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  • commenter
    Iknownothing
    Jun 25 12:43 PM
    U.S. Bank Dividend Yields Revisited [view article]
    The CEO of BAC stated rather emphatically that they would not cut the dividend. And, based on this year and next year's earnings estimates there is no reason to disbelieve him.

    Some write downs will be write UPS next year.

    And, in answer to a previous poster.... we always picked up casualties (wounded) while bullets were still flying.     Reply
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    kurt walter
    Jun 25 12:37 PM
    U.S. Bank Dividend Yields Revisited [view article]
    I don't understand how upper management of most of these banks have a job. Many should have been fired months ago. Reply
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    hendi_alex
    Jun 25 10:40 AM
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    U.S. Bank Dividend Yields Revisited [view article]
    Previous pseudonym was 'eyes wide opened' chosen for one post many months ago. Have updated pseudonym to match that used at investorvillage.com boards. Reply
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    hendi_alex
    Jun 25 10:22 AM
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    U.S. Bank Dividend Yields Revisited [view article]
    I like BAC and have been considering taking a position in this beaten down financial giant. Regardless of a dividend cut or not, would consider the stock to be a great long term investement. But shorter term, related to the timing of an entry, does anyone have a concern over the POR of the bank. Yahoo shows the payout ratio as 104%. The dividend is 64 cents per quarter, and earnings.com shows earning of Q2 2007 through Q1 2008 as $1.28, .82, .05, .23. I'm wondering how much of those earnings are related to write downs that may have nothing to do with short term cash flow. Am also thinking that much of those 100% writedowns will not really be 100% losses and in the next year or two will be added back to the books. Finally, I would think that as soon as write downs are history, the earnings number will immediate rebound to a decent level. Anyone have a guess as to the likelihood of a dividend cut for BAC. It would seem that shortly after such a cut may be the best time to initiate a postition in the bank. Reply
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    Dee Trooth
    Jun 25 09:56 AM
    U.S. Bank Dividend Yields Revisited [view article]
    Evaluating the accuracy of the article reveals that the author's research was good and probably perfect at the time is was done. My update using, Yahoo Finaace, for, June 24, yields the following, 9 Div. Ylds. are the Same;10 Div. Ylds. are Higher; 6 Div. Ylds. are Lower. The lower yielders are, C, WB, WM, NCC, FITB, HBAN. My thanks to, The Sun and Seeking Alpha. Reply
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    sharksm
    Jun 25 09:50 AM
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    U.S. Bank Dividend Yields Revisited [view article]
    I've owned 6,000 shares of BAC for many years. By buying Countrywide, Ken Lewis has risked the credibility of what , in my opinion was the best bank. If he is able to make this buy a success and not cut the dividend, I will apologize, but if the dividend is cut, that s.o.b. should get thrown out on his ass, without a parachute! Reply
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    william
    taylor
    Jun 25 09:22 AM
    U.S. Bank Dividend Yields Revisited [view article]
    I have had a large investment in BAC for many years and recently bought more. I re invest all my dividends and the compounding is considerable. I figure if BAC goes to Hell then the whole country is doomed. I am in for life. Reply
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    hendi_alex
    Jun 25 08:17 AM
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    U.S. Bank Dividend Yields Revisited [view article]
    It may be worth noting that during this past year that both USB and BBT have increased yields not only via share price drop but also because of increasing their distribution level. USB raised its quarterly dividend from 40 cents to 42.5 cents per share for its January payment. BBT just announced a dividend increase from 46 cents to 47 cents per quarter, with its August first payment. For USB, the dividend represents a POR of 68.6% vs. Q1 earnings of 62 cents. For BBT the dividend represents a POR of 64% vs. Q1 earnings. IMO it is premature to say whether the earnings have stablilized yet for either of these banks, but there is a nice margin of safety supporting the current dividend levels. Further these companies, IMO, would not be raising distribution levels if they anticipated any likelihood of a dividend cut in the next year.

    Note: I own shares of USB, BBT, and IAT, consider each to represent value at current prices and am accumulating in small incremental purchases.     Reply
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    nxs_uno
    Jun 25 07:42 AM
    U.S. Bank Dividend Yields Revisited [view article]
    National City 20%? Why waste my time looking at his data if it is not correct? Good Lord, if he wants credibility, he needs to do some timely research into his facts. FITB just reduced their dividend for next Q. Lot of inaccuracy on this chart. Reply
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    EE
    Jun 25 07:18 AM
    U.S. Bank Dividend Yields Revisited [view article]
    Then there's inflation at an admitted 4% but really double that and soon to be triple. My $ are in very small new firms having global footprints about to be profitable or there,and huge growth in their headlights. Talking resources, silver, molly, copper, oil, gas, gold, water, technology. They are all beaten down to wonderful levels. I figure sooner or later, folks will bale the big stocks and look for places with large earnings growth track records and potential even if they are less than $5 stocks now. Dividends in hyper inflation mean nothing unless it is a stock dividend in a fast growing firm that is under valued. I'd give examples but then some would suggest I'm hyping a poor stock I trying to unload. It is OTC time! Reply
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    EE
    Jun 25 06:46 AM
    U.S. Bank Dividend Yields Revisited [view article]
    Even after the war is over (2010-2011) their earning power will be greatly reduced, and after some unpredictable knee jerk up action they probably will stagnate for a long time under reform rules or practice. This is dead and dying $. Reply
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    Dan Walker
    Jun 25 06:29 AM
    U.S. Bank Dividend Yields Revisited [view article]
    Don't you think it prudent to wait until the shooting stops before you start picking up causalities? Reply
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    paperboy
    Jun 24 11:49 AM
    ETF Update: Financial ETFs, Energy Exploration and ETFs [view article]
    "Offshore oil wouldn't hit the market until 2030" - 22 years?

    Dude, you have to get off of the George Soros websites and talk to some real oil experts. Oil from new offshore rigs could be in your corner gas station in less than 3 years, depending on the location and the depth of the source.


    On Jun 20 03:33 AM Panskeptic wrote:

    > As has been pointed out by others, the ones calling for a bottom
    > in financials didn't see the crash coming, so who cares what they
    > think?
    >
    > And if you started tomorrow on offshore oil, it wouldn't hit the
    > market till 2030, and at present consumption rates, we'd use it up
    > in 2 1/2 years. This theater is just to pacify the oil guys who go
    > nuts whenever you say, "Sorry, you can't drill there. No, it's the
    > Washington Monument, you can't put a rig there. No. You can't." And
    > Texas oil guys go "Whaaaaaaaaaaa!!!...
    >
    > Tom, you're spending too much time with Fox Noise. All that happy
    > talk is bad for your judgment.     Reply
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    Panskeptic
    Jun 20 03:33 AM
    ETF Update: Financial ETFs, Energy Exploration and ETFs [view article]
    As has been pointed out by others, the ones calling for a bottom in financials didn't see the crash coming, so who cares what they think?

    And if you started tomorrow on offshore oil, it wouldn't hit the market till 2030, and at present consumption rates, we'd use it up in 2 1/2 years. This theater is just to pacify the oil guys who go nuts whenever you say, "Sorry, you can't drill there. No, it's the Washington Monument, you can't put a rig there. No. You can't." And Texas oil guys go "Whaaaaaaaaaaa!!!...

    Tom, you're spending too much time with Fox Noise. All that happy talk is bad for your judgment.     Reply
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    Gajah
    Jun 19 11:37 AM
    Why Index Investing Isn't Passive Investing [view article]
    To answer your point about the efficient market hypothesis: it assumes that all available information is included in the share price. I think the amount of information available about a company, even to the people running it is very limited. Therefore investors often buy stocks based on information that is not relevant, giving them false confidence. Hence the dismal performance of actively managed funds.

    Somewhere there is a balance between knowing nothing and thinking you know everything there is to know. I suppose the reason the 'exclusive/selective' indexes outperform the 'real benchmarks' in the long-term is that they are based on information with an optimal level of detail: you know big companies will tend to stick around. For the rest, you don't know, right? Did you see the credit crunch coming? Most bank executives sure as hell didn't!

    As for underperformance during a bear market and outperformance during a bull market: I think most stock trading is speculative. Probably 80% of a company's shares will remain untraded for a year, whereas 20% of the shares are traded perhaps 10 times, explaining a share turnover of 200% per year. Essentially, only 20% of a company's share capital may be 'in play', thus setting the price.

    Because companies in an 'exclusive/selective' index are very liquid (and the index itself is traded too), they are ideal for speculating and therefore more suceptible to market sentiments, making the troughs deeper and the peaks higher.

    Those are my thoughts as a happy and relatively ignorant owner of 'exclusive/selective' index funds.     Reply
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