Popular Mechanics Gets It Wrong on Buick Hybrid [View article]
Dude,
On the Kwh, you multiplied instead of divided...
On Aug 10 01:45 PM lostark98 wrote:
> OK, so I knew that it would be next to impossible to find any definitive > data on how much electric vs gas fuels cost to produce. And I'm no > one you want to trust with numbers so I was hoping someone could > point me to it! > > It isn't easy to determine the real costs of energy production. None > of the companies break out all the numbers the same and allocations > for investments are handled differently, for example. My rough cut > is based on data from the Energy Information Administration website > (www.eia.doe.gov) as best I can without losing my day job > (using U.S. numbers from 2007 and 2008!) > > It costs roughly $.198/gallon to get the crude to the surface and > another $.64/gallon to get a refined gasoline product. (These are > very, very gross numbers!) For a car that gets 30 mpg that's about > $.0279/mi. > > To produce 1 kW*h in the U.S.A. is roughly $.0548. For an EV that > gets 4 mi/kW*h that's $.2192/mi. > > It costs a lot in fossil fuels to produce electricity (51% of the > U.S. electricity is from coal.) That's why I think the ICE will continue > to be popular until we produce cheap electricity. > > On Aug 10 10:43 AM Alex_G wrote:
Popular Mechanics Gets It Wrong on Buick Hybrid [View article]
Google, Bing, Yahoo will provide you with the answers you seek, my friend...
On Aug 10 09:19 AM lostark98 wrote:
> Has anyone done the math to see if electricity is really a cheaper > (or more environmentally friendly) way than gasoline to power an > automobile? What's the real total cost of producing the electricity > needed to drive 100 miles vs the cost to produce the gasoline to > drive the same distance? Just curious! If there is a link somewhere, > please post.
How Will Ford Hold Up Against Government-Backed Competitors and China? [View article]
Mid term elections are coming up in 2010, and bailing out the UAW will help keep rust belt votes for the Dems. DC hasn't been about the people for many, many years, just about getting re-elected. Term limits and abolition of earmarks would go a long ways in solving this problem, but that won't happen. Get used to a high govt involvement in business and much higher taxes.
On Jun 09 02:06 PM mike defrancesco wrote:
> why does Obama need to be in the car bussiness? doesn`t he have a > country to run, consentrating on getting the economy kick started > would be nice! lets keep Goverment out of publicly held companys > as much as possible, and get people who have some imaganation and > guts in the "Big 3"
Popular Mechanics Gets It Wrong on Buick Hybrid [View article]
On the Kwh, you multiplied instead of divided...
On Aug 10 01:45 PM lostark98 wrote:
> OK, so I knew that it would be next to impossible to find any definitive
> data on how much electric vs gas fuels cost to produce. And I'm no
> one you want to trust with numbers so I was hoping someone could
> point me to it!
>
> It isn't easy to determine the real costs of energy production. None
> of the companies break out all the numbers the same and allocations
> for investments are handled differently, for example. My rough cut
> is based on data from the Energy Information Administration website
> (www.eia.doe.gov) as best I can without losing my day job
> (using U.S. numbers from 2007 and 2008!)
>
> It costs roughly $.198/gallon to get the crude to the surface and
> another $.64/gallon to get a refined gasoline product. (These are
> very, very gross numbers!) For a car that gets 30 mpg that's about
> $.0279/mi.
>
> To produce 1 kW*h in the U.S.A. is roughly $.0548. For an EV that
> gets 4 mi/kW*h that's $.2192/mi.
>
> It costs a lot in fossil fuels to produce electricity (51% of the
> U.S. electricity is from coal.) That's why I think the ICE will continue
> to be popular until we produce cheap electricity.
>
> On Aug 10 10:43 AM Alex_G wrote:
Popular Mechanics Gets It Wrong on Buick Hybrid [View article]
On Aug 10 09:19 AM lostark98 wrote:
> Has anyone done the math to see if electricity is really a cheaper
> (or more environmentally friendly) way than gasoline to power an
> automobile? What's the real total cost of producing the electricity
> needed to drive 100 miles vs the cost to produce the gasoline to
> drive the same distance? Just curious! If there is a link somewhere,
> please post.
How Will Ford Hold Up Against Government-Backed Competitors and China? [View article]
On Jun 09 02:06 PM mike defrancesco wrote:
> why does Obama need to be in the car bussiness? doesn`t he have a
> country to run, consentrating on getting the economy kick started
> would be nice! lets keep Goverment out of publicly held companys
> as much as possible, and get people who have some imaganation and
> guts in the "Big 3"