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Plasticman
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A Look Back At the Blackstone IPO
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"Net sales in the fourth quarter rose to $201 million from $53 million a year earlier. Analysts had been looking for about $180.2 million."
Investing in a Resource-Constrained World (Part II)
NEW YORK, Feb 20 (Reuters) - Thin-film solar maker First Solar (FSLR) expects its new plant in Malaysia to cut production costs by about 20 cents per watt when it comes on line later this year.
"As we're moving to Malaysia, I think our models imply a 20 cent cost-per-watt reduction," Jens Meyerhoff, First Solar chief financial officer, told a Piper Jaffray investment conference.
First Solar has said its production costs in the fourth quarter fell to $1.12 per watt, down from $1.29 at the beginning of 2007.
The company's reliance on cadmium telluride rather than silicon for its solar cells has helped protect it from rising costs that have hurt other solar equipment makers.
Meyerhoff dismissed concerns by some analysts who have questioned whether the world's supplies of tellurium, one of the planet's rarest elements, would be ample enough to feed First Solar's new production.
"Tellurium availability has not impacted us. As we're building out this capacity, we're assessing supply chain readiness ... we feel comfortable with the supply," he said. (Reporting by Matt Daily, editing by Gerald E. McCormick and Maureen Bavdek)
Either they are lying or they have another source besides 5N Plus. Maybe 5n's price was too high.
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Why Canadian Solar is the Best Solar Stock
It goes into great detail of how they believe that supply will meet future demand. They do have a graph showing demand exceeding supply and using up reserves starting in 2009, but they follow it up with a comment that that scenario doesn't have new production and greater usage efficiencies factored in that will come from all the improvements that they state in the paper. They basically believe that as long as they are given the proper notice (2 years), they can meet any demand. Another chart shows that prices peaked in 2005 and have been dropping since then. Today's spot price confirms that.
Why Canadian Solar is the Best Solar Stock
"Indium Corp. of America (Utica, NY), in an apparent restoration endeavor against the WSJ article, published a press release that says it’s confident of the sustained indium-metal supply. The company insists the supply imbalance occurred because of a time lag between emerging demand and the presently available supply and that “...higher prices will draw forward additional supplies which will alleviate any scarcity.” " - I expect that a company that only deals with indium would know more than either you or me. Plus they benefit from scarcity talk since that drives the price higher, yet they are talking it down.
Here is an excerpt from displaydaily.com
"Solar cells are growing in importance and have a distinct similarity to FPDs. For example, the recently announced Sharp Gen 10 fab for $3.2B will be used not only for LCD panels but for manufacturing solar cells as well. In one year, the fab is expected to be able to produce enough solar cells to produce 1000MW of power indefinitely. This is serious power, the equivalent of a medium-sized nuclear power plant. Is Sharp likely to close this fab due to a lack of indium? Not likely!
Insight Media sees three ways of easing the coming indium shortage. First, the existing zinc and lead miners are likely to recognize the economic value of indium and make more of an effort to refine it from their ores. Second, dedicated indium mines could be developed. While $533M may not be a big market to an established multinational mining company, it is a lot in terms of a startup.
Finally, substitute transparent electrodes could be developed that reduce the demand for Indium...
Increased indium supplies and the availability of substitutes make it unlikely the LCD industry will ever need to turn away customers due to a lack of indium. That Sharp Gen 10 fab, with its 2,850 by 3,050 mm substrates, will probably find a way to operate, even with indium at $1000 (or more) per KG."
Why Canadian Solar is the Best Solar Stock
Why Canadian Solar is the Best Solar Stock
I am not trying to criticize your methodology, I just want to find a source that gives me (and you) credible numbers.
Zawy, I have not heard any discussion on Indium. Please show me a link. Obviously Popular Science missed that when they made Nanosolar Top Innovation of the Year 3 months ago. I don't claim to be an expert, but I am an engineer and can weed through the hype easily. I agree with Jack in that this discussion is helping to bring out the facts, and separate them from the hype. It is the whole issue of not being able to get to the facts that is so frustrating for me. SOLF is a good example of that.
Why Canadian Solar is the Best Solar Stock
Why Canadian Solar is the Best Solar Stock
Personally I like the solar companies that use CIGS technology. I believe that eventually they will take over the market, and the silicon based companies will implode because they won't be able to compete. Today there was a good article written in the Motley Fool that does a good job of comparing the technology. Here is a link to it. www.fool.com/investing.... The only aspect that I believe that they got wrong is the statement about CIGS having a lower efficiency. While that is true for most of the companies, Nanosolar states an efficiency in the 20% range, which is right there with the silicon manufacturers.
Why Canadian Solar is the Best Solar Stock
I am a big believe that in the long run the CIGS companies are going to be the big winners, and the silicon based companies will implode because they will be priced out of the market. There is a new article out by the Motley Fool today on the subject. The only thing that they state that I disagree with is that CIGS is automatically less efficient. The Nanosolar technology seems to be at par with silicon. Here is a link www.fool.com/investing...
Why Canadian Solar is the Best Solar Stock
Why Canadian Solar is the Best Solar Stock
Now to the problem. I can't find a source for accurate numbers. For instance if I pull up quotes on E-trade for CSIQ, and SOLF I see EPS of $-0.44 and $0.3252 respectively. However if I go to the earnings screen it shows quarterly numbers that add up to $-0.42 and $2.47 respectively. Both numbers for CSIQ are very different than the article above, and the quarterly numbers for SOLF don't add up to the trailing 12. If I go to Yahoo Finance for SOLF it shows EPS of $.36 and shows the same quarterly numbers as E-trade (in analyst estimates screen) for the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd quarters. So what is going on?