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  • Mr. Knowitall
    $BBRY, $GOOG, $AAPL, DoD Proffers Plan for Secure Mobile Devices http://bit.ly/15iWnHe?odyssey=nav|head http://bit.ly/ZJ7tWB
    2/27/13
    Reply (39)
    • Mr. Knowitall: No longer a BlackBerry exclusive.
      2/27/13
    • Nefas: Luke i hope you covered your shorts yesterday....grimm weeks coming ahead for shorts
      2/27/13
    • oneinfiniteloop: There is a para in there that is worth a read - "...guidance for the use of personally owned mobile devices within DoD's environment,..."
      2/27/13
    • oneinfiniteloop: DISA is going to take 90 days to come out with their guidelines for which devices will fall into which category - so stay tuned...
      2/27/13
    • vanebfbc: That still does not make other devices superior over Blackberry. The difference in security level still depends on the fundamentals.
      2/27/13
    • Mr. Knowitall: What it does mean though is that BlackBerry is no longer the security leader, and the DoD realizes it and is now opening up to the others.
      2/27/13
    • Nefas: WHO THE FUCK CARES? :D
      2/27/13
    • Mr. Knowitall: Well, I would suppose those holding shares long, and those holding puts long :-P
      2/27/13
    • Nefas: You dont get it man. BBRY will always hold the biggest chunk in Government. For one simple Reason...they are state of the art atm .
      2/27/13
    • oneinfiniteloop: Luke, why would you conclude that "Blackberry is no longer the security leader...", all it means is DoD wants to give others a chance...
      2/27/13
    • oneinfiniteloop: A companies leadership is not lost- just because BYOD is becoming a reality it doesn't mean it dilutes the security differentiation of $BBRY
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    • oneinfiniteloop: Nefas, don't lose your cool, it is just an exchange of thoughts - everybody has a right to express one. Glad that Luke is posting these.
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    • Mr. Knowitall: DoD is not just being nice to the other device manufacturers though. I think they realize BlackBerry is no longer the only game in town
      2/27/13
    • Mr. Knowitall: yes Nef, stay cool .. I look forward our exchanges! BTW, my #1 goal is to make money .. I want to be corrected if I'm not seeing something.
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    • oneinfiniteloop: Luke, all I am saying is that like Client/Server, Cloud, this is the next step in evolution and every organization has to adopts to it...
      2/27/13
    • oneinfiniteloop: ...BYOD is one such shift but that doesn't mean that $BBRY is getting shafted because others have a better security offering...
      2/27/13
    • oneinfiniteloop: ...IMO it is just that DoD is gearing up for BYOD and adjusting its operational procedures to accomodate this change - in fact I would...
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    • oneinfiniteloop: trust a platform like BES that has consistently delivered to set security goals to help manage new residents and teach them to behave :)
      2/27/13
    • Mr. Knowitall: I think BYOD is a problem for BB in that the playing field is wide open now and BB no longer owns the (gov) enterprise.
      2/27/13
    • Nefas: BYOD is a good thing for BBRY now thx to Balance!
      2/27/13
    • turtledividend: In 2004, BBRY Enterprise Server was installed in more than 17,000 companies and government organizations worldwide. Where is it now?
      2/27/13
    • turtledividend: BB needs to capture the retail market more than ever because numerous departments/companies are dropping BBRY. Just FYI.
      2/27/13
    • Nefas: Seems to me you didnt even dig into BBRY a little bit. Cause i cant explain why else you would say somthing so unfounded!
      2/27/13
    • turtledividend: $NOK has their eyes on $BBRY corporate clients, it has been stated by management. Android and iOS got a head start.
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    • Nefas: You are NOK long i bet.I am too but i am not as biased as you. Nokia only has eyes on BBRY cause they failed at APPL, Samsung
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    • Nefas: Guess what BBRY wont fail as hard as NOK!
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    • turtledividend: Nefas not here to contest. Ntsb, DoD, immigration are some of the federal agencies opting out of $BBRY and sure others to follow.
      2/27/13
    • turtledividend: Qwerty and security was $BBRY selling points but are now being surpassed by other leading phone manufacturers.
      2/27/13
    • turtledividend: $NOK is a global company with over 1 billion users vs 79 million $BBRY. For sure I am more confident being a Nokia shareholder.
      2/27/13
    • turtledividend: " $NOK has their eyes on $BBRY corporate clients " because they know they'll be losing market share in that area. Not retail customers.
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    • Nefas: K to get your facts straight. Most of Nokia sales are garbage phones. They have literally no Value just like the now introduced 15€ phones!
      2/27/13
    • Nefas: And DOD isnt opting out they are just evaluating. Nothing is decided yet. Yes they will probably take a big more Apple and Android.
      2/27/13
    • Nefas: But who cares? BBRY will still keep the biggest chunk and will gain back normal Customers.
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    • Nefas: I give BBRY a lot more potential over all! For one simple Reason. They have QNX, Companies and will gain back huge amount of customers!
      2/27/13
    • turtledividend: A goose fills its stomach kernel by kernel for it to lay golden eggs. So every kernel counts for Nokia's conservative approach.
      2/27/13
    • turtledividend: I was just agreeing with Luke's comments on his thread. Not hear to start a bi partisanship.
      2/27/13
    • C.E.: Dumping meego for unproven win phone is hardly called a conservative approach
      2/28/13
    • vanebfbc: Everyone has his/her rights to express opinions. No need to get emotional here. While I think BBRY will have a successful comeback...
      2/28/13
    • vanebfbc: there is still a long way to go, not to mention many shorts are still bashing it relentlessly. Only time and patience will tell, we'll see.
      2/28/13