nakedjaybird

Natural Gas & Wind Power - The Pickens Plan

Fitzman - Boones Poliicy may be all that's necessary - simple, clean, effective and not encubered with all the garbage DC puts on their action plans to tickle everyones ear.

Wind's Our Future, but Natural Gas Is Now

And DougM, if you're satisfied with solar/NG, you ought to really be satisfied with solar/biofuel AND BE ALL HOMEGROWN, AND of course, leave the hydrocarbons stored in the ground (all the hydrocarbons: coal, ng, oil, tar sands, oil shale - who, in their right mind would want to dig any of these AND FURTHER PROCESS THEM, to JUST BURN THEM??? DUH!!

Wind's Our Future, but Natural Gas Is Now

DougM - come on, Fusion exists right now. Look at the sun. We can use as much of it right now with every solar PV unit we install. And it doesn't pollute our air, nor use our hydrocarbons. And it's free. Not always available, but we can work on that. Oh, yes it might cool the earth a little.

Wind's Our Future, but Natural Gas Is Now

marc - why would you want to burn NG and throw away 70% of it's energy vis-a-vis generate and use as much free and available wind and solar energy and throw nothing away??? PURE GAIN!

And why wouldn't you want to employ this logic ASAP/AMAP/IEWP???

Boone's got it half right: replace NG power generation with wind (and solar).

What's wrong is then burning NG in vehicles and throwing away 70% of that energy as waste heat. Now if he could recover that waste heat and make it useful electricy for a hybrid, great.

At that point I'd suggest burning biofuels and still leave all the NG in the ground - as stored-already.

So it goes.........

Barron's Banks on $100 Oil

nakedjaybirdJun 23 02:07 PMWhere have some of you folks been? In "school" maybe???

In the early 1970's we concluded it was going to take hybrid electric vehicles for anything beyond the basic 40-50 mile daily commuter using fully electric cars, when and if he was ready to switch from huge gas guzzlers (we knew this because we built and tested electric vehicles! And, there is a market for both types of vehicles). The shackles have been off for the private sector for 40 years.

We were also growing silicon ribbon and producing solar volataic panels in the 70's. The shackles have been off for the private sector for 40 years.

We have used windmills for long before many of you folks existed. Seems like we know how to make and use all of the components. The shackles have been off the private sector for a long time.

One of the major problems is the selfish consumer. His shackles have been off - he's had some free choices.

Another major problems is we have permitted our Government give our tax dollars to big oil thru tax breaks (research, investestment credits, depleption allowances, and on and on).

WE HAVE NOT DONE THE RIGHT THINGS;

NOT EVEN THE THINGS WE WERE/ARE CAPABLE OF DOING. BUT........... THAT ..........

Didn't stop France from going 80% nuclear.

Didn't stop Germany from going 40% solar.

Didn't stop Brazil from going 60% biofuel.

Didn't stop Switzerland (and many other European countries) from going electrified rails for people and goods, and even electric ferries (they put rubber tired hiway diesel busses on electrified rail cars for certain legs of their journeys).

Didn't stop Europe from building and using small economical cars, nor electric delivery vehicles, etc.

So where has the US been??

I guarantee you, without LEADERSHIP, we will not get there....................

We have had the techonologies; we've had the money; we've had the resoures; we've had our heads somewhere, like where the sun doesn't shine.

AND FOR THAT, THERE IS JUST TOO MUCH EVIDENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...