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The Impending Mortgage Crisis: Part Two
At some point it makes a difference. Your SAYING it makes no sense, makes no sense.
At 0%, I personally can afford say a much nicer car than I could at say 20%. His whole argument is based on affordability. If you want to base an argument on affordability then don't throw up a graph that isn't based on what someone actually pays - not what they pay FOR.
If you instead, want to base an argument on the tightening of credit standards and increased downpayments, then gimme a graph on that.
Sure, you had a housing bubble in Schiller's 20 markets. But I don't live there, and many people don't. That's why his first graph is actually pretty tame compared to the second one.
A good house is more afforable now than at many times within the last 20 yrs, although he would have you not believe that.
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The Impending Mortgage Crisis: Part Two
2007 1.397857594
2006 1.478314538
2005 1.432964409
2004 1.325094098
2003 1.232645673
2002 1.244852812
2001 1.240424748
2000 1.348800449
1999 1.285290782
1998 1.222953977
1997 1.297901204
1996 1.323260469
1995 1.336008158
1994 1.387439202
1993 1.260211257
1992 1.400404179
1991 1.497202082
1990 1.580267027
1989 1.583155393
1988 1.559526208
1987 1.546642267
1986 1.546642267
1985 1.808460137
1984 2.008946707
1983 1.973803225
1982 2.365982548
1981 2.487876013
1980 2.134449551
1979 1.702172503
1978 1.447718253
1977 1.340200308
1976 1.256437789
1975 1.279111413
1974 1.204463997
1973 1.059771781
1972 1
Not nearly so bad as your graph makes it look, and your graph actually doesn't even make it look awful.
Are US Inflationary Concerns Inflated?
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B) Shadowstats is a web site built to MAKE MONEY. Of course it is going to be sensationalist. Ignore it until he makes his newsletter free.
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The Impending Mortgage Crisis
Simply put, a 6% interest rate will pay 50% more interest than a 4% interest rate- and will effectively increase the house payment by 50%."
If you used simple ratios based on interest rates, your numbers are all off. Obviously a 1% rate loan does not have half the payment of a 2% rate loan. Bad math, my friend.
The Impending Mortgage Crisis
"One need only play with a mortgage payment calculator to figure out how screwed up rents vs. asking prices are: Find a single family home for rent. Enter the market rent as the payment, use a market 30 yr fixed interest rate, and solve for present value. THAT is the breakeven point for the owner and the actual value of the home (don't forget to allow some room for taxes and insurance etc.)"
Profit <> Positive Cash Flow.
If I buy something and have payments of X...then I rent it to you for X, I have no cash flow. But, at the end of the payments, I have a paid for asset and you have a rent payment of X.
Rent does not need to equal payments. At the limit of interest rates going to infinity, rent does need to closely equal payments. At the limit of interest rates going to zero, this need is at its minimum.
The Impending Mortgage Crisis
You don't get what I am saying. Normalizing on payment takes into account BOTH price and interest rates - both of which are key when deciding affordability. If rates went to zero, affordability would be higher than if rates went to 20%.
So, if you truly want to account for affordability, which the author implies is what he is doing with his graph, then he should not be plotting price versus income.
Just taking 5 points on his graph and normalizing for interest rates,
1976 Payment on $100k is $ 800 (base point)
1981 Payment on $100k is $1400 (a "peak" in his graph)
1984 Payment on $100k is $1059 (a "low" in his graph)
1991 Payment on $100k is $ 826 (a "peak" in his graph)
1995 Payment on $100k is $ 665 (a "low" in his graph)
2005 Payment on $100k is $ 593 (a peak in his graph)
So, his first high in 1981 should be much higher (14/8 * value), or about 200%
His first low point should be higher also, or about 125%
So, these are the equivalents:
1976 100
1981 200
1984 125
1991 140
1995 80
2005 140
As you can see, the parabolic number he shows in his graph is much reduced and suddenly falls well within range of the past values.
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The Impending Mortgage Crisis
2007 6.3
2006 6.4
2005 5.9
2004 5.8
2003 5.8
2002 6.5
2001 7.0
2000 8.0
1999 7.5
1998 7.0
1997 7.6
1996 7.8
1995 7.9
1994 8.3
1993 7.3
1992 8.4
1991 9.3
1990 10.1
1989 10.3
1988 10.3
1987 10.2
1986 10.2
1985 12.4
1984 13.9
1983 13.2
1982 16
1981 16.6
1980 13.7
1979 11.2
1978 9.6
1977 8.9
1976 8.9
1975 9.1
1974 9.2
1973 8.0
1972 7.4
See those nice low points on your graph? A $100,000 at 6% has a payment of $600 a month. The same loan at 13.8 % in the 1980's? The payment at 13.8% is $1200 or so. At "just" 9% like in 1991 the payment is $800 or 25% more.
So, if you normalize your graph with respect to HOUSE PAYMENTS, not HOUSE PRICES, you will get a MUCH different graph. One that is more appropriate when calculating affordability of housing.
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"FOLKS: remember the news items on TV regarding the madness in front of the Apple stores to buy the iPhone? Few weeks after that Apple stock topped... "
Huh? The phone went on sale in June...if "a few" weeks means 30, then you are right. Otherwise, not a good analogy.
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Would you really say the functionality/design considerations are the same in a flat screen TV and a Tube? What about a TRS-80 and an Imac? You gotta account for it somehow.
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