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Thu, Nov. 20, 3:09 PM
- There was a sizable knee-jerk selloff in Pimco closed-end funds, particularly those managed by Bill Gross, when he announced his sudden departure from Pimco in late September, but the lofty premiums for some have returned, writes Morningstar's Cara Esser.
- The Pimco High Income Fund (NYSE:PHK) to take one example, by October 20th traded for a slightly higher premium than it did the day before Gross' exit, and today sells for a 49% premium to NAV.
- Other CEFs formerly run by Gross: PTY sells for a 17.6% premium, PCN a 3.7% discount, PFL a 1% premium, and PFN a 3.2% discount.
- Others of note: PDI a 3.8% discount, PGP a 54% premium, RCS a 12.8% premium.
Thu, Oct. 2, 12:13 PM
- Seasoned Pimco managers Alfred Murata and Mohit Mittal have assumed portfolio manager duties at the Pimco High Income Fund (PHK -1.5%), the Corporate & Income Strategy Fund (PCN -0.8%), the Income Strategy Fund (PFL -0.6%), and the Income Strategy Fund II (PFN -1.2%) following Bill Gross' departure from the firm.
- Noting the tenure and track record of the two, Fitch doesn't expect much impact to NAVs. Thus far, the NAVs are off an average of 0.63% (inline with the broader market) though the stock price premiums/discounts have narrowed/widened by considerably more.
Fri, Sep. 26, 11:49 AM
- Pimco's closed-end funds and ETFs are plunging in the wake of Bill Gross' exit to Janus: PHK -8.7%, PGP -8.5%, PTY -6.2%, PCN -4.2%, RCS -4.3%, PFL -3.6%, PFN -2.7%, PKO -2.5%, PDI -2.2%, PCI -1.4%, BOND -0.2%.
- "A lot of people bought into Pimco because of Bill Gross, who was the face of the organization, and so they’re shooting first and asking questions later,” says Motley Fool Asset Management CIO Bill Mann. "Investing is a personal business, and the market is saying it trusted Bill Gross.”
- Meanwhile, headlines indicate Dan Ivascyn, Pimco's (OTCQX:AZSEY, OTCPK:ALIZF) deputy chief investment officer, will succeed Gross and take over portfolio management; WSJ had written earlier this week that Ivasycn already was growing in popularity among Pimco investors, who had been putting more money into his fund even as they were pulling it from Gross’ fund.
Fri, May. 23, 4:14 PM
- Several weeks after Bill Gross purchased more of the Pimco Dynamic Income Fund (PDI) for his own account, its roughly 5% discount to NAV has disappeared.
- The same, however, isn't true for Pimco Dynamic Credit Income (PCI), though it's also managed by well-regarded Dan Ivascyn. One reason for caution might be the relative newness of the fund, writes Brendan Conway.
- In the meantime, two Pimco CEFs which are known for sporting towering premiums to NAV continue to do so, the Pimco Global StockPLUS & Income Fund (PGP) and the Pimco High Income Fund (PHK). Two other Pimco CEFs at discounts: Pimco Income Strategy Fund (PFL) and Pimco Income Strategy Fund II (PFN).
Fri, Mar. 21, 11:30 AM
- "When times get tough, on Wall Street or in Newport Beach, Calif., the tough turn on each other," writes David Weidner, not seeing anything too unusual in the Pimco saga. These sorts of ugly partings happen all the time amid the massive egos on Wall Street. Consider Citigroup with Sandy Weil and Jamie Dimon, Morgan Stanley with Phil Purcell and John Mack, and Bear Stearns with Jimmy Cayne and Warren Spector.
- "In every case, the splits occurred under tremendous pressure. Much like a marriage headed for divorce, long simmering incompatibilities, jealousies and flaws rose to the surface ... When push comes to shove, it is always better to be king. No. 2’s instinctively need to watch their backs. You want normal? That is normal."
- Allianz (AZSEY)
- Pimco CEFs: PTY, PDI, PMF, PGP, PKO, PFL, PFN, PCN, PCM, PHK, RCS, PMF, PML
- Previous: Gross becoming "increasingly illogical and irrational."
Thu, Mar. 20, 4:42 PM
- It turns out it was three, not two lined up to be deputy CIOs to Bill Gross amid the departure of Mohamed El-Erian. One - Marc Seidner - resigned in January just hours before he was to be publicly announced in his new position. Seidner - who followed El-Erian to Pimco in 2009 - reportedly had found working there increasingly difficult over the last 18 months, with Gross becoming "increasingly illogical and irrational."
- In other news Pimco has lost a $1.3B bond fund mandate to TCW.
- Pimco's parent: Allianz (AZSEY)
- Among Pimco's closed-end offerings are: PTY, PDI, PMF, PGP, PKO, PFL, PFN, PCN, PCM, PHK, RCS, PMF, PML. There's also the ETF version of Bill Gross' Total Return Fund: BOND.
Wed, Mar. 19, 12:22 PM
- “There is a heightened level of uncertainty in the post El-Erian era surrounding the questions of whether Pimco’s latest senior staffing transitions will prove beneficial to investors [and] whether recent and future senior-level departures indicate a persistent side effect of the firm’s pressure-cooker culture," says analyst Eric Jacobsen cutting Pimco's "stewardship" rating to C from B and the "parent pillar score" - which examines manager turnover, investment culture, and fee levels - to Neutral from Positive.
- It's not automatic, but look for the big-picture rating changes to quickly filter through to the ratings of individual Pimco funds, says Morningstar.
- Among Pimco's closed-end offerings are PTY, PDI, PMF, PGP, PKO, PFL, PFN, PCN, PCM, PHK, RCS, PMF, PML. There's also the ETF version of Bill Gross' Total Return Fund: BOND.
- Pimco parent Allianz SE (AZSEY -2%)
Tue, Jan. 28, 3:16 PM
- The two main reasons to stay away from a closed-end fund - too expensive or a distribution (usually a fat one) that isn't sustainable, and the eight added to Wells Fargo's "closed-end funds to avoid list" fit the bill.
- The eight: The GDL Fund (GDL), Cushing Royalty & Income Fund (SRF), Guggenheim Enhanced Strategy Fund (GGE), Guggenheim Enhanced Equity Income Fund (GPM), Guggenheim Strategic Opportunities Fund (GOF), Aberdeen Australia Equity Fund (IAF), Pimco Income Strategy Fund (PFL), Pimco Income Strategy Fund II (PFN).
- Like many fixed income CEFs, the Pimco funds have seen earnings declines, but the Wells team notes it's been particularly significant for those two, resulting in distribution coverage rates of just 65% and 77%. Given the continued low rate environment, either the distribution will have to be cut or NAV will erode.
- The Australia fund has an 11.8% distribution rate - hardly a fit with the 0.1% annualized NAV return over the past three years.
Oct. 17, 2013, 12:17 PM
- I see no reason for long-term rates to head higher, says Jeff Gundlach, appearing on CNBC. He doesn't see the taper coming soon - incomes are falling, the labor force participation rate is stuck, and inflation is non-existent. Further, why would Janet Yellen take the Fed helm and immediately begin to reverse a policy she's so supportive of?
- Without the taper, he notes, QE is actually expanding on a relative basis thanks to a smaller budget deficit and less Treasury issuance needing to be mopped up by the central bank.
- The best opportunity in fixed income continues to be closed-end funds trading at discounts to net asset value (his DBL being one of them). You can put together a basket of these, he says, yielding 8-9% and with a discount to NAV of 10%. Others possibilities (though we haven't checked their prices vs. NAV): PDI, PTY, PCI, PHK, PKO, PCN, PCI, PFN, PFL.
- Treasurys continue their big rally, the yield on the 10-year now all the way down to 2.60%. TLT +0.8%, TBT -1.6%.
- Turning to stocks: I don't like $300B market cap companies trading at 20x forward earnings, he says, suggesting GOOG be "harvested" for gains.
- On TSLA: There's something wrong with this picture, he says, noting the company's $23B valuation while GM and Ford are hitting new highs. These massive Tesla sales being priced into the stock have to come from somewhere.
Aug. 29, 2013, 1:02 PM
- In a major about-face, Jeff Gundlach turns bullish on the mortgage REIT sector (REM +0.7%), telling CNBC he spots value as many are trading at 10% or more discounts to net asset value. He specifically mentions Annaly (NLY +1.3%) as being a buy. Reported book value as of June 30 is $13.03 vs. the current price of $11.50.
- Other popular names trading at big discounts (though not mentioned by Gundlach): AGNC, ARR, IVR, HTS, CYS, CMO, MTGE, DX, WMC, JMI, EARN, to name a few.
- Other mREIT ETFs: MORT, MORL.
- He's also a fan of closed-end income funds trading at wide discounts to NAV. None are mentioned, but PDI, PFN, and PFL come to mind. DoubleLine's own DBL is trading right about at NAV.
- Of Apple's (AAPL +0.6%) big run to $500? "All the easy money has been made ... It's kind of dead money."
Aug. 13, 2013, 12:44 PM
- Tumbling Treasury prices - with TLT carving out a new 52-week low today - are again hitting income favorites.
- Leading mREITs (REM -1.4%) lower are Invesco (IVR -3.3%), Annaly (NLY -2.3%), American Capital (AGNC -2%), and Western Asset (WMC -1.6%).
- A number of income CEFs not long ago were so much in favor they commanded large premiums to NAV. They're now at seemingly growing-by-the-day discounts. Among the movers today is the Pimco Dynamic Income Fund (PDI -1.4%) selling for $27.45 against yesterday's closing NAV of $30.23. Others include: PCI, PFN, and PFL.
- Still trading at premiums to NAV are the Pimco High Income Fund (PHK -0.9%) and the Pimco Corporate & Income Fund (PTY -1.1%).
- Municipals (MUB -0.6%) slip as well, hitting Muni CEFs: NXZ -0.9%, IIM -1.2%, VKQ -0.7%.
- Related ETFs: MORT, MORL, SUB, MUNI, PVI, PZA, SHM, TFI, VRD, HYD, ITM, MLN, PRB, SMB, GMMB, SMMU, RVNU, NY .
Aug. 6, 2013, 12:30 PM
- With equity guys greedy and fixed income fans fearful, maybe it's time to go the other way.
- Portfolio manager David Tepper (not that David Tepper), finds 10 closed-end bond funds who have negative YTD and Y/Y returns even as their net asset values have risen over the same periods: TAI, HIX, HHY, HIO, FTF, HAV, HIH, PIM, PPT, FMY.
- Several other closed-end funds run by high-profile names used to command hefty premiums, but now trade at discounts to net asset value. Among them are Jeff Gundlach's DBL and DSL and Pimco's PCI, PDI, PFN, and PFL.
Jun. 22, 2013, 9:00 AMBill Gross rejiggers some of his family money amid the bond market rout which hit Pimco's closed-end income funds particularly hard thanks to their tendency to trade at wide premiums to NAV. He picked up more than $4M worth of the Pimco Corporate & Income Strategy Fund (PCN) last week, and this week sold shares in the Pimco Municipal Income Fund II (PML) and the Pimco Income Strategy Fund (PFL). Last month, Gross unloaded a stake in another fund - PTY - when it was trading at a 21% premium to NAV. | 1 Comment
Dec. 3, 2012, 4:45 PM
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