%, houses in the $200K range.
On Jun 11 06:37 PM Dan in mpls wrote:
> Sorry to keep dragging everyone here back to the real world I see > around me but I think I sit in the thick of this thing. Those low > rates went to primo refinances more than anything. No matter how > good those rates seems, Joe Average wasnt qualifying
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How quickly that is forgotten.....
I'm not expert but this magnitude of a jump has to signify changes in the fundamentals we're looking at here.
But with employment and incomes under attack, along with the need to contract household debt, every little thing starts have big consequences.
On Jun 11 11:57 AM CautiousInvestor wrote:
> By historical measures this is still very cheap mortage money.<br/>
>
> But with employment and incomes under attack, along with the need
> to contract household debt, every little thing starts have big consequences.
On Jun 11 12:36 PM User 429879 wrote:
> all in all - 5.75% on 30 Yr is a great rate. Inventory is overpriced
> still and with low rates it will continue to be. Fundamentally we
> need bottomed out purchases and not refinances for long term fix.
On Jun 11 06:37 PM Dan in mpls wrote:
> Sorry to keep dragging everyone here back to the real world I see
> around me but I think I sit in the thick of this thing. Those low
> rates went to primo refinances more than anything. No matter how
> good those rates seems, Joe Average wasnt qualifying
> Sorry to keep dragging everyone here back to the real world [...]
Gosh, what would we ever do without you, "Dan in mpls".