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Windows Collapsing Under Its Own Weight - Gartner [view article]
Well, another issue for Microsoft is that they actually compete with their own customers and by that actually cannabises on the same group that they should support. Meaning, Microsoft is a leading provider of OS that are used by a vast majority of companies around the globe. So by launching competing services such as webmail, banners systems, portals, hardware series, game console, etc the end will turn the backs on Microsoft. This also also what happens now when some companies and as well governments are looking for alternatives to Microsoft OS and software.It all adds up to that one should help ones customers to be more competitive and not compete against them. Reply
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Windows Collapsing Under Its Own Weight - Gartner [view article]
Microsoft, to certain extent, started towards direction of 'ability to choose windows components' to build small footprint OS in their XP Embedded product. But somehow it didn't pick up as expected. With resistance from many to accept Vista, they should seriously think about it and come up with new OS. ReplyWindows Collapsing Under Its Own Weight - Gartner [view article]
NOTHING Windows does can fix their lethargic, bloated, and essentially crappy OS. Windows should do what they do best - software for the office environment.To was_fred and the others: Classic apps DO run on Mactels running 10.4.x under Rossetta Stone (I am using them on this MacBook Pro!), but I am not sure about Leopard.
To rampman and his fellow Windows lovers and fanboys - the ONLY reasons MS ever took the lead from Apple and other innovators was that Gates made the decision to license, and tied his fortunes to Deep Blue's Deep Pockets and powerful sales team. They had a fairly good WP (Word - originally made for Apple!), and later other good office apps - but their OS was always lousy. (And I would know - I ran it from DOS 3.0 forward!)
Also, Google's FREE office apps are making serious progress, as is Linux and other Open Source stuff - and Apple is gaining market share by the minute! (Much of this thanks to Vista!)
Windows is going down the tubes - it may die hard, but unless they totally change their model and M.O., they are going down...
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Windows Collapsing Under Its Own Weight - Gartner [view article]
Well, one replacement for Windows should be ready by end of year - G.ho.st the Global Hosted Operating SysTem at G.ho.st - a fresh Web based approach to the computing environment ReplyWalker
Windows Collapsing Under Its Own Weight - Gartner [view article]
Microsoft never tested Vista enough. Adobe software like CS3 will not run on it on a Quad-Core Dell PC so we downgraded a Vista machine to XP and it worked fine. Before that Vista ran very slowly and with poor performance. In Vista, there was a lack of drivers and bad hardware integration. It is a very green operating system - a useless piece of junk. Prices in Australia are falling from $799 to $499 for Vista to try and move stock but users are not stupid and will not stomach a junk operating system upgrade like Vista. May be Microsoft is on the run from Linux and really wrecked the Vista launch by not testing and trying to ship to fight off competitors. If Linux keeps up the good work, Windows will eventually fall by the wayside. I sure hope Yahoo! beats Microsoft's takeover bid so Microsoft doesn't wreck Yahoo! too. Yahoo! should never have let Microsoft import Yahoo! Messenger users to Microsoft Messenger. After that Microsoft got greedy and wanted to take over Yahoo! Never partner with Microsoft. They end up buying out the partner. ReplyWindows Collapsing Under Its Own Weight - Gartner [view article]
I think we all love to hate Microsoft.App bloating isn't a MS only problem. Mac updates aren't coming out less frequently. You can't run any of the 700 flavors of Linux without tools to manage its ever growing updates and complex interactions with other systems, and virus defs, and on and on. The world IS getting more complicated, and all systems, MS or not, have to adapt.
Gartner and a prior reader were correct about specific adjustments.
- Licensing needs to promote user mobility vs punishing it.
- Specialized versions, maybe even concurrently running on the same box might simplify some specialized server applications, but not likely the "gotta run everything on one desktop" crowd
- Virtualization does create separation between the hardware and operating system which we like. We run upwards of 15-20 virtual machines per computer. Certainly the more you run, the more demands on the hardware. We buy lots of new machines as a result, and the economies are absolutely compelling. ROIs of a month or two. The author's "too big for the hardware" chart seems irrelavant to anything.
But these are technical things, and people have choices.
As an investor, my question is more like..
What is Microsoft doing right ?
I want to know who the wiinners are.
How is it, that with Sun's free office clone, and myriad fine choices for hardware and O/s.... Why do people, and corporations, overwhelmingly vote for Microsoft with their dollars ?
Don't care about technical snits, whether the O/S and apps run on Intel, under VM, or on a 20 year old Tandy. I want to guage Microsoft's ability to generate earnings going forward.
Gartner didn't say "Windows is collapsing under its own weight". They said Windows is monolithic. That comes with being the dominant operating system, across virtually all end user applictions, for two decades.
I suspect Microsoft is working to overcome the issues that come with success so they can continue growing.
Like it or not gang, Microsoft is wildly successful. We might as well focus on why, not why not.
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Windows Collapsing Under Its Own Weight - Gartner [view article]
Mini point to was_fred: Apple's System 10.4 (Tiger) does support Classic applications. Can't speak for most recent (10.5) but I think classic runs under 10.5 as well. But only on a non-Intel Mac. Its only Intel Macs that won't run classic. All PPC Mac do. So, I'm not sure what your point is regarding Vista. ReplyWindows Collapsing Under Its Own Weight - Gartner [view article]
Why bother trying even hard to make Windows into Mac.Just switch.
;-) Reply
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Windows Collapsing Under Its Own Weight - Gartner [view article]
Some major problems with MS:[1] Operating system
Linux has come a very long way, and may grow when MS cuts off support for XP. Since Vista uptake has been very poor and well below its own expectations, MS will have to make a smart business decision about XP.
[2] Advertising
The yahoo acquisition reminds me of HPQ buying Compaq. It didn't really help HP but it did take out a competitor. Maybe this is what MS needs to do to gain market share
On the plus side:
[3] SQL 2008 - 2005 was already a very good release
[4] Visual Studio - MS is giving away the studio edition to students. I repeat, giving it away! They have taken a page out of open source and are trying to get young bright people to use this development tool.
[5] X-Box360
The growth is in gaming consoles. Halo 3 was a big win. Reply
Windows Collapsing Under Its Own Weight - Gartner [view article]
windows is and always will be a 16 bit extension on an 8 bit patch on top of a 4 bit operating system from a 2 bit company that can't take 1 bit of competitionthe hooks and holes left in it over twenty years so everything will run on it is why its so easy to hack. they have to accommodate good and bad code from manufacturers.
its time to get a mac folks ! why wait foe windoze 7 when OSX is her today Microsoft will never get it right. Reply
Windows Collapsing Under Its Own Weight - Gartner [view article]
Microsoft could phase out support for legacy applications the same way Apple did. System 10.4 no longer supports "Classic" applications. While the user base needed to update their software, the phase-out was slow enough to allow them to do so without too much pain. MS could do the same - starting with Vista service packs - y concentrating on the future and allowing legacy apps to run in a compatibility box. Virtualization is real enough right now. Using a virtual machine to manage the past and streamlining the OS to do away with legacy baggage would provide a good path to the future.As long as they don't make driver registration onerous, they could succeed. Also, for performance reasons, they would have to provide the ability for drivers to hook to a kernel which may actually have to use some - dare I say - hand-tuned assembly code. Just because you have the space and the processors are getting faster doesn't mean that you should expand the bloat of the OS an applications to stress test the newest, fastest machines. Remember when Word fit on a single 1.4M floppy? Modular can be a good thing, if it's done right. Reply
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Windows Collapsing Under Its Own Weight - Gartner [view article]
Virtualization and stripped-down, pre-fab os versions are already in Windows Server 2008. Well, they're still trying to get virtualization to work properly. I'm sure they'll move these features into the next desktop Windows, or at least try to.However: too little, too late, and won't work. That's the Microsoft way.
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This is exactly why Ballmer is so desperate to close the YHOO deal.@coeus89 ... the problem with Vista is that it does not have compelling new features, it is slower, it is more complicated to use. MSFT spent years and a small fortune to develop it and it's a complete mess. MSFT has not produced anything really decent or outstanding for quite sometime and now even the bread and butter corporate customers are refusing to take the "scheduled Microsoft tax", simply, because there is no obvious value in the newer versions.
At the same time Linux is making more and more progress - facing the same hardware, user needs.
And finally MSFT on the Internet - well, they just never made it there, no matter how hard they tried or how much money they spent. The money MSFT accumulated in the past covers the more and more obvious: Microsoft has lost touch with customers, even with the new directions of the industry.
Ballmer clings on to YHOO as a castaway to a lifebelt. Reply
Windows Collapsing Under Its Own Weight - Gartner [view article]
Your Linux Is More Than Ready ReplyWindows Collapsing Under Its Own Weight - Gartner [view article]
The Gartner Group have LONG been a pack of "Windows toadies". To hear them issue this kind of critique is very encouraging. Perhaps the Redmond beast WILL fall under Ballmer. Hallelujah.My take on Win 7 is that it still ain't UNIX-based, so don't expect adequate performance, security, or stability. And there'll probably be 15 slightly different, confusing versions! It won't solve their problems. Reply