St. Joe Co. (JOE)
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- Nine Months Later: Some Annual Predictions from the Financial Press [view article]
- St. Joe Company: A Clear Case of Overpromising [view article]
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- About That Homebuilder Rally... [Housing Tracker] [view article]
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Nine Months Later: Some Annual Predictions from the Financial Press [view article]
Please just remember that if you are going long that you are truly gambling if you don't have your exit strategy in place from the start. And make sure its adjusting to the market as it needs to. Don't rely on a lame trailing stop which is not at all reflective of that stock's behavior and market conditions. ReplySt. Joe Company: A Clear Case of Overpromising [view article]
Your comments read like a POS. Your words expose what you are: you cannot spell, you are profane and, reading your analysis of Joe's potential, you are short on grey matter.
On Sep 23 10:35 AM gaucho wrote:
> Be carefull about St Joe it is a controlled stock. They have connections
> with the Florida news papaers who publish stream of glowing crap
> about this company. The old farts looking to invest iretrirement
> money who live in Florida pump money into this POS company. Reply
St. Joe Company: A Clear Case of Overpromising [view article]
I'm no expert but there are plenty of smart investors who like St. Joe including the Fairholme fund. ReplySt. Joe Company: A Clear Case of Overpromising [view article]
Be carefull about St Joe it is a controlled stock. They have connections with the Florida news papaers who publish stream of glowing crap about this company. The old farts looking to invest iretrirement money who live in Florida pump money into this POS company. ReplyNine Months Later: Some Annual Predictions from the Financial Press [view article]
I am going back to drunkenly throwing darts at a newspaper. (My monkey got repossessed!) ReplyNine Months Later: Some Annual Predictions from the Financial Press [view article]
Chuck LeBeau's comment is SPAM ReplyNine Months Later: Some Annual Predictions from the Financial Press [view article]
Where is Louis Rukeyser when we need him!He always told the truth about the investment advice record of the big boys:
They are wrong more often than they are right, even in an up market. But that's a truth no one wants to hear. Reply
Nine Months Later: Some Annual Predictions from the Financial Press [view article]
I like what you have to say, and am in full agreement. My thought on investing in SPY and QQQQ is to dollar cost average into these two ETF's. Over the years I feel I will make a better than average return. ReplyNine Months Later: Some Annual Predictions from the Financial Press [view article]
Great article and an always valid point to check performance against the market. Everyone seems to think they are winning until they bother to check the score. ReplyNine Months Later: Some Annual Predictions from the Financial Press [view article]
Avoid Financial Disasters with SmartStopsIn less than a year six widely held financial stocks have cost Buy and Hold investors more than $840 billion dollars. (Yes, that’s “billions” with a “B”).
$840 billion in losses is a number that might even get Warren Buffet’s attention. Think of all the retirement funds and college tuition money that got needlessly flushed down the drain in these few months. It’s a sad scenario but the saddest part is that the investors who lost all these billions could have avoided this disaster by simply using a “SmartStop” trailing exit.
Let’s look at the individual stocks and see what might have happened if some prudent stops were set rather than relying on a “buy and hold”. (You will notice that I did not refer to “buy and hold” as a strategy. It doesn’t qualify to be a strategy – its actually the absence of any intelligent exit strategy.)
Fannie Mae (FNM): The Sept/Oct 2007 high was $68.60 and FNM dropped to a recent low of $6.68. This 97% decline cost investors a total of $66 billion dollars. A SmartStop exit was triggered on Oct. 17, 2007 that would have limited the loss from the peak to less than 10%.
Freddie Mac (FRE): The Sept/Oct 2007 high was $65.88 and in less than 12 months FRE dropped all the way down to a pitiful 36 cents. When Freddie took that leap off the cliff it cost “buy and hold” investors $42 billion dollars. However a SmartStop exit was triggered on Oct. 16, 2007 at a price of $58.05 that might have preserved enough equity to get the grandkids through college.
Lehman Brothers (LEH): The Sept/Oct 2007 high was $66.98 and now they have filed for bankruptcy and the shares recently closed at a value of 21 cents. This painful disaster cost LEH shareholders $46 billion from the referenced high. Where was the SmartStop exit on LEH? It was triggered on Oct. 19th at $57.47 a share. Those funds could have been reinvested and earning money toward a comfortable retirement. Where is all that money now?
American International Group (AIG): The Sept/Oct 2007 high was $70.13 and now the stock is trying to stabilize somewhere below $5 after hitting $3.50. For the unfortunate shareholders who still own AIG that’s a whopping loss of $179 billion (give or take a few dollars). How smart was the SmartStops exit? It was triggered on Oct. 15, 2007 at $66.41 and there have been 28 more SmartStops sell signals since then.
Washington Mutual (WM): The Sept/Oct 2007 high was $39.25 and the SmartStop exit was at $34.30 on Oct. 15th. WM hit a recent low of $1.75; not even enough to buy a Starbucks latte. In less than a year WM shareholders lost more than $63 billion. Maybe if they hold long enough WM will eventually recover. (Although it will require a gain of more than 2000% to make back that 95% loss.)
Bear Stearns (BSC): It’s hard to believe that the Sept/Oct 2007 high for this ancient and respected brokerage firm with over 3 billion shares outstanding was $133.20 a share. Now they are gone and even with the government assisted bailout their unfortunate shareholders have lost more than $440 billion in equity. This one can never recover. That’s $440 billion of hard earned savings that’s now gone forever. (In case you are wondering, the SmartStops exit was at $110.11 on October 24, 2007. There were 17 more SmartStops exit signals prior to the takeover.)
I wonder if the Bear Stearns account executives told their clients that the best way to invest was to buy and hold?
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Nine Months Later: Some Annual Predictions from the Financial Press [view article]
yep - i'm getting spanked - having only invested @ august 1, i've still managed to catch up w/ the rest of the market's hideous downturn by being overly optimistic (and overweight) concerning financials. ReplyCrushed Unnecessarily - Cramer's Lightning Round (9/2/08) [view article]
FCX is probably the most unappreciated stock on the NYSE. It has consistently delivered a nice dividend, often bought back its own shares, and its recent merger was a great deal for all. It has worked down its debt and maintained a good working relationship with Indonesia where its biggest mine is located. How far its price will fall during the current adjustment in commodities is hard to tell. The prudent investor knows he will not catch either the bottom or the top. Watch this one closely. ReplyIncentives and Dividends - Homebuilders Keep Trying [Housing Tracker] [view article]
How are banks "borrowing" @ 2.25% from the TAF window and NOT CUTTING OR ELIMINATING DIVIDENDS? This is a FED bailout, it should be MANDATORY! Only in America. I work for Lennar, they are one foot in the grave and have NO BUSINESS PAYING DIVIDENDS! They let-go all but one VP/sales in the entire Inland Empire division, they are a skeleton crew, for 4-5 offices. ReplyIncentives and Dividends - Homebuilders Keep Trying [Housing Tracker] [view article]
Fascinating... The dividends are being cut while the management are keeping and/or increasing their own pay packages as well as stock options.The business must fold! It no longer seems to belong to the shareholders ... but only to the managers. And what have they accomplished? Billions of dollars lost! WOW! Can I take a shot at it? Reply
About That Homebuilder Rally... [Housing Tracker] [view article]
RIP - the homebuilders' attempt to get a tax credit after what they have done for this country was shameless. What gall! Reply