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    Gillian
    Wates
    May 16 12:42 PM
    Google, IBM, Red Hat, Sun and the Digistan Connection [view article]
    simion: it's obvious MSFT invented the internet, like they invented the operating system, the PC, and the mouse. Linux stole everything from Windows. Everyone knows this, which is why no-one wants to give you the source code for linux. Sure, they say they will, but have you ever actually tried to get it? you see what i mean. Anyhow, i'm not a Microsoft supporter but i think hippy anti-capitalist freedom loving europeans should be forced to swear allegiance to vista. Reply
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    TaNK
    May 16 12:19 PM
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    Heavens! We simply MUST nip the Hague Declaration in the bud! How DARE those freedom-loving Linux hippies try to give away a whole operating system and subvert the status-quo fiefdom??? We ALL know Microsoft's lobbyists ... err, agents for the greater good are trying their best to make sure governments are steered in the right direction in their own, non-threatening way! C'mon, how DARE any Linux nuts even think that open standards would save anyone money! I mean we ... err, THEY just don't get it! Status quo is comfortable, it's safe, no one got fired for buying IBM ... umm, Microsoft, ya see? Reply
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    simion
    May 16 12:13 PM
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    I do not know that Microsoft invented Internet, can you find a prof of this afirmation? i belive that you must read more and write less(otherwise you confirm that you are stupid) Reply
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    Gillian
    Wates
    May 16 12:07 PM
    Google, IBM, Red Hat, Sun and the Digistan Connection [view article]
    I'm no Microsoft supporter but I have to admit DennisByron has a point. After all, Microsoft invented the internet in 1995 with Windows 95 and gave this to the world, free! They gave away internet explorer, when netscape was trying to screw people into paying for their browser. So MSFT has a long history of giving stuff away. Now, their profits are falling - didn't they make a loss last year? - so they need to tighten the screws. If this means patenting everything they can and trying to kill free software and open standards, well they have a godgiven right to do this. Nay, an obligation to their shareholders!

    Like I say, I'm no Microsoft supporter, but on this one I have to say Denise Byran has it absolutely right!

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    =8)-DX
    May 16 11:28 AM
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    Google, IBM, Red Hat, Sun and the Digistan Connection [view article]
    Hey there Dennis,

    I'd just like to correct you on a couple of things, which it seems you don't understand.

    Digistan is a syllabic abbreviation of Digital Standards. Just as for instance Microsoft is a syllabic abbreviation of Microcomputer Software. In other words the name has nothing to do with terrorism or Farsi. Producing such abbreviations is normal in various European languages.

    And as Digistan is presumably funded by European EUR (and other EU currencies) I can't possibly see how it could be using up your US taxpayer dollars. Also it seems to me that the cost of a single website and someone drafting a declaration shouldn't be too much. People participating pro-bono in workgroups and open source projects don't cost anything and I would rather say they bring unmeasurable value.

    You are right in saying that the website with its declaration should more precisely define what "free and open standards" are and I also on first reading their declaration felt a little "propaganda-fille... But on reflection it seems to me very simple, that a "free standard" means - without expensive patents attached. An "open standard" means one available to all interested parties (such as software developers) and not vendor-specific. For instance HTML or XML or CSS. These specifications are available for free online in many places and for me as a web developer it is easy to write HTML. Also I can be reasonably assured that people using different browsers, operating systems or even devices will be able to view and access this HTML. Conversely I would not call for instance MSOXML an open standard (yet - until OOXML is published and implemented) because it is extremely difficult for me to create or edit such a document (which I have tried to do many times with varying levels of success - with next to no reference material) and the document I produce is only openable using a single vendor's software. As for Digistan "having a problem defining" free and open standards I later found they hava definition on www.digistan.org/open-....

    Dennis, I would please like you to give us a explanation of why you think this declaration is wrong or bad (does it contain bad logic?) and who it will hurt.

    And also it would be good to apologize for your tone which seems to imply there is something inherently bad in either coutries ending in "stan", Europeans, left-wing ideology. This seems like deep predjudice which is something you yourself are criticising (anti-Microsoft predjudice). Also as a European I think it would be good to have more competition in the software market, for instance in the Czech Republic where I live there are only a handful of Microsoft emplyees/representativ... The majority of all profit spent by people here on MS Office and Windows etc etc goes to the US. "Free and open standards" are one of the things that will allow capable Czech programmers an equal chance on the global IT market.     Reply
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    Jim D
    May 16 10:50 AM
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    If only Seeking Alpha had a way to permanently bury future comments from people who've flipped your bozo filter... Reply
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    Stunned
    May 16 10:44 AM
    Google, IBM, Red Hat, Sun and the Digistan Connection [view article]
    How do you conclude that 'public' dollars are spent? You failed to mention the 'microsoft' tax! You must be an m$ shill. Reply
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    User 194549
    May 16 10:30 AM
    Google, IBM, Red Hat, Sun and the Digistan Connection [view article]
    I would join an anti-digistani group. Dennis, please go for it. I hate those freedom loving europeans. Reply
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    Leon945
    May 16 10:26 AM
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    "I tried to plug in a mouse and I had to spend an hour on the forums finding out how to rebuild the kernel with mouse support."
    -Dennis Byron

    When was the last time you installed linux? 1991?
    I would avoid making these comments if I were you.
    I would risk looking/sounding like a complete idiot (in the sense of having some sort of mental disability).     Reply
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    simion
    May 16 09:34 AM
    Google, IBM, Red Hat, Sun and the Digistan Connection [view article]
    About Microsoft greath job read here www.geocities.com/~budallen/backdoor.ht...

    and see this too youtube.com/watch?v=f4...

    P.S. for less inteligent people: USA do no land on the moon, all the wars happen because of economic reasons(not freedom)
    Please learn more things before writing things

    youtube.com/watch?v=Hp...     Reply
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    JohnMurphy
    May 16 04:51 AM
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    Dennis, did you see your post got quoted on fark.com? You're very popular, keep up the great work!!! Reply
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    JohnMurphy
    May 16 04:47 AM
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    Dennis, I've been thinking and the more I think the more what you say makes sense. It seems there are some trolls here, don't respond to them, i've seen people like this on other forums, they usually get boared and go away.

    So i had two ideas. Tell me what you think. Why don't you make like a Dennis Byron Declaration, explain why international law proves governments should stay the heck away from business, and how that whole business of human rights and the rule of law is way overrated.

    Second, let's start an anti-Digistan group. I checked, and microserfia.org is available. With your writing skills and my enthusiasm i'm sure it'll be a hit.

    We need to move fast cause those Digistanis seem to be everywhere. Did you read on CNN how Iranistan, Cubastan, and North Koreastan are sending money to anti-MSFT groups around the world? Why do only terrorists hate Windows? Windows represents all that is good and great with US democracy. I think we have to get organized NOW. Email me, let's discuss.
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    chemicalscum
    May 15 09:07 PM
    Google, IBM, Red Hat, Sun and the Digistan Connection [view article]
    ROTFL Reply
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    DennisByron
    May 15 04:15 PM
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    Please stop these posts, thank you. Reply
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    DennisByron
    May 15 04:11 PM
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    Google, IBM, Red Hat, Sun and the Digistan Connection [view article]
    BTW, if those Eurolinux fanbois suggest I'm a Microsoft lover, they'd be wrong. It's true that I run Vista but only because Linux sucks. I tried to plug in a mouse and I had to spend an hour on the forums finding out how to rebuild the kernel with mouse support. It's ridicolous, and a waste of tax paeyers money. If I owned MSFT stock, which I don't, I'd sell it all and buy AAPL. I mean, have you seen the iPhone? So, you see, I am not a Microsoft astroturfer.

    JohnMurphy, did you get a chance to answer my comment yet? I'm starting to think you're a eurolinux fanboi in disguise.
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