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Small Homebuilders: A Bargain vs. Book Value
USG Corp: Another Buffett 'Failure to Sell' Mistake
You asked me how I would value USG and my answer is, "I don't know." Then again, I didn't write the article so I would not be expected to know... You wrote the article and your thesis is that because the stock was higher at some point he should have sold it.
Hmmmm. Does it follow logically that just because a stock is trading far from its high price that not selling it was a mistake given the information one had at the time? Of course not! 20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing to have.
Regarding those that criticize Buffett's record - it is pretty funny. It's only one of the best of all time. He is not perfect for sure but come on and give him his due. I wonder what it takes to get a compliment out of you folks...
Battle of the Building Material Makers: Owens Corning vs. USG Corp.
Additionally, I would not want to rely on the company to give me an unbiased and accurate view of the likelihood of their current contracts costing them a lot of money. All of their incentives point in the other direction. I would be a bit suspect if there is a large gap between what the market is implying and what their management is telling investors.
Battle of the Building Material Makers: Owens Corning vs. USG Corp.
USG Corp: Another Buffett 'Failure to Sell' Mistake
How about we assume Warren is somewhat rational (I don't think this is too far a stretch) and work backwards from there. At what valuation point would he have sold USG when it got as high as it did? If he thought it was worth $80 per share (meaning it would continue to return pretty good returns to investors at that price going forward), for example, would he have sold it at $120? I don't think he would. Given the taxes he would have had to pay and the uncertainty of being able to reenter the stock at an equivalent after-tax price, there is a strong argument to be made that he would simply hold on. If he originally bought at $50 he would have to pay tax on $70 of appreciation and that might be almost $30 per share right there.
Perhaps if he thought the company was worth $60 he may have sold, but he would not have invested at the prices that he did originally if he really thought it only worth that much as that would not give him all that much margin of safety.
I find your analysis to be quite shallow and unconvincing. It seems to me that your basic argument is that since the price now is well below the stock's recent high price that not selling it was stupid. But, of course, value investors believe that stocks often trade for significantly less than their fair value - so this movement in price would not be a shock to anyone who thinks this way.
If USG moves back up to $150 in 3 years, who would be right then?
Thornburg Mortgage Series F Preferred: Another Way to Skin a Cat
Just keep your eye on the ball and when the stock exceeds the 130% threshold, sell the corresponding number of shares short, convert your F, and deliver the shares from the conversion to close out the short position.
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13 Notes on Financials and Real Estate
Have you looked at:
(1) Natural amortization of housing over time if builders are actually rational,
(2) Normal population growth which I believe is more than 0%.
The builders are the key here as they must act rationally. However, if they do and if (1) + (2) is greater than the loss of the boomers to the south than no problems will arise.
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