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General Discussion on GPRE
In regards to ADM victim's comment ehtonol companies do not use food grade corn. The corn they use is #2 corn. I am tired of hearing that the ethonol companies are going to use up all of the corn needed for food. Did you know that corn has been used for years in making trash bags. And other plastic materials and every thing they use is recycled all the grain is dried and used in feed lots for cattle. so in conclusion i think people need to keep their mouths shut unless they know what they are talking about and mabey do a little more reserch. ReplyEthanol and the Future of Alternative Fuels [view article]
Now, I tend to disagree with Gale's dire prediction in the immediate future. Yes, peak oil is coming, if not arrived. Yes, fermentation from corn is really not sustainable forever. Still, isn't it better that we are taking the first steps with the available technology we have and building industrial capacity to produce fuels by fermentation? Once cellulase enzyme and efficienct coneversion of cellulose to glucose and xylose is refined it will be possible to use the stalks and leaves of plants rather than the grain, and within the same type of fermentors we happen to be building industrially right now. ReplyEditors
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Is this a buy or a sell? ReplyEthanol Going From Panacea to Pariah - WSJ [view article]
STOP the generous U.S. subsidies for Ethanol. Taking food away from the hungry is a "crime against humanity." Stop ADM now! We can't stop high oil prices But we CAN stop this Ethanol SCAM. All food is dependant on us doing it before it's TOO LATE! ReplyCaracciolo
Ethanol Going From Panacea to Pariah - WSJ [view article]
Not true....people have not waked up yet! If they were awake they would know that ethanol produced from food sources such as corn is only temporary. Ethanol produced from cellulos will be the primary replacement for the majority of fossil fuels or the next 20 or 30 years until hydrogen and electric vehicles are produced and available in quantities to completely replace it. Construction of cellulosic ethanol plants in the U.S. will be ongoing in 2008. Japan already has one and China is contructing one now. All from cellulos. ReplyEthanol Update: Challenges and Opportunities [view article]
What about the companies using woodchips and municipal waste instead of food sources. Check out the nbr(nova biosource fuels) they have begun to use various methods to produce ethanol. by 2nd qtr of 2008 they will be fully functional and mass producing barrells of the product. BFRE(bluefire ethanol fuels) is in the plant building phase, but have caught on that non food source produced ethanol is economical and yields far greater product than corn or fat source ethanol. Lastly is GFET(Guf Ethanol) prior to energy bill being signed they were in full swing to begin with the corn based ethanol method, but now has to regroup and follow the lead of the 6 companies that the govt. has invested milions into to produce non food source ethanol. ReplyEthanol Going From Panacea to Pariah - WSJ [view article]
People are finally waking up! Whose bright idea was it anyway that we should stop burning fossil fuel and burn our food instead? ReplyJohnson,
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Ethanol Producers Face Price Pressures, Fundamental Questions [view article]
Dr. Pimental is correct and has low net energy results for corn-ethanol have been proven over and over again for the last 35 years. Mr. Wang is lying. He is a government laboratory employee who, if he does not come up with "the right numbers," will get neither promotion nor retention if there is a future RIF (reduction-in-force) affecting gov't energy agency/lab employees. In sum, it is much safer and wiser to trust Dr. Pimental's numbers, and all the other independent and unbiased experts when it comes to asking, "What is the real return in energy for all the energy invested in this technology?" Any other way of looking at it is stupid and naive or specious and special interest. ReplyA Modest Proposal For the Future of Ethanol: Cellulosic Beef [view article]
I appreciate Tom's thoughtful and well researched article. There is a wild card here and it is corn yield developments. Tom suggests that if all the 2006 crop were used for ethanol it would be enough for 20 billion gallons of fuel ethanol. This would be about 14% of our total transportation fuel needs in the US.In just one year, the 2007 anticipated crop (about 13 billion bushels) would be enough for over 35 billion gallons of fuel ethanol. Many in the ag community feel that with implementation of other seed varieties and crop technology, 20 billion bushels is not unreasonable. Without taking one kernel from established, stable markets for corn use (feed, food, industrial, and export), and without increasing total planted acres, fertilizer use or soil erosion runoff, producing 35% of our fuel needs from corn in just a couple years is not unreasonable. Numerous technology developments by ICM, Poet/Broin, and my company Delta-T are being proven and implemented which further reduce the water and energy requirements for corn ethanol plants, and lower operating costs. This points to the need for more corn to ethanol capacity, not less.
Put another way, this would displace the oil imports we currently receive from Saudi, Arabia, Iraq, and Venezuela. It points to a more energy independent United States.
Commodities are about logistics and with the tremendous increase in the demand for fuels in other parts of the world, it may not make sense for them to export to the U.S. in the future anyway.
Corn and corn to ethanol infrastructure is already in place and there are very positive outcomes in terms of the environment, tailpipe emissions and air quality, and economic development of domestic industries and agriculture. Not only does ethanol create direct jobs at plants, but for a huge number of people employed in materials, fabrication, construction, and agriculture.
I wholeheartedly agree with development of low cost cellulose to ethanol processes and plants. But this should not be looked at as something that will displace the corn to ethanol industry, rather to supplement it. Corn to ethanol is simply going to be way ahead of cellulose to ethanol for a long time, not just in terms of the technology, but also in feedstock infrastructure and logistics and agricultural methods, and in acceptance and non-disruption of existing animal feed methods and equipment.
The heavy lifting is in the hands of the pro-ethanol and renewable legislators. We talk about the E10 wall as blocking the ongoing development of ethanol production capacity and blending. Development of voluntary blending markets for ethanol (E20, E30, E50, E85 etc) and their acceptance by US Automakers, and breaking down the barriers that have been put in the way of convenience store operators and fuel retailers by the oil companies (which is a reality, not a slogan) is a necessary short term route to increased renewable fuels and ongoing development. Sen John Thune from South Dakota and others are leading the efforts here in Washington, with a lot of support, but its a hard fight.
Paul Kamp
Delta-T Reply
A Quick Guide to Ethanol Energy Stocks [view article]
news.enquirer.com/apps...The nation's thirst for ethanol, to supplement pricey imported oil, is helping spur the growth of a century-old Oakley company.
Richard J. Blum, CECO's president and chief operating officer, says, "We've supplied more oxidizers for ethanol plants than anybody else in the United States.'' Reply
Ethanol and the Future of Alternative Fuels [view article]
Re: EthanolThe solid science says that ethanol from corn is not viable as an alternative. Ethanol from corn is confusing the public into believing that "peak oil" is not a real problem. The scientific sources that I trust say that there are no viable alternatives to carbon based energy that can be brought to market before the price of energy sky rockets due to scarcity. The realistic scenario is that the price of oil is going escalate to the point that civilization will turn to coal which will drastically exacerbate global warming rapidly and exhaust the worlds supply of coal. Once carbon energy is too expensive to be practical the world is likely to experience a human die off that will move our civilization back the 16th century. These dire predictions could be avoided but that is not likely because of the greed of big business and the incompetence of our political "leaders". Reply
Ethanol Stocks: Bouncing Back [view article]
There's no question in my mind that democrats are pro-ethanol. That didn't use to be the case. At one time the word "ethanol" made people think large companies like ADM whose lobbying was rewarded by large ethanol subsidies. Now when people think of ethanol, they think about fighting global warming. (We can thank Al Gore.) They also think of reducing dependence on foreign oil. The truth is, ethanol doesn't have many enemies these days. Democrats like corn ethanol because they know it is the path to cellulosic ethanol, the holy grail. Everyone is getting in on the cellulosic ethanol frenzy... even the big oil companies. If you have visited sites like InvestInCellulosicEtha... lately, you will be amazed at the huge technological advances cellulosic ethanol is making these days. ReplyEthanol Stocks: Bouncing Back [view article]
Good overview. I am wondering what role, if any, a Democratic win in congressional elections has upon ethanol stocks. omooc ReplyWilliams MD
Ethanol Stocks Perk Up On OPEC Cut, Production Hopes [view article]
ADM is worth a small part of one's investment ideas. The others mentioned will be consolidated, because they are underfunded. Something might emerge over time that incorporates some of the assets of the new plants at a nickel on the dollar and finally have some reasonable expectation of success. ReplyEthanol Stocks Perk Up On OPEC Cut, Production Hopes [view article]
Good short opp for those so inclined. ADM is actually a company that has value, I would exclude it from that comment. The others are fundamentally garbage and should be traded on technicals only.Nice inclusion of penny stocks. How liquid are those? Could I move the market in them with mom's IRA? Reply