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Demand More for Your Auto Bailout Dollar; Oil Patch Should Bounce Back Long Term
Increasing their benefits will do nothing but increase the cost of the cars to the US consumers. That won't help our overall economy. Guess I'm kind of confused as to why we should increase the cost of a successful company to allow for unsuccessful companies to compete. The overall problem with the auto industry is that we are building too many cars/trucks overall. Reducing the overall manufacturing capacity by 30% would bring supply in line with demand. Building more cars in GM/Ford/Chrysler plants that no one wants won't help. I own 2 GM SUV's, 1 GM pickup and a Nissan pickup (my son's). all 4 vehicles bought at 20-30% below the MSRP. That tells me there is too much supply.
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Demand More for Your Auto Bailout Dollar; Oil Patch Should Bounce Back Long Term
Agree that the market for my 4 gas hogs will get worse when prices go up but here's the decision: spend a few dollars more per month on 4 vehicles or drop $100,000 right now to replace them! I've already factored in virtually no trade in value in the equation and it still doesn't make financial sense. Plus, I love the ride in my Suburban on vacations and I like the flexibility and work I get from the pick up!
And yes, if the taxpayers are giving them money, we should expect something in return. But I'd rather not give them my money, particularly if it ends up in union hands. or bad management's hands.
Agree about takeovers. Big shareholder of CHK and would love to see a takeover. However, look at companies with lots of cash on their balance sheet to do the buying. XOM has enough to buy everyone else, but this isn't their style. BP, CHV, etc. maybe.
Longoil: are you seriously telling me that it is GOOD for the government to tell me what is best for me?? I don't care who's running the gov't, that is never a good idea in a free country. Should they take away all of our forks because lord knows we might stab ourselves with them??? Rather, they should use incentives to get people to use more efficient cars. Tax breaks to buy more efficient cars I can live with. Mandates that tell car builders they cannot build a car? nope, Mr. Jefferson and Mr. Washington would have had a problem with that.
Demand More for Your Auto Bailout Dollar; Oil Patch Should Bounce Back Long Term
In my opinion, McCain lost a great opportunity to win the last election by supporting the bail out. Had he stood against it, I think he would had a much better shot at winning the election. Our gov't is headed toward a place where most of us are not comfortable: being the owners of large portions of our major industries/services including banking, automakers, healthcare, etc.
I really like the idea of loaning the automakers money with conditions and I like your NG car conditions. I'd also say they should have to reduce their capacity...shut down some plants, etc. Don't necessarily like the mandate that all vehicles get 40 mpg. I own 4 vehicles right now and none get 20 mpg (2 suburbans and 2 pick up trucks). But I'm not going to sell them and go buy something new. That's just not a good use of my money. I'll keep driving these four (or my wife, myself and my two boys will keep driving them) until repair costs are prohibitive.
I'm not a big fan of the Prius due to the carbon footprint it takes to build and assemble one. Many key components built overseas. But I'd buy a NG powered Chevy pick up truck if I could get a NG hook up for the house or the neighborhood fueling station. Of course the environmental folks will get in an uproar over fugitive emissions and the lawyers will sue the pants off anyone when the first refueling accident occurs. But we have NG in this country and could definetly fuel a lot more vehicles with it versus imports.
Also agree on your windfall profits comments. I work in this industry and I know exactly what will happen should our insane gov't slaps an insane tax on us. We will quit spending money in the US and start spending those dollars in other countries. Just the way of the world. Go XOM, Chevron, COP, etc. They are US companies. BP, Shell, Total are not but they are good investments too. Also, Devon, EOG, etc. on the NG side.
Chesapeake Energy Unlikely To Remain this Cheap
On Nov 04 06:08 AM Dr. O. wrote:
> What if natural gas falls to $2-3 from $6?
Chesapeake Energy Unlikely To Remain this Cheap
Chesapeake Energy Unlikely To Remain this Cheap
Brother Maynard: you say nothing has changed since $4 gas?? Well, take a look at production curves. Gas drilled before 2006 is declining rapidly and must be replaced. The drilling that is going on is adding production well north of $4...more like $6. If prices stay below $6, very little drilling will occur, which will make our supply decline at a rate you will be scared of. Then when our production declines, prices will skyrocket. I view a $6 floor here which will still result in lots of rigs being shut down (already happening) and lots of new wells NOT being drilled (already happening...most of the very active companies have dropped their capital budgets by 20% or more). And some wells will be shut in to help boost the price up. Can't see $4 gas for anything more than a month a best and I think there's less than 10% chance we see that.
Nothing has changed? May want to look at US/Canada gas production curves that show production segregated by initial year of production. You will see a harsh picture.
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Chesapeake Bites McLendon
The Haynesville and Fayetteville deals he got from Plains and BP were genious and exceptionally well-timed. At the peak of the market, he was able to sell 25% of his holdings in 2 of the hottest plays; he got prices that were ridiculously high, paying for the portions he retained. And the kicker? He also got Plains and BP to agree to fund $1.8 billion each of drilling costs in 2009. So, he sells a company 25% of an asset for what he bought all the asset for, bringing his cost basis to almost zero. Then he gets that company to pay 100% of the drilling costs but he retains 75% of the operating revenue for a good portion of the 2009 program. Man, wish I could get that kind of leverage. Tony Soprano does, but usually not public companies!
The asset deal they are doing this quarter (reportedly S. Texas and Marcellus) won't be near that sweet. But the assets are exceptional and will pull in an "okay" price.
Cashflow issues easily controlled by doing what everyone else has to do: regulate spending! Breeze through 4Q and then 1Q 09. Stop back in the 40's during 2009 and probably back in the 70's in 2010.
Chesapeake Bites McLendon
Yes, down on the shares I bought at 40 but still up some of my older holdings. But I really am looking further out than the next 2 years.
My only problem right now is that Cramer is back to pushing this stock! Talk about contrarian!!
Tell you what, in 1 year, come back and tell me where CHK is! I'd bet a nice steak and a beer that a) they aren't bankrupt and b) I'll be well in the money! In the meantime, enjoy some good ol' OKC basketball brought to you by Aubrey and friends!
Chesapeake Bites McLendon
Do you think it is right for a company to have to pay a licensing fee to another company for use of their products/ideas? This is similar. The founders started the company, built it, then worked a deal to be compensated. Part of the compensation is this program. Included in their annual reports and in all disclosures is the fact that it exists and that Aubrey will get 2.5% WI in each well. When you buy shares of this company you are subject to these disclosures and in essence, agree to them. Fact: the disclosure says he gets a 2.5% WI. What he makes off of that is not our business. An investor in oil and gas companies should know what getting a 2.5% WI involves.
By now, its well-known that he gets this WI. If someone (you) has a problem with that, then have them not buy the stock.
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Chesapeake Bites McLendon
Please.
And CHK doesn't have a cashflow problem...they have a spending problem. Cut their drilling/leasing budgets in half and they will be socking away cash on their balance sheets.
Actually, without Aubrey's 2.5% program, their cash requirements would be 2.5% higher than they are right now! Not to mention Tom Ward's 2.5%. And again, this was granted to these two guys as founders of the company. Sorry, but that's what was agreed to a long time ago.
Chesapeake Bites McLendon
XTO, HK, CHK, etc all move down viciously in relationship to the price of NG, the view that demand would be going down and along with it the price of NG. Quite honestly, I see lots of people shutting in production and shutting down drilling programs. Drilling permits in the US for nat gas wells are flattening to down. This says production is going to start dropping soon, making the supply/demand balance teeter the other way and prices will move up to about $8. At that point, CHK's knockout hedges will be safe, they will be collecting $9 for their 85% of their gas and their revenues/cashflows will be strong.
Lea: can you guess what CHK's debt-to-cap ratio is?
Chesapeake Bites McLendon
Then, we can have a discussion regarding all of the other items.
Chesapeake Bites McLendon
Was he reckless with his own money? I'll let him, his wife and his kids decide that. I see someone who believed in what he was doing and where his company was going...so much so that he put his own fortune at risk. He could have stuck in CD's or something and been content.
If you look at the debt structure of the company, you will see that they are not in any real danger of having these loans called in. They don't come due for a while. All he has to do to solidify the balance sheet is stop drilling for a couple of quarters or find someone to invest in one of his drilling programs. Quite frankly, I think CHK will be back in the 70's within 3-5 years. I'm not going "all in" like Aubrey did, but I've got a nice chunk of change riding on it. Buying it at $15 was a gift. Worst case scenario: ExxonMobil buys it at $25 between now and the end of the year!!