Dean M's Comments Dean M's Comments RSS Syndication from SeekingAlpha.com http://seekingalpha.comuser/133612/comments How to Trade the Rest of the Year - Goldman Sachs http://seekingalpha.com/article/175314-how-to-trade-the-rest-of-the-year-goldman-sachs?source=feed#comment-777253 777253 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:05:56 -0500 Whatever Happened to Those Ethanol Companies? http://seekingalpha.com/article/174898-whatever-happened-to-those-ethanol-companies?source=feed#comment-776389 776389
On Nov 24 11:21 PM Dean M wrote:

> The name calling just proves you lack the intellect to debate me.]]>
Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:42:56 -0500
On Nov 24 11:21 PM Dean M wrote:

> The name calling just proves you lack the intellect to debate me.]]>
Whatever Happened to Those Ethanol Companies? http://seekingalpha.com/article/174898-whatever-happened-to-those-ethanol-companies?source=feed#comment-776376 776376

On Nov 24 11:16 PM Trader Jim wrote:

> Dean... I wasn't the one attacking my posts in response to why not
> only ethanol, but electric vehicles (brought up by someone else,
> not me) aren't the answer to the issue at hand, you were. I understood
> the context of what was being debated, you didn't. Of course you're
> also too proud to admit that YOU weren't the one listening... or
> did you forget posting this:
>
> I would think a charging station would be a hell of alot cheaper]]>
Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:21:27 -0500

On Nov 24 11:16 PM Trader Jim wrote:

> Dean... I wasn't the one attacking my posts in response to why not
> only ethanol, but electric vehicles (brought up by someone else,
> not me) aren't the answer to the issue at hand, you were. I understood
> the context of what was being debated, you didn't. Of course you're
> also too proud to admit that YOU weren't the one listening... or
> did you forget posting this:
>
> I would think a charging station would be a hell of alot cheaper]]>
Whatever Happened to Those Ethanol Companies? http://seekingalpha.com/article/174898-whatever-happened-to-those-ethanol-companies?source=feed#comment-776363 776363

On Nov 24 10:30 PM Trader Jim wrote:

> First of all, the comments about wind and solar powered vehicles
> were sarcasm. If you're unfamiliar with the concept look up the
> word in the dictionary (or have someone do it for you). If you really
> think I believe that you should put a windmill on the back of your
> car then you're a bigger moron then your posts show.
>
> Again, this has nothing to do with whether or not we continue to
> use a combustion engine or an electric car... it has to do with fixing
> the primary source of the solution being offered; ELECTRICITY.
>
>
> If you really believe in using coal or natural gas to help generate
> electricity then in theory you should be on my side. You can't save
> oil and gasoline by using electricity until you fix the problem that
> using more electricity uses more oil and gasoline. This isn't a
> hard concept to grasp! To use an old phrase that predates combustion
> engine vehicles, worrying about electric cars before the delivery
> method of electricity is fixed is "putting the cart before the horse".
>
>
> I'll say it again... if you want to argue with me then get off your
> soap box and explain to me how using more oil and gas will save us
> oil and gas. Until you can do this you're just showing your lack
> of understanding of the discussion and your overall ignorance.<br/>]]>
Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:52:11 -0500

On Nov 24 10:30 PM Trader Jim wrote:

> First of all, the comments about wind and solar powered vehicles
> were sarcasm. If you're unfamiliar with the concept look up the
> word in the dictionary (or have someone do it for you). If you really
> think I believe that you should put a windmill on the back of your
> car then you're a bigger moron then your posts show.
>
> Again, this has nothing to do with whether or not we continue to
> use a combustion engine or an electric car... it has to do with fixing
> the primary source of the solution being offered; ELECTRICITY.
>
>
> If you really believe in using coal or natural gas to help generate
> electricity then in theory you should be on my side. You can't save
> oil and gasoline by using electricity until you fix the problem that
> using more electricity uses more oil and gasoline. This isn't a
> hard concept to grasp! To use an old phrase that predates combustion
> engine vehicles, worrying about electric cars before the delivery
> method of electricity is fixed is "putting the cart before the horse".
>
>
> I'll say it again... if you want to argue with me then get off your
> soap box and explain to me how using more oil and gas will save us
> oil and gas. Until you can do this you're just showing your lack
> of understanding of the discussion and your overall ignorance.<br/>]]>
U.S. Economic Recovery and the Housing Sector Mirage http://seekingalpha.com/article/175116-u-s-economic-recovery-and-the-housing-sector-mirage?source=feed#comment-776350 776350

On Nov 24 07:01 PM Jeff Nielson wrote:

> Hi Dean.
>
> To begin with, the reduction in credit for most Americans is not
> VOLUNTARY. You can't claim to have "learned " new behavior if it
> is simply forced on you.
>
> Second, "Cash for Clunkers" proves Americans have learned NOTHING.
> A million Americans bought vehicles they didn't NEED - with the automakers
> clawing-back all their "subsidies" through higher sticker prices
> - so that those car-buyers saved NOTHING! Most of the rest of the
> country cheered-on this idiocy.
>
> Again: not the slightest sign of Americans "learning" anything.<br/>
>
> Third, to believe that the U.S. economy is currently "growing" implies
> believing that an economy which became hopelessly insolvent through
> excessive borrowing-and-spending has been FIXED by even MORE-excessive
> borrowing-and-spending.
>
> Obviously anyone who believes this fantasy has clearly not learned
> the lesson of "buying things they can't pay for".
>
> The fact that Americans are not DEMANDING the resignation of their
> entire government for CREATING a NEW subprime sector (100%-backed
> by taxpayer dollars) - while the U.S. housing sector is STILL plummeting
> downward from the collapse of the original bubble - shows that most
> Americans have learned nothing.]]>
Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:26:06 -0500

On Nov 24 07:01 PM Jeff Nielson wrote:

> Hi Dean.
>
> To begin with, the reduction in credit for most Americans is not
> VOLUNTARY. You can't claim to have "learned " new behavior if it
> is simply forced on you.
>
> Second, "Cash for Clunkers" proves Americans have learned NOTHING.
> A million Americans bought vehicles they didn't NEED - with the automakers
> clawing-back all their "subsidies" through higher sticker prices
> - so that those car-buyers saved NOTHING! Most of the rest of the
> country cheered-on this idiocy.
>
> Again: not the slightest sign of Americans "learning" anything.<br/>
>
> Third, to believe that the U.S. economy is currently "growing" implies
> believing that an economy which became hopelessly insolvent through
> excessive borrowing-and-spending has been FIXED by even MORE-excessive
> borrowing-and-spending.
>
> Obviously anyone who believes this fantasy has clearly not learned
> the lesson of "buying things they can't pay for".
>
> The fact that Americans are not DEMANDING the resignation of their
> entire government for CREATING a NEW subprime sector (100%-backed
> by taxpayer dollars) - while the U.S. housing sector is STILL plummeting
> downward from the collapse of the original bubble - shows that most
> Americans have learned nothing.]]>
Whatever Happened to Those Ethanol Companies? http://seekingalpha.com/article/174898-whatever-happened-to-those-ethanol-companies?source=feed#comment-776333 776333

On Nov 24 09:54 PM Trader Jim wrote:

> Wow, you really miss the point. This isn't in response to the cost
> of anything, but to the best path to becoming energy independent
> of oil. Whether you believe it's because we're running out or don't
> want to support the Middle East really doesn't matter. The issue
> in this article (and the following discussion) is how to accomplish
> this by using alternative fuel sources for vehicles. My point is
> that electricity shouldn't be offered as a solution until the electricity
> can be delivered without consuming even more oil and gasoline then
> the so called "solution" will save us. The issue of price isn't
> a factor here (unless you want to count the increase in the price
> of electricity due to the increased demand).
>
> Either take a reading comprehension course or keep your soap box
> opinions to yourself, they aren't solutions to anything being discussed
> here.]]>
Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:01:15 -0500

On Nov 24 09:54 PM Trader Jim wrote:

> Wow, you really miss the point. This isn't in response to the cost
> of anything, but to the best path to becoming energy independent
> of oil. Whether you believe it's because we're running out or don't
> want to support the Middle East really doesn't matter. The issue
> in this article (and the following discussion) is how to accomplish
> this by using alternative fuel sources for vehicles. My point is
> that electricity shouldn't be offered as a solution until the electricity
> can be delivered without consuming even more oil and gasoline then
> the so called "solution" will save us. The issue of price isn't
> a factor here (unless you want to count the increase in the price
> of electricity due to the increased demand).
>
> Either take a reading comprehension course or keep your soap box
> opinions to yourself, they aren't solutions to anything being discussed
> here.]]>
Whatever Happened to Those Ethanol Companies? http://seekingalpha.com/article/174898-whatever-happened-to-those-ethanol-companies?source=feed#comment-776234 776234

On Nov 24 06:05 PM Trader Jim wrote:

> Thanks for making my point. Cars running on electricity is not going
> to make us energy independent; it's not the answer to our fuel problem.
> For almost 40 years there's been an industry trying to push "alternative"
> fuels on the public, all the while wasting even more energy trying
> to find a method that works. It's not going to happen. Electric
> is a viable option but not until you find a delivery source that
> doesn't use more oil and gas then it saves. Get your head out of
> your @ss... your saviors have had 4 decades to come up with an answer
> and they can't do it. Admit that the perpetual motion machine doesn't
> exist... it runs on oil... and stop wasting even more of what you're
> worried about running out by running in circles.
>
> Whether you like it or not oil is an issue until this is solved,
> and windmills and electric cars are not the answer... they're just
> providing the excuse to "keep things as they are a little while longer
> until we find the answer". Thank your viewpoint for keeping us in
> battles for crude oil.
>
> Unless you're willing to move to nuclear power to deliver your electricity
> then it's all a fool's game, and you and the other fools will keep
> wasting everyone's time, not to mention their energy.
>
> BTW, I live just a few miles from Three Mile Island in Pennsylvania
> and have no issue with nuclear power.
>
> On Nov 24 04:51 PM Dean M wrote:]]>
Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:22:11 -0500

On Nov 24 06:05 PM Trader Jim wrote:

> Thanks for making my point. Cars running on electricity is not going
> to make us energy independent; it's not the answer to our fuel problem.
> For almost 40 years there's been an industry trying to push "alternative"
> fuels on the public, all the while wasting even more energy trying
> to find a method that works. It's not going to happen. Electric
> is a viable option but not until you find a delivery source that
> doesn't use more oil and gas then it saves. Get your head out of
> your @ss... your saviors have had 4 decades to come up with an answer
> and they can't do it. Admit that the perpetual motion machine doesn't
> exist... it runs on oil... and stop wasting even more of what you're
> worried about running out by running in circles.
>
> Whether you like it or not oil is an issue until this is solved,
> and windmills and electric cars are not the answer... they're just
> providing the excuse to "keep things as they are a little while longer
> until we find the answer". Thank your viewpoint for keeping us in
> battles for crude oil.
>
> Unless you're willing to move to nuclear power to deliver your electricity
> then it's all a fool's game, and you and the other fools will keep
> wasting everyone's time, not to mention their energy.
>
> BTW, I live just a few miles from Three Mile Island in Pennsylvania
> and have no issue with nuclear power.
>
> On Nov 24 04:51 PM Dean M wrote:]]>
U.S. Economic Recovery and the Housing Sector Mirage http://seekingalpha.com/article/175116-u-s-economic-recovery-and-the-housing-sector-mirage?source=feed#comment-775859 775859
"Sadly, Americans apparently have still not learned the lesson that buying things, but not paying for them cannot possibly be the basis for a solvent economy, let alone a healthy one. "]]>
Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:49:23 -0500
"Sadly, Americans apparently have still not learned the lesson that buying things, but not paying for them cannot possibly be the basis for a solvent economy, let alone a healthy one. "]]>
GDP Misses by 20% http://seekingalpha.com/article/175083-gdp-misses-by-20?source=feed#comment-775844 775844
THE ECONOMY IS BAD AND THE GOVERNMENT EXAGGERATES ECONOMIC STATISTICS!

That's the kind of insight you can only pick up here on SA.]]>
Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:39:22 -0500
THE ECONOMY IS BAD AND THE GOVERNMENT EXAGGERATES ECONOMIC STATISTICS!

That's the kind of insight you can only pick up here on SA.]]>
Whatever Happened to Those Ethanol Companies? http://seekingalpha.com/article/174898-whatever-happened-to-those-ethanol-companies?source=feed#comment-775777 775777

On Nov 24 04:08 PM Trader Jim wrote:

> Handsel... everything you discussed here requires some type of fossil
> fuel to generate the electricity to supply the power and for the
> manufacturing of the batteries, so far it's been shown that you use
> more energy than you save going down this road. Unfortunately there
> has been an entire industry based upon this flawed theory for decades
> now and there's a sunken cost effect involved... no one is willing
> to let it go and admit it's a waste of time.
>
> Unless you're willing to move toward nuclear power (which would take
> decades even if we started today) or turn your vehicle into a huge
> sailboat with a windmill strapped to the back of it you're not saving
> any energy.]]>
Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:51:46 -0500

On Nov 24 04:08 PM Trader Jim wrote:

> Handsel... everything you discussed here requires some type of fossil
> fuel to generate the electricity to supply the power and for the
> manufacturing of the batteries, so far it's been shown that you use
> more energy than you save going down this road. Unfortunately there
> has been an entire industry based upon this flawed theory for decades
> now and there's a sunken cost effect involved... no one is willing
> to let it go and admit it's a waste of time.
>
> Unless you're willing to move toward nuclear power (which would take
> decades even if we started today) or turn your vehicle into a huge
> sailboat with a windmill strapped to the back of it you're not saving
> any energy.]]>
Whatever Happened to Those Ethanol Companies? http://seekingalpha.com/article/174898-whatever-happened-to-those-ethanol-companies?source=feed#comment-775770 775770

On Nov 24 08:28 AM Decoy wrote:

> Ethanol plus any other energy source that needs special filling facilities
> such as e85 pumps, hydrogen pumps, hydrogen pumps,special electric
> hook ups will have a hard time being accepted. Example,many cars
> on the east and west coast can &amp; would use e85 but there are
> few if any pumps that can deliver it. The same will happen with plug
> in electrics unless someone builds out the charging stations throughout
> the nation.]]>
Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:40:50 -0500

On Nov 24 08:28 AM Decoy wrote:

> Ethanol plus any other energy source that needs special filling facilities
> such as e85 pumps, hydrogen pumps, hydrogen pumps,special electric
> hook ups will have a hard time being accepted. Example,many cars
> on the east and west coast can &amp; would use e85 but there are
> few if any pumps that can deliver it. The same will happen with plug
> in electrics unless someone builds out the charging stations throughout
> the nation.]]>
What the Greatest Investor in the World Is Doing Right Now http://seekingalpha.com/article/174441-what-the-greatest-investor-in-the-world-is-doing-right-now?source=feed#comment-768885 768885 Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:11:26 -0500 The Twenty Year Stock Bubble Is Still Inflated http://seekingalpha.com/article/174492-the-twenty-year-stock-bubble-is-still-inflated?source=feed#comment-768848 768848 Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:59:39 -0500 Are We Exacerbating China's Pollution? http://seekingalpha.com/article/174149-are-we-exacerbating-china-s-pollution?source=feed#comment-768782 768782 Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:37:16 -0500 Are Stocks Making a Major Top? http://seekingalpha.com/article/173161-are-stocks-making-a-major-top?source=feed#comment-760462 760462 Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:38:36 -0500 The Global Oil Scam: 50 Times Bigger than Madoff http://seekingalpha.com/article/172797-the-global-oil-scam-50-times-bigger-than-madoff?source=feed#comment-756444 756444 Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:41:51 -0500 Property Values Set to Fall 43% from Current Depressed Levels http://seekingalpha.com/article/170526-property-values-set-to-fall-43-from-current-depressed-levels?source=feed#comment-745308 745308
On Nov 04 06:05 PM Michael David White wrote:

> I did draw in the trend line based upon the first ten years having
> greater validity than the second ten years. It's interesting that
> you say my hypothesis for values has no value, but you offer nothing
> of value to support your opinion on values. Here's my opinion: Based
> upon price trends in the past three years, in which we have had a
> catastrophic loss in values, the bubble trend is a bubble and the
> non-bubble trend is a non-bubble. I assumed that the long-trend is
> the non-bubble trend. I hope this explanation has been of value to
> you. I am working on a longer-trend graph. Thanks for your note.
> mdw]]>
Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:55:16 -0500
On Nov 04 06:05 PM Michael David White wrote:

> I did draw in the trend line based upon the first ten years having
> greater validity than the second ten years. It's interesting that
> you say my hypothesis for values has no value, but you offer nothing
> of value to support your opinion on values. Here's my opinion: Based
> upon price trends in the past three years, in which we have had a
> catastrophic loss in values, the bubble trend is a bubble and the
> non-bubble trend is a non-bubble. I assumed that the long-trend is
> the non-bubble trend. I hope this explanation has been of value to
> you. I am working on a longer-trend graph. Thanks for your note.
> mdw]]>
Cramer Does It Again with CIT Call http://seekingalpha.com/article/170457-cramer-does-it-again-with-cit-call?source=feed#comment-745032 745032 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:07:24 -0500 Property Values Set to Fall 43% from Current Depressed Levels http://seekingalpha.com/article/170526-property-values-set-to-fall-43-from-current-depressed-levels?source=feed#comment-745015 745015 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:52:55 -0500 On Bubbles and the Market Recovery http://seekingalpha.com/article/169874-on-bubbles-and-the-market-recovery?source=feed#comment-736552 736552 Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:04:21 -0400 Crashachusetts Sept. 2009 Existing Home Sales and Prices: Don't Be Fooled by Headline Numbers http://seekingalpha.com/article/169753-crashachusetts-sept-2009-existing-home-sales-and-prices-don-t-be-fooled-by-headline-numbers?source=feed#comment-736538 736538 Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:46:25 -0400 Bill Gross: Six Month Rally Is 'At Its Pinnacle' http://seekingalpha.com/article/169404-bill-gross-six-month-rally-is-at-its-pinnacle?source=feed#comment-734857 734857 Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:15:27 -0400 Fantasy Housing Numbers a Prelude to the Next U.S. Crash http://seekingalpha.com/article/168713-fantasy-housing-numbers-a-prelude-to-the-next-u-s-crash?source=feed#comment-734765 734765

On Oct 28 05:43 PM Jeff Nielson wrote:

> Let me get this straight, Dean.
>
> I look "ridiculous" when I cite an anecdote from my own, personal
> experience. However, it's NOT "ridiculous" when major news organizations
> report that heresay that ANONYMOUS "buyers" are (supposedly) having
> difficulty "finding" and distressed properties to purchase.
>
> It's a good thing that YOU have have no biases, Dean.]]>
Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:49:09 -0400

On Oct 28 05:43 PM Jeff Nielson wrote:

> Let me get this straight, Dean.
>
> I look "ridiculous" when I cite an anecdote from my own, personal
> experience. However, it's NOT "ridiculous" when major news organizations
> report that heresay that ANONYMOUS "buyers" are (supposedly) having
> difficulty "finding" and distressed properties to purchase.
>
> It's a good thing that YOU have have no biases, Dean.]]>
Fantasy Housing Numbers a Prelude to the Next U.S. Crash http://seekingalpha.com/article/168713-fantasy-housing-numbers-a-prelude-to-the-next-u-s-crash?source=feed#comment-734218 734218

On Oct 28 11:53 AM Living4Dividends wrote:

> Caveat:
> The only thing they have done for homeowners is a $8000 credit. It
> is very restrictive. You only get it if you are a new homeowner,
> etc, etc. It does not help existing homeowners (unless they sell).
>
>
> $8000 for a $160,000 house is 5% of the purchase price
> $4500 for a $18,000 car is 25% of the purchase price.
>
> According to the government, cars are more important than houses.
>
>
> When the banks foreclose on the houses, the people can sleep in their
> shiny brand new cars.]]>
Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:28:07 -0400

On Oct 28 11:53 AM Living4Dividends wrote:

> Caveat:
> The only thing they have done for homeowners is a $8000 credit. It
> is very restrictive. You only get it if you are a new homeowner,
> etc, etc. It does not help existing homeowners (unless they sell).
>
>
> $8000 for a $160,000 house is 5% of the purchase price
> $4500 for a $18,000 car is 25% of the purchase price.
>
> According to the government, cars are more important than houses.
>
>
> When the banks foreclose on the houses, the people can sleep in their
> shiny brand new cars.]]>
Fantasy Housing Numbers a Prelude to the Next U.S. Crash http://seekingalpha.com/article/168713-fantasy-housing-numbers-a-prelude-to-the-next-u-s-crash?source=feed#comment-734214 734214 Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:25:07 -0400 iShares Files for New Type of Muni Bond ETF http://seekingalpha.com/article/168834-ishares-files-for-new-type-of-muni-bond-etf?source=feed#comment-730621 730621 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:41:58 -0400 The Greatest Depression Is Coming http://seekingalpha.com/article/167060-the-greatest-depression-is-coming?source=feed#comment-730335 730335

On Oct 19 10:13 AM diogeron wrote:

> Take this anti-"socialist" pledge....
>
> Date:_________________...
>
> I, ________________________, do solemnly swear to uphold the principles
> of a socialism-free society and heretofore pledge my word that I
> shall strictly adhere to the following:
>
> I pledge to eliminate all government intervention in my life. I
> will abstain from the use of and participation in any socialist goods
> and services including but not limited to the following:
>
> * Social Security
> * Medicare/Medicaid
> * State Children’s Health Insurance Programs (seekingalpha.com/symbo...)
>
> * Police, Fire, and Emergency Services
> * US Postal Service
> * Roads and Highways
> * Air Travel (regulated by the FAA)
> * The US Railway System
> * Public Subways and Metro Systems
> * Public Bus and Light Rail Systems
> * Rest Areas on Highways &amp; Sidewalks
> * All Government-Funded Local/State Projects (e.g., see Senator Grassley's
> Iowa 2009 -- grassley.senate.gov/is...
> federal appropriations of taxpayer money)
> * Public Water and Sewer Services (including but not limited to public
> toilets, showers, dishwashers, kitchen sinks, and outdoor hoses)
>
> * Public and State Universities and Colleges
> * Public Primary and Secondary Schools &amp; Sesame Street
> * Publicly Funded Anti-Drug Use Education for Children
> * Public Libraries &amp; Museums
> * Public Parks and Beaches
> * State and National Parks
> * Public Zoos
> * Unemployment Insurance
> * Municipal Garbage and Recycling Services
> * Treatment at Any Hospital or Clinic Has Received Funding from Local,
> State or Federal Government
> * Medical Services and Medications That Were Created or Derived from
> Any Government Grant or Research Funding
> * Byproducts of Government Investment Such as Velcro (seekingalpha.com/symbo...)
>
> * Use of the Internet, email, and networked computers, as the DOD's
> ARPANET was the basis for computer networking
> * Foodstuffs, Meats, Produce and Crops That Were Grown with, Fed
> with, Raised with or Contain Crops Grown with Government Farm Subsidies
>
> * Clothing Made from Crops (e.g. cotton) That Were Grown with or
> Contain Inputs from Government Subsidies
> If a veteran of the government-run US military, I will forego my
> VA benefits and insist on paying for my own medical care.
>
> I will not tour socialist government buildings like the Capitol in
> Washington, D.C.
>
> I pledge never to take myself, my family, or my children on a tour
> of the following types of socialist locations, including but not
> limited to:
>
> * Smithsonian Museums such as the Air and Space Museum or Museum
> of American History
> * The Washington, Lincoln, and Jefferson Monuments
> * The government-operated Statue of Liberty
> * The Grand Canyon
> * The World War II and Vietnam Veterans Memorials
> * The government-run Arlington National Cemetery
> * All other public-funded socialist sites, whether it be in my state
> or in Washington, DC
>
> I will urge my Member of Congress and Senators to forego their government
> salary and government-provided healthcare.
>
> I will oppose and condemn the government-funded military of the United
> States of America.
>
> I will boycott the products of socialist defense contractors such
> as GE, Lockheed-Martin, Boeing, Northrop Grumman, General Dynamics,
> Raytheon, Humana, FedEx, General Motors, Honeywell, and hundreds
> of others that are paid by our socialist government to produce goods
> for our socialist army.
>
> I will protest socialist national security departments such as the
> Pentagon, FBI, CIA, Department of Homeland Security, TSA, Department
> of Justice and their socialist employees.
>
> Upon reaching eligible retirement age, I will tear up my socialist
> Social Security checks.
>
> Upon reaching age 65, I will forego Medicare and pay for my own private
> health insurance until I die.
>
> SWORN AND SIGNED THIS DAY OF ________ IN THE YEAR _____.
>
> _______________________ _______________________ _____________________
>
>
> Signed Printed Name Town and State
> ]]>
Mon, 26 Oct 2009 06:55:52 -0400

On Oct 19 10:13 AM diogeron wrote:

> Take this anti-"socialist" pledge....
>
> Date:_________________...
>
> I, ________________________, do solemnly swear to uphold the principles
> of a socialism-free society and heretofore pledge my word that I
> shall strictly adhere to the following:
>
> I pledge to eliminate all government intervention in my life. I
> will abstain from the use of and participation in any socialist goods
> and services including but not limited to the following:
>
> * Social Security
> * Medicare/Medicaid
> * State Children’s Health Insurance Programs (seekingalpha.com/symbo...)
>
> * Police, Fire, and Emergency Services
> * US Postal Service
> * Roads and Highways
> * Air Travel (regulated by the FAA)
> * The US Railway System
> * Public Subways and Metro Systems
> * Public Bus and Light Rail Systems
> * Rest Areas on Highways &amp; Sidewalks
> * All Government-Funded Local/State Projects (e.g., see Senator Grassley's
> Iowa 2009 -- grassley.senate.gov/is...
> federal appropriations of taxpayer money)
> * Public Water and Sewer Services (including but not limited to public
> toilets, showers, dishwashers, kitchen sinks, and outdoor hoses)
>
> * Public and State Universities and Colleges
> * Public Primary and Secondary Schools &amp; Sesame Street
> * Publicly Funded Anti-Drug Use Education for Children
> * Public Libraries &amp; Museums
> * Public Parks and Beaches
> * State and National Parks
> * Public Zoos
> * Unemployment Insurance
> * Municipal Garbage and Recycling Services
> * Treatment at Any Hospital or Clinic Has Received Funding from Local,
> State or Federal Government
> * Medical Services and Medications That Were Created or Derived from
> Any Government Grant or Research Funding
> * Byproducts of Government Investment Such as Velcro (seekingalpha.com/symbo...)
>
> * Use of the Internet, email, and networked computers, as the DOD's
> ARPANET was the basis for computer networking
> * Foodstuffs, Meats, Produce and Crops That Were Grown with, Fed
> with, Raised with or Contain Crops Grown with Government Farm Subsidies
>
> * Clothing Made from Crops (e.g. cotton) That Were Grown with or
> Contain Inputs from Government Subsidies
> If a veteran of the government-run US military, I will forego my
> VA benefits and insist on paying for my own medical care.
>
> I will not tour socialist government buildings like the Capitol in
> Washington, D.C.
>
> I pledge never to take myself, my family, or my children on a tour
> of the following types of socialist locations, including but not
> limited to:
>
> * Smithsonian Museums such as the Air and Space Museum or Museum
> of American History
> * The Washington, Lincoln, and Jefferson Monuments
> * The government-operated Statue of Liberty
> * The Grand Canyon
> * The World War II and Vietnam Veterans Memorials
> * The government-run Arlington National Cemetery
> * All other public-funded socialist sites, whether it be in my state
> or in Washington, DC
>
> I will urge my Member of Congress and Senators to forego their government
> salary and government-provided healthcare.
>
> I will oppose and condemn the government-funded military of the United
> States of America.
>
> I will boycott the products of socialist defense contractors such
> as GE, Lockheed-Martin, Boeing, Northrop Grumman, General Dynamics,
> Raytheon, Humana, FedEx, General Motors, Honeywell, and hundreds
> of others that are paid by our socialist government to produce goods
> for our socialist army.
>
> I will protest socialist national security departments such as the
> Pentagon, FBI, CIA, Department of Homeland Security, TSA, Department
> of Justice and their socialist employees.
>
> Upon reaching eligible retirement age, I will tear up my socialist
> Social Security checks.
>
> Upon reaching age 65, I will forego Medicare and pay for my own private
> health insurance until I die.
>
> SWORN AND SIGNED THIS DAY OF ________ IN THE YEAR _____.
>
> _______________________ _______________________ _____________________
>
>
> Signed Printed Name Town and State
> ]]>
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