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Pennsylvania: At the Forefront of Domestic Energy E&P

SOONER; WOO-HOO, WOO-HOO!!

Pennsylvania: At the Forefront of Domestic Energy E&P

AND ALL US U.S. CAPITALISTS WILL BE RICHER; WOO-HOO!!!!

Pennsylvania: At the Forefront of Domestic Energy E&P

And with the someone else's help, DEPLETION COMES SOONER.

Pennsylvania: At the Forefront of Domestic Energy E&P

Being the capitalist I am and many of you are, if Russia buying a portion of our 300 year coal supply for export to their steel industry doesn't get your attention and of all the other concerned US resource folks including those that have in-the-ground assets (oil, NG, coal) which sooner or later will become assets for-sale (being we're all capitalists), it seems to me we had better start working a LOT HARDER developing and providing many alternatives for our lifestyle; because if we don't deplete our natural assets, someone else will.

An Alternative to America’s Gasoline Crisis

If oil was puddling into overflowing pools (ie., flooding) at the surface of the earth, natural gas was bubbling thru it, and adjacent rock bluffs were actually high grade coal at the surface and as deep as one wanted to dig an open pit, would we develop methods and products to use all three "free" energies even tho the best useful energy yield would be 33% - while the remaining energy would be lost as waste heat whether we burned the oil and gas in vehicles or, along with coal, used it for generating electricty at 33% conversion efficiencies, to be used for other devices?

The answer is yes.

Yes, even if we had to further process the oil to make useable forms of liquid energy, thereby reducing the actual useful energy percentage even more; same for coal.

And then, as these energy sources required additional searching, digging, processing, transportation, etc., in order to keep on feeding the gorillia, would we do so? Yes, of course.

Even tho it became very expensive and messy and very complex with many new equipment and service industries being required - not to mention many regulations, etc.,......we would continue on. Yes, of course.

So when things got really bad and the price (cost??) for using these energies finally got higher than most people wished in the USA, and we happened to find several new energy sources essentially "bubbling" out of the earth and available (without the current complications of not-so-readily-availab... oil, gas and coal), would we use it?? Maybe, maybe not.

Would we use this new energy if we could convert only 20% into useful work, instead of 33% of the previous sources (I'm ignoring co-generation)? Maybe, maybe not.

What if this new easily convertable energy source did not require unknown technologies, basic discovey, new methods and products nor the numerous, multiple, complex industries required to support it?? Would we use it? Maybe, maybe not.

And if we knew this source of energy was never going to deminish; never?? Maybe, maybe not.

And, if this energy source was never going to become more difficult to find, required essentially no maintenance, leaving no messes to speak of by comparison, would we use it??

And, to implement and in order to fully use this "unlimited", forever, energy source with the means to transport and distribute and use were already known technologies and more or less already in place, short of having to beef them up, would we use it? Maybe, maybe not.

Would a clear thinking, forward looking nation jump at the chance??

Yes, by all means, in every way, and some nations have.

But not in the USA; not if big oil, gas and coal were already committed, led by selfish and greedy LEADERSHIP and also controlled the WEAK LEADERSHIP of the nation.

A leadership that funds searching out Mars having no use for the Moon since walking on it, that can't even build a fence on earth, and that is willing, thank God, to let fusion continue on the sun forever while it ignores all the free energy the sun provides us on earth, forever. Sad.

An Alternative to America’s Gasoline Crisis

Well Scott, we should then embrace $150-200/bbl of crude and $5-10/gal gasoline and stop whining about anything or everything - just like everyone else!

And, continue to be the selfish greedy American's we really are; and, admit it.

An Alternative to America’s Gasoline Crisis

Where have some of you folks been? In "school" maybe???

In the early 1970's we concluded it was going to take hybrid electric vehicles for anything beyond the basic 40-50 mile daily commuter using fully electric cars, when and if he was ready to switch from huge gas guzzlers (we knew this because we built and tested electric vehicles! And, there is a market for both types of vehicles). The shackles have been off for the private sector for 40 years.

We were also growing silicon ribbon and producing solar volataic panels in the 70's. The shackles have been off for the private sector for 40 years.

We have used windmills for long before many of you folks existed. Seems like we know how to make and use all of the components. The shackles have been off the private sector for a long time.

One of the major problems is the selfish consumer. His shackles have been off - he's had some free choices.

Another major problems is we have permitted our Government give our tax dollars to big oil thru tax breaks (research, investestment credits, depleption allowances, and on and on).

WE HAVE NOT DONE THE RIGHT THINGS;

NOT EVEN THE THINGS WE WERE/ARE CAPABLE OF DOING. BUT........... THAT ..........

Didn't stop France from going 80% nuclear.

Didn't stop Germany from going 40% solar.

Didn't stop Brazil from going 60% biofuel.

Didn't stop Switzerland (and many other European countries) from going electrified rails for people and goods, and even electric ferries (they put rubber tired hiway diesel busses on electrified rail cars for certain legs of their journeys).

Didn't stop Europe from building and using small economical cars, nor electric delivery vehicles, etc.

So where has the US been??

I guarantee you, without LEADERSHIP, we will not get there....................

We have had the techonologies; we've had the money; we've had the resoures; we've had our heads somewhere, like where the sun doesn't shine.

AND FOR THAT, THERE IS JUST TOO MUCH EVIDENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...

An Alternative to America’s Gasoline Crisis

American citizens have several choices to make: pay for a solution to "eliminate" the use of oil, gas and coal, NOW, or pay our national debt with their future generations livelihood (yup, to pay the national debt [including the "unfixed" peoples healthcare and pension liabilities with fewer working folks since we killed off nearly 50 million unborn potential workers in the US over the same time period we were not really fixing what the '73 oil embargo and '79 natural gas "shortage" DIDN'T teach us]).

The second choice is to put the leadership in place in our local, state and federal governments to make that happen, OR NOT.

So, change transportation habits/means and LEADERSHIP, or not......

I'm a conservative and basically Republican (smaller government, fewer taxes, less welfare/more work, power/choice to the people in education/guns/spendin... our own money instead of the government [except where it takes the necessity of a real government role, and they are way over-funded to do that already],etc.,, AND I VOTE, ........... but I have to tell you that I'm about to vote to make things worse since voting to make things better has not worked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!... That way, maybe we can hasten our trip to learn our hard lessons and correct them before even that is absolutely impossible.

It's obvious that a lot has not worked for four (4) decades by our leadership which has certainly been funded and directed by the wishes of the people to do differently.............. yes, I know, we DID listen to some of the people......... YUP! AND, IF WE LISTENED TO MOST CHILDREN AND DID WHAT THEY WANTED, WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANY KIDS IN SCHOOL.

An Alternative to America’s Gasoline Crisis

PS - yes, and leave the natural gas in the ground, also.

An Alternative to America’s Gasoline Crisis

One correction: BB/D should be MB/D (million, not billion barrels of crude per day demand by the US).

An Alternative to America’s Gasoline Crisis

First - most railways in the US use diesel-electric powered engines: yes, diesel-electric. so, eliminate the diesel and you have remaining "electric". So, electrify the rails and not use the diesel to transport goods and a few people. Go figure how much hydrocarbon demand that eliminates.

Where do we get the electric? Continue expanding nuclear. Have a Manhattan Project or Moon Shot Program emphasis on solar and wind primarily, and other renewables.

Second, as for the diesel trucks on all the interstates, turn them into biodiesel, while and until we electrify the interstate hiways/biways/beltways with new electrical infrastruture supplied by the solar and wind and nuclear generated electricy. Then use the biodiesel for the tugs and barges and ships. We don't need to use our coal for electricy either as we replace them with more efficienct and free solar. We are really stupid. Maybe we can develop and new Government Program to develop prospectors to discover the source of solar. I suggest a sun shot program and put all the lousy politicians, Houston oil and Detroit auto execs in the sun lander capsule.


Third, push hybrids and electrics, etc.

Fourth, push electrified ferries along the interstates for both goods and people.

Seventy percent of our crude demand is for shipping goods and people around the country. Stop doing it that way. Use electricity, free from solar and wind, clean, no cleanup, basically no drilling and processing (must get the silicon and glass: both from sand...... duh!!!). Like Europe? This is not a new thought folks.

And in 30 years, we'll need less than 5 BBL/D crude, period.

Do the above as if we reallly meant it, like building an operating nuclear reactor in the Hanford desert from scratch within 18 months using 1940's technology and methods, or going to the moon, and be at 5 BBl/D in 10 years, or so.

Yup, get that determined with good leadership and we'll be at 5 BB/D in 10 years.


LEADERSHIP is the key.