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E*Trade Financial: Laying the Foundation for Success
If you are a moron for cost averaging through a downturn, well, I guess I am one too, and there are plenty more where I came from. I know a lot of people right now who wish they had more money to put into the market, a lot more money.
That'll be $500. Oooops, I forgot to tell you that I have a one hour minimum. One hundred shares of ETFC will do.
Ooops, got off track there. USER162264. Just checking to see if you might be around somewhere. I would really like to hear more from you on the topic of speculation vs. fact. Can anyone else enlighten this pumper elf?
E*Trade Financial: Laying the Foundation for Success
I really don't think that they will be writing down a full BLN this year. I really don't. I see their portfolio as stronger than the average joes, and much stronger than CFC. I didn't work for ETFC, so I do not know what their porfolio actually looks like, but everything I read, and everything that comes out tells me that their loan losses will be much less than their predictions.
The thing that gets me is this. Have you seen public announcement of CFC predicting their loan losses, allowances and writedowns for the next year? Why is it that Etrade is at the forefront of all of this? Why are they the ones getting butchered? Shouldn't it be CFC that is getting butchered? Oh wait, they are. I am beginning to think that the reason ETFC is getting all this bad press is because of these other VERY large lenders are setting up a smoke screen. Now the smoke is clearing, and not that Etrade is shining, but I do think it is going to lokbetter than all of the others. Seriously, if ETFC is going to go under, I can only assume (and quite favorably), that every single large lender will fold and no one will bailout anyone, definitely leaving the entire world in a prolonged depression.
I do hear what you are saying, but I want to see proof that their current allowances are eaten up by charge-offs? Where are you getting this information? Please forward a link so I can see it. That is a pretty serious accusation, and could have enormous investor relation issues. Are you speculating, or actually speaking fact? If fact, I would really like to see it, especially when I just tripled my position at $3.65. If you are speculating, then you should say so. Speculation is very important as well, but there is a difference between speculation and fact.
OK, I have to get back to work.
User, please inform.
Thank you.
Seller, bullish on Etrade is not a bad thing. It seems like there are two distinct sides to the fence for this issue. It will be an interesting play. Will it be a tragedy? Or will it be Glory of God resurrection? Probably somewhere in between.
E*Trade Financial: Laying the Foundation for Success
E*Trade Financial: Laying the Foundation for Success
ASSUMING that the current rate of default and delinquency continues in Etrade's portfolio (which the current RV portfolio has a DELINQUENCY RATE of 1.1%). The end of the year ALLOWANCE will be 1.96 BLN.
That is the allowance, not the charge off. The charge off was roughly one quarter of that bringing that number down to 490 MLN for the year. I seem to remember that the statement of 1.5 BLN was a charge off statement, I may be wrong. I still don't see the doomsday scenario you propose.
Now, I have not yet had time to look at the 700 mln you are talking about, I will try and find it later. Please enlighten us as to how you concluded that. I didn't see any statement about 700 mln and writedown anywhere. I could have missed though. It is early and I have yet to have my coffee.
I really think you are painting a doomsday picture. ETFC is not CFC. They both have a fc in them, but they are not the same company. Just wanted to clarify that. If what you say really happens, I think we all should seriously consider as to whether you want to stay in the US as it will fold. We all should consider it. Seriously, you underestimate the resilience of people. Especially those with good credit.
More later . . . I am sure
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If BAC would punt on CFC, then I would retract on the tendon comment. I am not sure I would do a short term play on CFC even if it dropped to $3.00. It just really feels like CFC is REALLY unraveling, and the rope is running out, and it is raining, and someone smeared grease all over El Capitan. There may be something much bigger than two companies here at play.
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thank you.
being a numbers guy, I appreciate this type of stuff. Models are good, and I in good faith have to take your model, the ONLY model I have seen, and go with it.
I just want to say one thing. I am calling on $15 by the end of the year, prescient is calling $15 1Q09. Close enough when we look at time lines and the fact that I am in at about $4. It was great to see that Prescient corrected the cost of the 1.75B. It was nice to see that you ran the model again with the limited constraint, but the first showed the importance of the variables(and the ones that matter). I have to assume (and hopefully not to liberally), that the powers that be at Etrade know these potentially wayward variables and are taking measures to correct them (i.e. refinance the whole 1.75B with a new win of a government auction). I know very little about all of this, but isn't it possible that Etrade could, over the next year, refinance that down to 8%? Is there a prepayment? et cetera?
In any case, from what I can see of your numbers, and taking into account quaismatter's account of default rates and how they affect
the mortgage portfolio, it seems to me like prescient and I are not too far off on our calls, especially if Etrade can muster a 8% growth rate.
I now, thanks to jbmaria, have earned the name "pumper elf". Wow, I do not know what to say. I am kind of flattered. I guess the light at the end of the tunnel might not be a freight train after all. Imagine that for all of these years I have expected a train, to my suprise, to my suprise. Thank you jbmaria, for bringing me peace.
And Rich:
"Anyway, as far as the financials in general: Hey, look the tide mysteriously went out and there are so many pretty seashells out there, lets go collect some!"
now that is scary . . . very scary. Have you ever heard of a tsunami? That is how people get washed out to sea.
It is my personal opinion that BAC is about to have one of it's achilles tendons cut. It is already too fat to maneuver too much.
Financials and Retail: Not as Dire as They Seem
"give yourself some time for stupid to be finished"
Financials and Retail: Not as Dire as They Seem
Financials? whoa . . . I made a few bucks on the cfc-bac deal. Might make a few more if CFC gets down to four and BAC stays put. Doubt it though, it will have to look pretty darned good. Although, a 3/4 point reduction might just get one a good short term gain on the deal. Timing there. Now might be the time to get into that one, or next week. Other than that, well, I am staying away from financials. Too risky. The only financial I am playing with right now is ETFC (and some might say I am crazy for doing that).
The hypothesis about 02-03 prices is interesting. If you take the 80 month EMA, and find that the stock price is under that AND is under the 2002 share price, you might have a stock that is worth investigating (in financials and retail). BAC falls short by about 5$ on the share price. I would say that is too risky right now. If the price went to $29, yeah, I would buy. This summer isn't going to be very nice to financial stocks, but there will be a few winners, and they will bethe agressive ones.
Opinions and conjecture.
embarassing disclosure: 1% of my portfolio is CFC @ $16.80. OUCH.
E*Trade Financial: Laying the Foundation for Success
In short, I will believe the buy-out talk when I see it. For now, I will focus on how vested, and at what price I want to be in Etrade (for the next year).
E*Trade Financial: Laying the Foundation for Success
I may not have 20 years market experience, but I do know that when some guy comes online and starts screaming about how much they know, it is a good sign that something is amiss, very amiss. It is kind of like getting your retirement advice from the yahoos on Craigslist.
E*Trade Financial: Laying the Foundation for Success
https://us.etrade.com/...
Don't listen to his jibberish . . .
E*Trade Financial: Laying the Foundation for Success
Curious as to the smell of your shorts . . .
E*Trade Financial: Laying the Foundation for Success
I couldn't find anything.
Mr Egan. You are the first person I have ever heard of having a bad experience with Etrade. Sorry to hear that. I have had nothing but a wonderful experience (except over the last few days with my portfolio crying). Oh well, if the world ends tomorrow, I am just a bit poorer than I was yesterday. Can't really blame Etrade for the world ending too soon now can I?
E*Trade Financial: Laying the Foundation for Success
I am almost kicking myself right now for choosing GRMN over ETFC when it was at $3.80 the other day. Maybe it is good that I waited. Reagrdless, I have confidence in Etrade. They have a great platform. I also think that people are paying their mortgages even though their home value dropped and that the rate of defaults will range widely with various banks. I think ETFC will have the lowest, or if not the lowest, very close to it. Personal opinion.
Contrarian Indicator: Analyst Buy Ratings
If the pundits and analyst had their say about the direction of the economy and the media propaganda, T-rexes would be roaming the earth will-nilly and what humans that were left would be scampering around with limbs bleeding due to fear alone.
Lighten up a bit, and you might make some money. This piece may be a far cry from the more positive recovery spins I would like to see coming out of the pundits and analsyts (has anyone ever noticed the presence of anal in analyst?). All I see is "the sky is falling, you are going to die". I am bored. At least this piece was humorous and gave me a break.
I even bought ETFC at $3.14. Right when everyone was screaming sell. Oh well, I guess I made the wrong decision there. I don't think they sell $3.14 lottery tickets, do they?