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    • Tue Sep 9th 07:01 AM | Rating: 0 0
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      Dryshippers: A Buy or a Sell?
      Absolutely these indices and the underlying rates are very volatile. The shipping market has lost a lot of confidence- as evidenced by forward rates, in swap prices, have also come down.

      But, I am bullish since I don't see any change in the fundamental demand picture. And, as pointed out, seasonality would suggest a pickup in Q4. Short term- various dislocations, yes, but China has not stopped producing steel. For stock traders, the shipping stocks present great zigs and zags because of the underlying volatility even in the context of a longer term trend (whether that be up, or down).
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    • Sun May 25th 11:02 AM | Rating: 0 0
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      Dryship's Transformational CEO
      Picking up on posts above, one thing about shipping stocks is that firms with more revenue visibility (often translated into bigger regular dividends) get more respect in the markets, in the forms of higher multiples. The spot markets are too risky, too volatile, for a company with a large fleet to be all spot. George and his peers (many other magnates also MIT educated) know this very well. Capesizes are put on long term charters at DISCOUNTS to current spot rates. See also SBLK for some good successes in this strategy.

      What's been missing through the cycles and years (DRYS ipo was only in 2005) for shipping companies, public and private, is stability and students of the super-cycle know this. So, I agree that DRYS will be around for a while, and it will get bigger, I don't agree that it will continue to grow at exponential clips in perpetuity, as seems to be implied by the original post.

      The rig biz, like shipping, requires huge capital, and ultimately cash flow based security (ie long term charters) will be attractive to lenders or bond buyers (let's not go there!!!) rather than purely asset based.
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    • Mon Mar 24th 20:02 PM | Rating: 0 0
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      Dryships' Short Squeeze Potential
      I brought up price to cash flow because George Economou's presentation at the Capital Link conference highlighted the low ratios. As I said, this was in the DRYBULK session, where I was sitting, only 30 feet away from the man himself, so mentioning tankers here goes off point. This is DRYBULK. The fact that drybulk rates exhibit some of the highest volatilities out there, and the fact that most other shipping stocks try to build in some stability (EXM is perhaps an exception), is why the ratios are so low. To reiterate, George Economou mentioned the ratios, I am a humble reporter to this blog who was sitting in the midst of the session at the Metropolitan Club. If George thinks they are relevant, than who am I to disagree?

      Most analysts are looking at cash flow, and this includes in tankers, or alternatively at the NAV relationship to price. Depreciation does not figure into either of these, its an accounting fiction that's not relevant when asset prices can swing so violently. So traditional EPS is totally irrelevant in looking at shipping stocks and I would not devote a lot of time to it.

      Don't get me wrong, I think DRYS could be a good stock for someone playing a spike. The ratio probably discounts more uncertainty than is warranted, if dissected analytically. But the people chartering, and the investors who got burned when the bottom fell out, are not analytical, they are emotional. I had success with a peer company last year in 4Q but I consider myself lucky rather than smart in selling at the right time. As long as the DRYS fleet is so overwhelmingly spot, there is going to be such a high uncertainty discount which is why those very hefty earnings are getting the "low" multiples as noted in George Economou's presentation. The same ratio translates back into the market cap being "low". By the way, George was not the only one lamenting this sorry state. Many of the CEO's were presenting their companies as undervalued on this basis. So, there are always good trading opportunities, but it's not industrial "buy and hold" shipping in the traditional sense.

      Speaking of tankers, they did get a bump up when Frontline took a whack at OSG. That deal was possibly done while Freddy and Morten were sitting at dinner together the night before Capital Link in front of 800 of their closest friends, at another conference. Not sure where this will lead, but we can save this for another board.
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    • Mon Mar 24th 14:57 PM | Rating: 0 0
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      Dryships' Short Squeeze Potential
      George Economou gave an excellent presentation last Thurs at Capital Link, but, to be honest, many of the more conservative investors sitting in the crowd there (standing room only during drybulk sessions with special attention to DRYS and EXM) are spooked by all the volatility in the stock late last year. The forward market suggests flatlining of the spot market, then further falloff later in the year. So I would say that some jam-up of charterers in April (as ore season resumes) could ignite a "fire" in DRYS and cause the momentum boys to jump onboard. But, if this happens, don't confuse it with a really fundamentals driven run-up.

      Shipping stocks were always historically very cheap in the pre 2007 days, so the low Price to Cash Flow could probably stand some upward correction, but traders more nimble than me will pick the right exit point after it spikes upward. The low P/CF reflect the inherant volality in the spot market. It's not the type of stock that you could put a kid thru college on, as long as they are overwhelmingly spot. I am neither short nor long here. I sold some peers back in October, right at the top, but would not attempt that tapdance again.
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    • Mon Mar 24th 14:10 PM | Rating: 0 0
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      Dry Bulk Shipper Anomaly in Spot Pricing Creates Buy Opportunity
      The charter numbers quoted actually made it into the Journal of Commerce, but the JOC never understood the freight futures market, now, did they?

      There are very slight premiums for 2 Q 2008 settle on paper contracts,but overall, 2008 presents parity withs spot, at best, for Panamaxes and Capes. But do you really think that George Economou will put his fleet out on time charter to capture these numbers? He put three ships on period last Oct/ Nov at the peak. Out of thirty something, maybe forty in the fleet. The forward curve is downward sloping for a reason guys.
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    • Sun Nov 18th 15:57 PM | Rating: 0 0
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      Two Shipping IPOs: Navios Maritime Partners, Global Ship Lease
      7% is a good starting point. Recent OSG Master Limited Partnership came in a little over 7 %. "EGLE", a drybulk stock (vaguely a peer of NMM) comes in a little under 7 % depending on stock px.

      But, anybody have any gossip about why French guys pulled the leasing IPO?
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