nakedjaybird

Barron's Banks on $100 Oil

nakedjaybirdJun 23 02:07 PMWhere have some of you folks been? In "school" maybe???

In the early 1970's we concluded it was going to take hybrid electric vehicles for anything beyond the basic 40-50 mile daily commuter using fully electric cars, when and if he was ready to switch from huge gas guzzlers (we knew this because we built and tested electric vehicles! And, there is a market for both types of vehicles). The shackles have been off for the private sector for 40 years.

We were also growing silicon ribbon and producing solar volataic panels in the 70's. The shackles have been off for the private sector for 40 years.

We have used windmills for long before many of you folks existed. Seems like we know how to make and use all of the components. The shackles have been off the private sector for a long time.

One of the major problems is the selfish consumer. His shackles have been off - he's had some free choices.

Another major problems is we have permitted our Government give our tax dollars to big oil thru tax breaks (research, investestment credits, depleption allowances, and on and on).

WE HAVE NOT DONE THE RIGHT THINGS;

NOT EVEN THE THINGS WE WERE/ARE CAPABLE OF DOING. BUT........... THAT ..........

Didn't stop France from going 80% nuclear.

Didn't stop Germany from going 40% solar.

Didn't stop Brazil from going 60% biofuel.

Didn't stop Switzerland (and many other European countries) from going electrified rails for people and goods, and even electric ferries (they put rubber tired hiway diesel busses on electrified rail cars for certain legs of their journeys).

Didn't stop Europe from building and using small economical cars, nor electric delivery vehicles, etc.

So where has the US been??

I guarantee you, without LEADERSHIP, we will not get there....................

We have had the techonologies; we've had the money; we've had the resoures; we've had our heads somewhere, like where the sun doesn't shine.

AND FOR THAT, THERE IS JUST TOO MUCH EVIDENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...

The Crude Geopolitics of Oil

nakedjaybirdJun 23 02:07 PMWhere have some of you folks been? In "school" maybe???

In the early 1970's we concluded it was going to take hybrid electric vehicles for anything beyond the basic 40-50 mile daily commuter using fully electric cars, when and if he was ready to switch from huge gas guzzlers (we knew this because we built and tested electric vehicles! And, there is a market for both types of vehicles). The shackles have been off for the private sector for 40 years.

We were also growing silicon ribbon and producing solar volataic panels in the 70's. The shackles have been off for the private sector for 40 years.

We have used windmills for long before many of you folks existed. Seems like we know how to make and use all of the components. The shackles have been off the private sector for a long time.

One of the major problems is the selfish consumer. His shackles have been off - he's had some free choices.

Another major problems is we have permitted our Government give our tax dollars to big oil thru tax breaks (research, investestment credits, depleption allowances, and on and on).

WE HAVE NOT DONE THE RIGHT THINGS;

NOT EVEN THE THINGS WE WERE/ARE CAPABLE OF DOING. BUT........... THAT ..........

Didn't stop France from going 80% nuclear.

Didn't stop Germany from going 40% solar.

Didn't stop Brazil from going 60% biofuel.

Didn't stop Switzerland (and many other European countries) from going electrified rails for people and goods, and even electric ferries (they put rubber tired hiway diesel busses on electrified rail cars for certain legs of their journeys).

Didn't stop Europe from building and using small economical cars, nor electric delivery vehicles, etc.

So where has the US been??

I guarantee you, without LEADERSHIP, we will not get there....................

We have had the techonologies; we've had the money; we've had the resoures; we've had our heads somewhere, like where the sun doesn't shine.

AND FOR THAT, THERE IS JUST TOO MUCH EVIDENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...

An Alternative to America’s Gasoline Crisis

Where have some of you folks been? In "school" maybe???

In the early 1970's we concluded it was going to take hybrid electric vehicles for anything beyond the basic 40-50 mile daily commuter using fully electric cars, when and if he was ready to switch from huge gas guzzlers (we knew this because we built and tested electric vehicles! And, there is a market for both types of vehicles). The shackles have been off for the private sector for 40 years.

We were also growing silicon ribbon and producing solar volataic panels in the 70's. The shackles have been off for the private sector for 40 years.

We have used windmills for long before many of you folks existed. Seems like we know how to make and use all of the components. The shackles have been off the private sector for a long time.

One of the major problems is the selfish consumer. His shackles have been off - he's had some free choices.

Another major problems is we have permitted our Government give our tax dollars to big oil thru tax breaks (research, investestment credits, depleption allowances, and on and on).

WE HAVE NOT DONE THE RIGHT THINGS;

NOT EVEN THE THINGS WE WERE/ARE CAPABLE OF DOING. BUT........... THAT ..........

Didn't stop France from going 80% nuclear.

Didn't stop Germany from going 40% solar.

Didn't stop Brazil from going 60% biofuel.

Didn't stop Switzerland (and many other European countries) from going electrified rails for people and goods, and even electric ferries (they put rubber tired hiway diesel busses on electrified rail cars for certain legs of their journeys).

Didn't stop Europe from building and using small economical cars, nor electric delivery vehicles, etc.

So where has the US been??

I guarantee you, without LEADERSHIP, we will not get there....................

We have had the techonologies; we've had the money; we've had the resoures; we've had our heads somewhere, like where the sun doesn't shine.

AND FOR THAT, THERE IS JUST TOO MUCH EVIDENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...

An Alternative to America’s Gasoline Crisis

American citizens have several choices to make: pay for a solution to "eliminate" the use of oil, gas and coal, NOW, or pay our national debt with their future generations livelihood (yup, to pay the national debt [including the "unfixed" peoples healthcare and pension liabilities with fewer working folks since we killed off nearly 50 million unborn potential workers in the US over the same time period we were not really fixing what the '73 oil embargo and '79 natural gas "shortage" DIDN'T teach us]).

The second choice is to put the leadership in place in our local, state and federal governments to make that happen, OR NOT.

So, change transportation habits/means and LEADERSHIP, or not......

I'm a conservative and basically Republican (smaller government, fewer taxes, less welfare/more work, power/choice to the people in education/guns/spendin... our own money instead of the government [except where it takes the necessity of a real government role, and they are way over-funded to do that already],etc.,, AND I VOTE, ........... but I have to tell you that I'm about to vote to make things worse since voting to make things better has not worked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!... That way, maybe we can hasten our trip to learn our hard lessons and correct them before even that is absolutely impossible.

It's obvious that a lot has not worked for four (4) decades by our leadership which has certainly been funded and directed by the wishes of the people to do differently.............. yes, I know, we DID listen to some of the people......... YUP! AND, IF WE LISTENED TO MOST CHILDREN AND DID WHAT THEY WANTED, WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANY KIDS IN SCHOOL.

An Alternative to America’s Gasoline Crisis

PS - yes, and leave the natural gas in the ground, also.

An Alternative to America’s Gasoline Crisis

One correction: BB/D should be MB/D (million, not billion barrels of crude per day demand by the US).

An Alternative to America’s Gasoline Crisis

First - most railways in the US use diesel-electric powered engines: yes, diesel-electric. so, eliminate the diesel and you have remaining "electric". So, electrify the rails and not use the diesel to transport goods and a few people. Go figure how much hydrocarbon demand that eliminates.

Where do we get the electric? Continue expanding nuclear. Have a Manhattan Project or Moon Shot Program emphasis on solar and wind primarily, and other renewables.

Second, as for the diesel trucks on all the interstates, turn them into biodiesel, while and until we electrify the interstate hiways/biways/beltways with new electrical infrastruture supplied by the solar and wind and nuclear generated electricy. Then use the biodiesel for the tugs and barges and ships. We don't need to use our coal for electricy either as we replace them with more efficienct and free solar. We are really stupid. Maybe we can develop and new Government Program to develop prospectors to discover the source of solar. I suggest a sun shot program and put all the lousy politicians, Houston oil and Detroit auto execs in the sun lander capsule.


Third, push hybrids and electrics, etc.

Fourth, push electrified ferries along the interstates for both goods and people.

Seventy percent of our crude demand is for shipping goods and people around the country. Stop doing it that way. Use electricity, free from solar and wind, clean, no cleanup, basically no drilling and processing (must get the silicon and glass: both from sand...... duh!!!). Like Europe? This is not a new thought folks.

And in 30 years, we'll need less than 5 BBL/D crude, period.

Do the above as if we reallly meant it, like building an operating nuclear reactor in the Hanford desert from scratch within 18 months using 1940's technology and methods, or going to the moon, and be at 5 BBl/D in 10 years, or so.

Yup, get that determined with good leadership and we'll be at 5 BB/D in 10 years.


LEADERSHIP is the key.

The Great Oil Deception: Part Two

And the other best example available as to why we are unable to simply harness solar or do away with wasting hydrocarbons because of POOR LEADERSHIP and SELFISHNESS OF THE PEOPLE is:

WE CAN'T EVEN BUILD A FREAKIN' FENCE AT THE BORDER. That's us. That's our ilk. Sad. Real sad. And you guys want to keep arguing numbers and complicated concepts. Do something real, instead of writing about it (I have - well, and maybe some of you have also. Thanks, where deserving).

The Great Oil Deception: Part Two

Wisdom dictates oil, gas and coal should be left in the ground. It will run out. Solar, wind and the like will not: guaranteed!! And they're easy to find and cheap to harness.

During the past 30 years we could have done what we will have to and must do during this next 30 (or hopefully less). The past actions of poor LEADERSHIP from DC and Houston to Detroit plus the selfish desires in most homes and businesses must change.

We have certainly reduced exploration/production in the US (wisely) and have not built any more refineries (wisely)......now we need to stop unwisely using 70% of the oil, gas and coal we consume.

Electrifying rails and hiways for movement of goods and people will pretty much do that. Seems simple and straigtforward. And, it's been proven elsewhere.
So, get with it.

And by then, we'll have new ways to eliminate most of the remainder of the 30% of OUR hydrocarbon use.

The Great Oil Deception: Part Two

waterpolo66 - nuclear will remain a player, and should. The pushing and resistance began in the 70's, if not from the beginning; I am familiar with the complete fuel cycle, the maintenace, the regs, etc., and reiterate, nuclear will remain a player.

However, today, we should push solar as if it were a new Manhattan Project, for all the reasons you listed as negative for nuclear which do not exist for solar, lest the interferer's interfer.

The Great Oil Deception: Part Two

And finally soylent and the rest of you hydrocarbon guys:

My oh my oh my, Jack......even you???

Nuclear will be a remaining player. The waste from reprocessed "spent" fuel can and will be handled. As for all the "spent" fuel in storage, it is not "spent"; it's like easy-to-get-to fresh uranium when reprocessed - a real resource.

Hydro is not cheap to construct. And if you take into account all the industries supporting drilling, mining, processing, transporting, converting, etc., oil, gas and coal they are no way simple and cheap - in total, just as complex if not more so than nuclear. So they are all players. And, wind and solar should and will be much simpler players. Their fuel is free. Just convert it to electricity. As for fusion, let it continue on the Sun, far away, and just convert it's output here on earth (around the clock 24/7 somewhere) for free as solar power of one sort or another; free and forever; at whatever effeciency. And let some sun thru to grow biofuels or some sort.

So, emphasize the wind and solar to eliminate the coal and gas for production of electricity AND also to produce much, much more electric so we can electrify existing plus addditional railroads, new electrified transit systems in/around/between major cities and along the US seaboards, and install electrified rail ferries amongst the existing interstate hiway right-of-ways; push hybrids; move fuel oil to solar or electric in all homes: DO ALL THIS TO REDUCE THE GASOLINE AND DIESEL WHICH IS 70% OF CRUDE OIL DEPENDENCY. Sorry big oil. But either become part of the solution or a buggy whip.

The Great Oil Deception: Part Two

nakedjaybirdJun 15 01:34 AM

Well rw mac, I'm not sure you're deserving of a response, but let me give you a small spoonful.

Some of us were trying to get more nuclear plants put in place since the 70's, but greenies et.al who wouldn't ever get the message until they threw the lightswithch on some night and found there was no power, got in the way.

Even more selfish ilk for big cars and lots of horsepower and lot's of freedom would not ever swing for the small car, much less the new batteries and electric vehicles with hockey-puck power semi-conductors as advanced controllers went at the time during the 60's and early 70's. Of course, we concluded at the time that commuters were not going to swing with a power limited, range limited fully electric vehicle. It was going to take a hybrid. Which 40 years later we now have. We can blame Detroit and Houston for big gas hogs - they deserve some of it, as do their lobbiests, and most of all the poor leadership that bought into the con and power grab, of many sorts. We forget of course, that Europe went for steel rails and small cars and electric cars. Smart.

However, folks here at home wouldn't give up their freedom for steel-wheeled rail transit again, or now, even rubber-wheeled electrified trolleys within the major congested cities. They couldn't, wouldn't, go for the proof of the like of Toronto's transit system which went nowhere at the time, but soon showed that if you build it, they will come. Many transit systmems proved this. We were, are, a selfish folk; not unlike dumb sheep. And hopeless without good LEADERSHIP.

We could have gone for amohphous metal transformers eliminating the losses of those on the poles, but replacement would be a program much beyond the changing out of the mercury-vapor whites, to the yellow sodium vapor, to the low pressure yellow you now which you probably don't recognize. You have no clue how many advancements could have been implemented. The ones we get at the consumer level are efficient lighting provided by utilities because of subsidies, energy efficient refrigerators for the poor, etc., by utility subsidized programs, not to mention the latest screw-in fluroencent bulbs. You ain's seen nothing yet baby, if you'd just get out of the way.

We were growing silicon ribbon in the 70's and making PV cells - a little behind where we are today. So, I suggest again, that we make all we can of the solar today and move on, aggressively. Overriding whatever resistance confronted. Just like the Manhattan Project or the Moon Program. It takes Leadership and ignoring folks like you.

The Great Oil Deception: Part Two

Hey soylent: for the sake of my time i'll copy for ease of your education; there may be a nugget or two here relevant to your push to use our hydrocarbons, which I'd just as soon leave in the ground. That's my basis for most energy arguments, since we do have alternatives.

nakedjaybirdJun 14 02:05 PM

You're right Dickus, but we should not let that stop us from fully developing wind as an alternative energy to oil, gas and coal.

First, it's free energy.

Second, we need to use every technically and economically feasible (standalone, or even if using redirected oil, gas, coal, etc., subsidies and tax breaks) free-energy source (tidal, geothermal and maybe even biofuel, etc.). Especially, the friendly and simplistic ones like solar has and is becoming (what I mean by simplistic regards damage control, spiderweb complexities w.r.t. associated requirements [regulation], demands [multiple industry involvement], resources, etc.

For instance, solar requires sun and sand (simplisticly speaking). Silicon and glass (maybe: or equivalents) processing are the significant complexities.

I'd really like to see some solar sites producing solar energy to make or process the silicon (talk about reproduction: nearest thing to perpetual motion: well,........).

The Dutch and the early farmers in the US were not wrong in putting up windmills; and water-wheels came very early to human existence as well. As long as they are free and near simplistic, use them.

Oil, gas, coal and wood were fine to use (as was animal fat, bees wax, etc.) when they were on the surface; free-for-the-taking, more or less. But those energy sources have become far from free at the surface, not to mention or discuss their replenishment, and more so their complexities. Proof of that is all the media discussion and industry failure fear.

And as for any basis for qualification to state an opinion on energy, try this the next copy!

The Great Oil Deception: Part Two

Guess what. I have an energy source that will reduce your exploration costs to zero. Will put all the geologists out of work; even the drillers, and all you guys will have to find something else to do cause you won't be able to right about dinasours any longer: IT'S CALLED SOLAR.

Every one of you use it daily but are not aware of it because of where your heads are.

Global Regulation Trend Favors PowerShares Global Clean Energy

Well rw mac, I'm not sure you're deserving of a response, but let me give you a small spoonful.

Some of us were trying to get more nuclear plants put in place since the 70's, but greenies et.al who wouldn't ever get the message until they threw the lightswithch on some night and found there was no power, got in the way.

Even more selfish ilk for big cars and lots of horsepower and lot's of freedom would not ever swing for the small car, much less the new batteries and electric vehicles with hockey-puck power semi-conductors as advanced controllers went at the time during the 60's and early 70's. Of course, we concluded at the time that commuters were not going to swing with a power limited, range limited fully electric vehicle. It was going to take a hybrid. Which 40 years later we now have. We can blame Detroit and Houston for big gas hogs - they deserve some of it, as do their lobbiests, and most of all the poor leadership that bought into the con and power grab, of many sorts. We forget of course, that Europe went for steel rails and small cars and electric cars. Smart.

However, folks here at home wouldn't give up their freedom for steel-wheeled rail transit again, or now, even rubber-wheeled electrified trolleys within the major congested cities. They couldn't, wouldn't, go for the proof of the like of Toronto's transit system which went nowhere at the time, but soon showed that if you build it, they will come. Many transit systmems proved this. We were, are, a selfish folk; not unlike dumb sheep. And hopeless without good LEADERSHIP.

We could have gone for amohphous metal transformers eliminating the losses of those on the poles, but replacement would be a program much beyond the changing out of the mercury-vapor whites, to the yellow sodium vapor, to the low pressure yellow you now which you probably don't recognize. You have no clue how many advancements could have been implemented. The ones we get at the consumer level are efficient lighting provided by utilities because of subsidies, energy efficient refrigerators for the poor, etc., by utility subsidized programs, not to mention the latest screw-in fluroencent bulbs. You ain's seen nothing yet baby, if you'd just get out of the way.

We were growing silicon ribbon in the 70's and making PV cells - a little behind where we are today. So, I suggest again, that we make all we can of the solar today and move on, aggressively. Overriding whatever resistance confronted. Just like the Manhattan Project or the Moon Program. It takes Leadership and ignoring folks like you.