House Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank - who favors a "council of regulators" over the Federal Reserve when it comes to watching systemic risk - is backing Ron Paul's "Audit the Fed" bill, which is facing no significant opposition in the House.
Whippet, you are correct. Only 25 Senators currently backing this. Everyone needs to take 2 mins to email their senators demanding that they vote for this bill.
They need to be careful what they wish for, because if they prevail then they will have to do something, and if what they do doesnt fix the problems found then they will own the problems and if history is any guide they will probably make the problems worse, it would seem then that an outside non political audit process should be the course of action
About the only thing I agree with this putz. Barney (along with maxine) said fnm was doing an outstanding job of doling out mtg loans. (2004)LOL! Pathetic! A F$#@$# Bum.
The only way we could ever get rid of Barney Frank would be to sell Massachusetts to the Russians. That way they would have to take him too. Any maybe the Russians could learn a thing or two from Barney about how to really kill capitalism with a slick and easy housing bubble.
Oh I bet your a real critical thinking historian. Let me guess...the parabolic move in economic metrics after March 1933 had nothing to do with New Deal policies. 1930-1933 (New Deal) GDP continued to decline 22%, unemployment went from 8.9% to 25.2%, Real Investment declined 33%, Nominal wages declined 20.6%, From 33-37 GDP up 36%, unemployment 25% to 14% (only private sector #'s), Real Investment recovers 100% of 30-33 loss, Nominal wages up above 1930 high. What say you Mr. Historian?
On Sep 25 02:48 PM Whippet wrote:
> A conga line of idiots following 3000 years of financial history > up until 1913. As viewed from your Keynesian elitist clusterf^&k. >
Correlation only proves causation when progressives are arguing climate policy, The New Deal, and the messiah.
In every other case it's a logical fallacy.
On Sep 25 03:51 PM jpiretti wrote:
> Oh I bet your a real critical thinking historian. Let me guess...the > parabolic move in economic metrics after March 1933 had nothing to > do with New Deal policies. 1930-1933 (New Deal) GDP continued to > decline 22%, unemployment went from 8.9% to 25.2%, Real Investment > declined 33%, Nominal wages declined 20.6%, From 33-37 GDP up 36%, > unemployment 25% to 14% (only private sector #'s), Real Investment > recovers 100% of 30-33 loss, Nominal wages up above 1930 high. What > say you Mr. Historian?
Let me guess- you're an accountant, actuary, or some other sort of applied statistician. A Wormtongue with numbers. I'll speak your language- the dollar has lost 98% of its value since Jekyll Island. The great majority has occurred since 1971- the end of Bretton Woods and the beginning of unrestrained printing presses.
And what exactly does your New Deal fetish have to do with this comment string?
On Sep 25 03:51 PM jpiretti wrote:
> Oh I bet your a real critical thinking historian. Let me guess...the > parabolic move in economic metrics after March 1933 had nothing to > do with New Deal policies. 1930-1933 (New Deal) GDP continued to > decline 22%, unemployment went from 8.9% to 25.2%, Real Investment > declined 33%, Nominal wages declined 20.6%, From 33-37 GDP up 36%, > unemployment 25% to 14% (only private sector #'s), Real Investment > recovers 100% of 30-33 loss, Nominal wages up above 1930 high. What > say you Mr. Historian?
Let's try a different angle - When is the last time you heard anyone, anywhere say anything nice about Barney Frank, Nancy Pelosi, or (soon to be S-Canned) Harry Reid? Except maybe for the MSM stink tanks, that would be ZERO.
This is obviously not the Barney Frank-Jpirette mutual admiration society.
Well this looks to be a think tank with no solutions where govt. policy is replaced with organic progression and hopefully good luck...poison the earth?...not accountable...no food or health care?...the solution is worse than the misery. Sorry, but when Reagan said the govt. isn't the solution, it's the problem, I tend to believe that incompetent governance is the problem. And for all those who want to argue that poor black folks getting homes they could not afford and the CRA caused our current financial crisis...leave me out. Unregulated entities like CountryWide and derivatives of derivatives with an insurance wrap pushing the CDS market from 144 billion to 50+ trillion in 8 years tell me otherwise. You folks can feed on each other....Good Luck.
jpiretti: from you last comment, I can say for sure now that you are M.A.D. = (Misinformed - Angry - Disenfranchised). In the Reagan-Clinton years there was no stopping our economy. When the social reformation DNC party gained strength due to owning the universities (like Columbia) the anti-business climate came with it. No one here, including you, will argue that the DNC or the B.O. Admin are friendly to business, unless they own them. But free trade was the proverbial nail that killed the economy We can not compete with foreign workers making MP3 players that sell for less than it costs us to ship them to the next state. I will argue that with one of these hits, we could have survived somehow. But with both put together in the hands of the social reformers, it's basically over for us. The only solution after that happens (and it will) is a different social and global economic model that works. BTW: China just inked a deal to put their HK car factory in the deep south. How are Chrysler and GM going to compete with that? 6000 non-union jobs and "no speaky" [sic] English.
I would suggest you google debt/GDP 1932-2008. You will see a parabolic move in 1981 with a slight decrease during the Clinton years and a continuation after 2001. You will also see very weak median family income numbers during 1981-1992 and negative MFI #'s from 2001-? during a very pro business environment. Tax policy under these regimes have been very pro business and disastrous to our balance sheet. In 2003 when the SEC, through executive fiat allowed the 7 leading investment banking firms to increase their trading leverage ratios from 12/1 to 42/1 that was very pro business and again disastrous to our federal balance sheet. I can tell you that your understanding of what is good for business as it relates to the median family income is stunningly ill-informed. I pray to God you have no actual power over public policy, but merely rant as an exercise in mental masturbation.
On Sep 26 11:00 AM Mad_Max_A_Million wrote:
> jpiretti: from you last comment, I can say for sure now that you > are M.A.D. = (Misinformed - Angry - Disenfranchised). > In the Reagan-Clinton years there was no stopping our economy. When > the social reformation DNC party gained strength due to owning the > universities (like Columbia) the anti-business climate came with > it. > No one here, including you, will argue that the DNC or the B.O. Admin > are friendly to business, unless they own them. But free trade was > the proverbial nail that killed the economy We can not compete with > foreign workers making MP3 players that sell for less than it costs > us to ship them to the next state. I will argue that with one of > these hits, we could have survived somehow. But with both put together > in the hands of the social reformers, it's basically over for us. > > The only solution after that happens (and it will) is a different > social and global economic model that works. > BTW: China just inked a deal to put their HK car factory in the deep > south. How are Chrysler and GM going to compete with that? > 6000 non-union jobs and "no speaky" [sic] English.
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Enron was audited too.
Barney is just giving it a gentle shove so he and his ilk can rewrite the next chapter in this great crime novel.
"The Feds books wook vewy vewy scwewy. Wets awe go down to the UN and wet them pwint ow money."
Barney (along with maxine) said fnm was doing an outstanding job of doling out mtg loans. (2004)LOL!
Pathetic! A F$#@$# Bum.
Any maybe the Russians could learn a thing or two from Barney about how to really kill capitalism with a slick and easy housing bubble.
It's like a conga line of idiots from the John Birch school of delusional economics writing these comments.
On Sep 25 01:47 PM jpiretti wrote:
> Boy,
> It's like a conga line of idiots from the John Birch school of delusional
> economics writing these comments.
On Sep 25 02:48 PM Whippet wrote:
> A conga line of idiots following 3000 years of financial history
> up until 1913. As viewed from your Keynesian elitist clusterf^&k.
>
In every other case it's a logical fallacy.
On Sep 25 03:51 PM jpiretti wrote:
> Oh I bet your a real critical thinking historian. Let me guess...the
> parabolic move in economic metrics after March 1933 had nothing to
> do with New Deal policies. 1930-1933 (New Deal) GDP continued to
> decline 22%, unemployment went from 8.9% to 25.2%, Real Investment
> declined 33%, Nominal wages declined 20.6%, From 33-37 GDP up 36%,
> unemployment 25% to 14% (only private sector #'s), Real Investment
> recovers 100% of 30-33 loss, Nominal wages up above 1930 high. What
> say you Mr. Historian?
And what exactly does your New Deal fetish have to do with this comment string?
On Sep 25 03:51 PM jpiretti wrote:
> Oh I bet your a real critical thinking historian. Let me guess...the
> parabolic move in economic metrics after March 1933 had nothing to
> do with New Deal policies. 1930-1933 (New Deal) GDP continued to
> decline 22%, unemployment went from 8.9% to 25.2%, Real Investment
> declined 33%, Nominal wages declined 20.6%, From 33-37 GDP up 36%,
> unemployment 25% to 14% (only private sector #'s), Real Investment
> recovers 100% of 30-33 loss, Nominal wages up above 1930 high. What
> say you Mr. Historian?
This is obviously not the Barney Frank-Jpirette mutual admiration society.
I'm not a doctor, but I'd recommend a hycolonic and decaf.
In the Reagan-Clinton years there was no stopping our economy. When the social reformation DNC party gained strength due to owning the universities (like Columbia) the anti-business climate came with it.
No one here, including you, will argue that the DNC or the B.O. Admin are friendly to business, unless they own them. But free trade was the proverbial nail that killed the economy We can not compete with foreign workers making MP3 players that sell for less than it costs us to ship them to the next state. I will argue that with one of these hits, we could have survived somehow. But with both put together in the hands of the social reformers, it's basically over for us.
The only solution after that happens (and it will) is a different social and global economic model that works.
BTW: China just inked a deal to put their HK car factory in the deep south. How are Chrysler and GM going to compete with that?
6000 non-union jobs and "no speaky" [sic] English.
On Sep 26 11:00 AM Mad_Max_A_Million wrote:
> jpiretti: from you last comment, I can say for sure now that you
> are M.A.D. = (Misinformed - Angry - Disenfranchised).
> In the Reagan-Clinton years there was no stopping our economy. When
> the social reformation DNC party gained strength due to owning the
> universities (like Columbia) the anti-business climate came with
> it.
> No one here, including you, will argue that the DNC or the B.O. Admin
> are friendly to business, unless they own them. But free trade was
> the proverbial nail that killed the economy We can not compete with
> foreign workers making MP3 players that sell for less than it costs
> us to ship them to the next state. I will argue that with one of
> these hits, we could have survived somehow. But with both put together
> in the hands of the social reformers, it's basically over for us.
>
> The only solution after that happens (and it will) is a different
> social and global economic model that works.
> BTW: China just inked a deal to put their HK car factory in the deep
> south. How are Chrysler and GM going to compete with that?
> 6000 non-union jobs and "no speaky" [sic] English.