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Andrew Ling
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First Solar Now in Its Third Leg Up
I was telling people that when forward PE rolled over this year to over $5, no one would consider FSLR grossly overvalued anymore, and the shorts would run for cover. Sure enough short interest has fallen off a cliff. They are likely shorting FSLR's competitors instead such as SPWR. Basically the longer a stock stays "overvalued" the more the market gets used to it and no longer considers it overvalued. Hence the theory of moving averages.
First Solar Now in Its Third Leg Up
The Tellurium Supernova Has Erupted
The State of the Thin-Film Photovoltaic Industry
The most astonishing thing about FSLR to date has been their manufacturing prowess which often overlooked but cannot be overstated. Less than 1 year ago their lines were rated at 25MW/year. They are already up to 44MW/line which greatly reduces costs and increases revenues. As they were already running 24/7 on 4 shifts/day to achieve 25MW/year/line the gains were obviously major leaps forward. I suspect one reason they haven't announced 4 new plants yet is because they're still trying to tweak out more production from their old ones.
The State of the Thin-Film Photovoltaic Industry
The State of the Thin-Film Photovoltaic Industry
Colin, CSP may be in all the headlines right now with all the huge several hundred megawatt panels, but much like wind the technology has been around so long that the best way for them to reduce costs is simply by increasing system size. I don't think smaller distributed systems are the way to go. CSP may have low materials costs but there are also maintenance costs which would increase with smaller systems. Besides that, you lose power output/acre when building outside the Arizona and Nevada deserts. I've looked at the major alternatives to PV but they all cost at least $2.00-$2.50/watt, including nuclear. At that price there's presently no urgency for CSP as it's not quite at grid parity. However, I'm an adamant peak oil theorist and if Oil were to break above $200 in the next few years, which has been my #1 wildcard reason for investing in FSLR (best return on energy investment among the major players), wind, CSP, EVs, nuclear, and coal would be the only real ways to make up the slack. Attention would shift away from the "future" in PV towards today.
I'm not an expert in CSP but I can't imagine one of them coming through with a breakthrough proprietary technology. So if they did IPO I wouldn't be particularly interested. Colin, do you have any info on the installed costs for distributed CSP?
I've also owned STP, SPWR, CREE, CCJ, and ZOLT over the last two years but in the end I always sell them off when their stocks start behaving improperly e.g. weak relative strength. I would still consider buying SPWR if polysilicon prices drop drastically, CREE if LED prices drop drastically, and CCJ or FXI if I can't find anything more attractive to buy.
What I'd really like to invest in is an Electric Vehicle company like Tesla that can challenge the major automakers. I'm surprised there aren't major EV players out of China or India dominating the market already. Unfortunately they're losing their window of opportunity as the GM Volt and next-gen Prius will come out in a couple years.
The State of the Thin-Film Photovoltaic Industry
The State of the Thin-Film Photovoltaic Industry
This is why I'm turned off by the CIGS companies. None of them have delivered on their timetables to date. Nanosolar said they would produce 400MW by the end of 2007. Yet with only a few hundred million dollars, the math didn't add up. Sure enough they produced perhaps 1MW. Perhaps the building is big enough to produce 400 MW some day but they forgot to mention it was 95% empty right now. It's the exact opposite of what you have with FSLR which has risen by 30%+ 3 of the 4 quarters they've announced earnings thats to underpromising and overdelivering.
Cloudy Future for Applied Material's SunFab - Barron's
Installation costs really are one of the few things the monocrystaline manufacturers have going for them, along with limited area systems such as the retail market. Lower efficiency panels involve higher installation costs.
The State of the Thin-Film Photovoltaic Industry
This year FSLR will cross the $1/watt threshold which will make their product cheaper than monocrystaline even if silicon were free. With by far the largest margins in the business it's no wonder FSLR is the first solar stock to touch new highs. People used to think STP was the "safe play" in solar because of their low PE. Obviously they were wrong as STP has been hammered this year. If there's oversupply in 2009 and beyond FSLR will be hurt, but not nearly as much as STP and the like. They will be struggling to stay in the black.
The State of the Thin-Film Photovoltaic Industry
That's stunning at only 4 MW/year. The entry may be slightly outdated but it's still an eye opener. Like I said all the CIGS companies have major obstacles to overcome.
The State of the Thin-Film Photovoltaic Industry
The State of the Thin-Film Photovoltaic Industry
Steve, I guarantee you Nanosolar is unable to produce at $.60/watt today. They've spent hundreds of millions to produce maybe 20 MW so far. They're having all kinds of problems and missing all kinds of goals on their roadmap. I remember when I heard in Feb. 2007 how Nanosolar was going to produce 400 MW at $.60/watt by the end of 2007 I nearly passed on buying FSLR. At the same time FSLR was supposed to turn profitable in 2009. The track records speak for themselves. I also drove by their headquarters and I was not impressed. By 2010 the smaller companies that fail to achieve breakthroughs will find it difficult to obtain financing. For a newer technology to displace an older one it has to be far superior. With conversion efficiencies of 6% and countless manufacturing problems CIGS has hardly proven itself superior. The lower the efficiency the higher the installation costs will be.
Cloudy Future for Applied Material's SunFab - Barron's
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The State of the Thin-Film Photovoltaic Industry
Zawy, I doubt FSLR purchases any equipment from AMAT. FSLR has been in the business longer and is very secretive about their proprietary manufacturing techniques. It wouldn't make sense to allow AMAT to develop their equipment and risk them selling it to competitors.