Steve Alexander's Comments Steve Alexander's Comments RSS Syndication from SeekingAlpha.com http://seekingalpha.comuser/149011/comments Forbes' 200 Best Small Companies Through the Magic Formula Screen http://seekingalpha.com/article/176054-forbes-200-best-small-companies-through-the-magic-formula-screen?source=feed#comment-786480 786480
For MFI return on capital, anything over 100% I would consider very high, 60-100% quite high.

For large-cap, blue chip stocks like KO or PG, you usually see an earnings yield around 6-7% and ROIC in the 30-40% range.

On Dec 02 10:59 AM TATyszka wrote:

> Not everyone is hip to this Magic Formula. You think you could give
> us a little perspective? What's a good score? As low as possible?
> As high as possible? A particular range?]]>
Wed, 02 Dec 2009 11:21:08 -0500
For MFI return on capital, anything over 100% I would consider very high, 60-100% quite high.

For large-cap, blue chip stocks like KO or PG, you usually see an earnings yield around 6-7% and ROIC in the 30-40% range.

On Dec 02 10:59 AM TATyszka wrote:

> Not everyone is hip to this Magic Formula. You think you could give
> us a little perspective? What's a good score? As low as possible?
> As high as possible? A particular range?]]>
China Sky's Financial Statements: Huge Discrepancies http://seekingalpha.com/article/175055-china-sky-s-financial-statements-huge-discrepancies?source=feed#comment-776365 776365
How on earth is CSKI internally funding a $13 million headquarters expansion? They are moving in this month, and it is verifiable.

Why would the company even consider (or be in financial position to) export products to Canada? Yet, that's what they are doing, and it is verifiable.

Even you mention the low revenues of the suppliers (presumably Heilongjiang Kangda Medicine Co. and Harbin Zhongjia Chem) in their SAIC filings - is it conceivable that a lot of Chinese companies under-report revenue?

Finally, if the company does what it says and the 2009 SAIC filing matches up with the SEC filings, you are in big, big trouble with your short position.

This is a dangerous short, and your case against it is not that strong.]]>
Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:54:30 -0500
How on earth is CSKI internally funding a $13 million headquarters expansion? They are moving in this month, and it is verifiable.

Why would the company even consider (or be in financial position to) export products to Canada? Yet, that's what they are doing, and it is verifiable.

Even you mention the low revenues of the suppliers (presumably Heilongjiang Kangda Medicine Co. and Harbin Zhongjia Chem) in their SAIC filings - is it conceivable that a lot of Chinese companies under-report revenue?

Finally, if the company does what it says and the 2009 SAIC filing matches up with the SEC filings, you are in big, big trouble with your short position.

This is a dangerous short, and your case against it is not that strong.]]>
'Up Listed Chinese Companies: Above Average Returns http://seekingalpha.com/article/159165-up-listed-chinese-companies-above-average-returns?source=feed#comment-771383 771383 Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:13:26 -0500 Sturm & Ruger's Brief Burst of Value http://seekingalpha.com/article/172675-sturm-ruger-s-brief-burst-of-value?source=feed#comment-757707 757707 2008: 181.483mm, 13.537mm op profit, 7.5% op margin
2007: 156.485mm, 10.258mm op profit, 6.6% op margin
2006: 167.620mm, 0.922mm op profit, 0.6% op margin
2005: 154.722mm, 1.837mm op profit, 1.2% op margin
2004: 145.624mm, 7.024mm op profit, 4.8%

This is all directly from SEC filings. I agree that new management is doing a good job with manufacturing, but I would argue vociferously that ttm margin improvement is more due to 100% utilization than any sustained lean manufacturing. I've accounted for improvements in my higher op margin assumption, as well as in a sustained revenue figure, largely due to high ASPs for the SR-556, despite what is sure to be lower volume due to pushed up sales.

There are no factual errors in the analysis, and margin assumptions are of course open to speculation. The gun business is not a secular growth market (in fact probably the opposite), so I believe it is difficult to justify $200mm in revenue. It is competitive as well, making it difficult to justify margin assumptions that are significantly and sustainably higher than historical averages.]]>
Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:30:43 -0500 2008: 181.483mm, 13.537mm op profit, 7.5% op margin
2007: 156.485mm, 10.258mm op profit, 6.6% op margin
2006: 167.620mm, 0.922mm op profit, 0.6% op margin
2005: 154.722mm, 1.837mm op profit, 1.2% op margin
2004: 145.624mm, 7.024mm op profit, 4.8%

This is all directly from SEC filings. I agree that new management is doing a good job with manufacturing, but I would argue vociferously that ttm margin improvement is more due to 100% utilization than any sustained lean manufacturing. I've accounted for improvements in my higher op margin assumption, as well as in a sustained revenue figure, largely due to high ASPs for the SR-556, despite what is sure to be lower volume due to pushed up sales.

There are no factual errors in the analysis, and margin assumptions are of course open to speculation. The gun business is not a secular growth market (in fact probably the opposite), so I believe it is difficult to justify $200mm in revenue. It is competitive as well, making it difficult to justify margin assumptions that are significantly and sustainably higher than historical averages.]]>
5 Things to Consider Before Buying and Holding http://seekingalpha.com/article/167115-5-things-to-consider-before-buying-and-holding?source=feed#comment-719719 719719

On Oct 18 02:50 PM VennData wrote:

> The idea that "For one, it is much easier to see and predict long-term
> business trends and advantages then it is to predict what is going
> to happen over the next few months or weeks." is comical.
>
> Prove it.
>
> This is just more Wall Street marketing (aka give me your money to
> invest for you.)]]>
Sun, 18 Oct 2009 17:19:58 -0400

On Oct 18 02:50 PM VennData wrote:

> The idea that "For one, it is much easier to see and predict long-term
> business trends and advantages then it is to predict what is going
> to happen over the next few months or weeks." is comical.
>
> Prove it.
>
> This is just more Wall Street marketing (aka give me your money to
> invest for you.)]]>
KHD: A Promising Value Stock http://seekingalpha.com/article/166446-khd-a-promising-value-stock?source=feed#comment-717732 717732 Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:54:23 -0400 eBay: Growth at the Right Bid http://seekingalpha.com/article/166681-ebay-growth-at-the-right-bid?source=feed#comment-716782 716782
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Jacobs Engineering: A Constructive Long-Term View http://seekingalpha.com/article/166575-jacobs-engineering-a-constructive-long-term-view?source=feed#comment-716775 716775
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Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:00:11 -0400
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Questcor Pharmaceuticals: Risky, But Cheap http://seekingalpha.com/article/163787-questcor-pharmaceuticals-risky-but-cheap?source=feed#comment-695258 695258
Thanks for the comments.]]>
Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:04:59 -0400
Thanks for the comments.]]>
Polo Ralph Lauren: Doing Fine, But There's Cause for Concern http://seekingalpha.com/article/126956-polo-ralph-lauren-doing-fine-but-there-s-cause-for-concern?source=feed#comment-479711 479711 Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:32:12 -0400 3 Intriguing Points About Qiao Xing Mobile http://seekingalpha.com/article/132891-3-intriguing-points-about-qiao-xing-mobile?source=feed#comment-479707 479707 > Contradiction: "I've given Qiao Xing a C+ for growth potential. The
> Chinese mobile phone market is one of the most attractive in the
> world for several reasons."

It would be a contradiction if Qiao Xing was a market leader with little competition. It is neither. It may or may not benefit from market growth due to price and feature competition. It's unclear, and hence a C+.]]>
Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:30:23 -0400 > Contradiction: "I've given Qiao Xing a C+ for growth potential. The
> Chinese mobile phone market is one of the most attractive in the
> world for several reasons."

It would be a contradiction if Qiao Xing was a market leader with little competition. It is neither. It may or may not benefit from market growth due to price and feature competition. It's unclear, and hence a C+.]]>
Nokia's a Juggernaut, But What's Left to Conquer? http://seekingalpha.com/article/131312-nokia-s-a-juggernaut-but-what-s-left-to-conquer?source=feed#comment-466412 466412 > OS like Apple's or RIM's" and why those of Apple and RIM are ?<br/>I
> am not aware of any technical reasons why one of them is not for
> true smartphones.

Apple and RIM both designed their operating system to handle smartphone activities like email, internet, and so forth, and have structured them to be expandable through third party applications that utilize QWERTY keypads and other hardware features.

Symbian was historically developed for phone hardware - number keypads that could perform some tasks like text messaging. Trying to shape and mold this into a good smartphone OS will be a challenge. You need to have a lot of low level features like memory management, task switching, data protection, power management, and so forth. Symbian was not developed with these in mind and adapting an operating system can take as long as creating a new one.]]>
Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:01:47 -0400 > OS like Apple's or RIM's" and why those of Apple and RIM are ?<br/>I
> am not aware of any technical reasons why one of them is not for
> true smartphones.

Apple and RIM both designed their operating system to handle smartphone activities like email, internet, and so forth, and have structured them to be expandable through third party applications that utilize QWERTY keypads and other hardware features.

Symbian was historically developed for phone hardware - number keypads that could perform some tasks like text messaging. Trying to shape and mold this into a good smartphone OS will be a challenge. You need to have a lot of low level features like memory management, task switching, data protection, power management, and so forth. Symbian was not developed with these in mind and adapting an operating system can take as long as creating a new one.]]>
Why Return on Capital Is So Important to Investors http://seekingalpha.com/article/131148-why-return-on-capital-is-so-important-to-investors?source=feed#comment-466387 466387 > using those particular accounts? It seems more intuitive to me to
> define "invested capital" as net debt + equity. More explanation
> on your invested capital formula would be great.

The idea is to count "invested capital" as the net assets that are employed in generating profits. Lots of good companies have huge cash wads that are not employed in core profit generating activities. If you include these extra assets, your return on capital figure will be unduly low.

> 2) Also in your invested capital formula, you have (Short-term Liabilities
> + Interest Bearing ST Liabilities). But Interest Bearing ST Liabilities
> are already in Short-term Liabilities, so aren't you double counting
> here?

No, it removes Interest Bearing ST Liabilities from the equation. I would be double counting if it was (Short-term Liabilities - Interest Bearing ST Liabilities).
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Fri, 17 Apr 2009 09:45:29 -0400 > using those particular accounts? It seems more intuitive to me to
> define "invested capital" as net debt + equity. More explanation
> on your invested capital formula would be great.

The idea is to count "invested capital" as the net assets that are employed in generating profits. Lots of good companies have huge cash wads that are not employed in core profit generating activities. If you include these extra assets, your return on capital figure will be unduly low.

> 2) Also in your invested capital formula, you have (Short-term Liabilities
> + Interest Bearing ST Liabilities). But Interest Bearing ST Liabilities
> are already in Short-term Liabilities, so aren't you double counting
> here?

No, it removes Interest Bearing ST Liabilities from the equation. I would be double counting if it was (Short-term Liabilities - Interest Bearing ST Liabilities).
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Why Return on Capital Is So Important to Investors http://seekingalpha.com/article/131148-why-return-on-capital-is-so-important-to-investors?source=feed#comment-464833 464833
> Steve Alexander:
>
> This is a good article with good points. Thanks.
>
> These calculations certainly help to quantify a stock. Do they provide
> you with enough info to buy?
>
> Would you buy without qualifying the company? I.e., how well management
> works, how well the company markets, the quality of its products,
> competition, etc.
>

ROC is one point to look for when qualifying an investment, not the only point. Like Buffett says, a great business does not always make a great investment if it's priced too high. I always do a management and competitive analysis before recommending a stock. The Magic Formula strategy itself helps with price, as it only filters out stocks with a high operating earnings to enterprise value ratio (earnings yield).

Thanks for the comments everyone!]]>
Thu, 16 Apr 2009 08:59:00 -0400
> Steve Alexander:
>
> This is a good article with good points. Thanks.
>
> These calculations certainly help to quantify a stock. Do they provide
> you with enough info to buy?
>
> Would you buy without qualifying the company? I.e., how well management
> works, how well the company markets, the quality of its products,
> competition, etc.
>

ROC is one point to look for when qualifying an investment, not the only point. Like Buffett says, a great business does not always make a great investment if it's priced too high. I always do a management and competitive analysis before recommending a stock. The Magic Formula strategy itself helps with price, as it only filters out stocks with a high operating earnings to enterprise value ratio (earnings yield).

Thanks for the comments everyone!]]>
The Right Way to Look at Cash Flow http://seekingalpha.com/article/128594-the-right-way-to-look-at-cash-flow?source=feed#comment-447997 447997
It's interesting that it cost Home Depot 3x the depreciation in '08 for roughly 2x the stores. Logically it makes sense though, as older stores would require more upkeep than newer ones.]]>
Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:16:47 -0400
It's interesting that it cost Home Depot 3x the depreciation in '08 for roughly 2x the stores. Logically it makes sense though, as older stores would require more upkeep than newer ones.]]>
LCA-Vision: Have Revenues Bottomed? http://seekingalpha.com/article/121486-lca-vision-have-revenues-bottomed?source=feed#comment-395629 395629
I do agree with you that LCA has a great chance to be a stellar investment when the market turns, seeing as TLC is in a much more precarious position.

Steve
MagicDiligence.com]]>
Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:16:15 -0500
I do agree with you that LCA has a great chance to be a stellar investment when the market turns, seeing as TLC is in a much more precarious position.

Steve
MagicDiligence.com]]>
Using the 'Magic Formula' to Find Foreign Stocks http://seekingalpha.com/article/119583-using-the-magic-formula-to-find-foreign-stocks?source=feed#comment-383283 383283
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Tue, 10 Feb 2009 23:16:25 -0500
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Does Pfizer / Wyeth Merger Create an Arbitrage Opportunity? http://seekingalpha.com/article/116746-does-pfizer-wyeth-merger-create-an-arbitrage-opportunity?source=feed#comment-367544 367544
Also, since this is not an all cash deal, the arbitrage target is constantly moving with Pfizer's stock. Given that this deal has a lot of short term negatives (20% equity dilution, big debt load, dividend cut), it looks a bit risky to me.

Steve
MagicDiligence.com]]>
Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:41:50 -0500
Also, since this is not an all cash deal, the arbitrage target is constantly moving with Pfizer's stock. Given that this deal has a lot of short term negatives (20% equity dilution, big debt load, dividend cut), it looks a bit risky to me.

Steve
MagicDiligence.com]]>
Quick Take: The Mosaic Company http://seekingalpha.com/article/115247-quick-take-the-mosaic-company?source=feed#comment-359051 359051
magicformulainvesting....
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What Apple Is Doing Wrong and Why It Means Trouble http://seekingalpha.com/article/114899-what-apple-is-doing-wrong-and-why-it-means-trouble?source=feed#comment-356679 356679
Apple's computers fill the "BMW" niche - they are generally cache, but even an objective viewer would generally consider the build quality and experience superior to the Dell's and Acer's of the world. While this is not really a sustainable competitive advantage, it is a current one.

Jobs leaving, if it turns out to be permanent, it certainly a long term concern, but he's built a company that can sustain itself for many years without him. The bench here is strong too - Cook is a solid ops guy, Ive and Forestall are top notch hardware and software guys, respectively, and Schiller has overseen a very successful marketing operation. I wouldn't worry about Apple, especially at these prices.

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Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:15:25 -0500
Apple's computers fill the "BMW" niche - they are generally cache, but even an objective viewer would generally consider the build quality and experience superior to the Dell's and Acer's of the world. While this is not really a sustainable competitive advantage, it is a current one.

Jobs leaving, if it turns out to be permanent, it certainly a long term concern, but he's built a company that can sustain itself for many years without him. The bench here is strong too - Cook is a solid ops guy, Ive and Forestall are top notch hardware and software guys, respectively, and Schiller has overseen a very successful marketing operation. I wouldn't worry about Apple, especially at these prices.

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The Good and Bad of Fertilizer Stocks http://seekingalpha.com/article/113474-the-good-and-bad-of-fertilizer-stocks?source=feed#comment-356475 356475 Thu, 15 Jan 2009 09:51:25 -0500 Why Joel Greenblatt's 'Magic Formula' Outperforms, and How to Do Even Better http://seekingalpha.com/article/113041-why-joel-greenblatt-s-magic-formula-outperforms-and-how-to-do-even-better?source=feed#comment-350075 350075
www.magicdiligence.com...

The strategy has worked and will continue to work. O'Shaughnessy's studies collaborate Greenblatt's findings. Low multiple stocks outperform over long periods of time. End of story.]]>
Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:55:19 -0500
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The strategy has worked and will continue to work. O'Shaughnessy's studies collaborate Greenblatt's findings. Low multiple stocks outperform over long periods of time. End of story.]]>
Quick Take: Herman Miller Inc. http://seekingalpha.com/article/113067-quick-take-herman-miller-inc?source=feed#comment-349872 349872 > but decided to tweak it a bit by using his simple approach to just
> get me the first screen, then apply some DCF to the companies that
> I thought had competitive advantages, high barriers, for undervalued
> plays.
>
> Are you doing something similar along those lines? I couldn't jump
> straight in blindly and use his system. The back testing research
> he did shows good results, but I'm not sure if he ran his back test
> across every possible permutation of stock sets over the same period.

What you describe is basically what I'm doing at MagicDiligence. Several MFI stocks are also faddish, some have poor financial health, others are cheap because they are in declining industries. I steer readers away from those and into the truly great ones that can sustain competitive advantage over a long period of time.
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Thu, 08 Jan 2009 13:03:59 -0500 > but decided to tweak it a bit by using his simple approach to just
> get me the first screen, then apply some DCF to the companies that
> I thought had competitive advantages, high barriers, for undervalued
> plays.
>
> Are you doing something similar along those lines? I couldn't jump
> straight in blindly and use his system. The back testing research
> he did shows good results, but I'm not sure if he ran his back test
> across every possible permutation of stock sets over the same period.

What you describe is basically what I'm doing at MagicDiligence. Several MFI stocks are also faddish, some have poor financial health, others are cheap because they are in declining industries. I steer readers away from those and into the truly great ones that can sustain competitive advantage over a long period of time.
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Quick Take: Herman Miller Inc. http://seekingalpha.com/article/113067-quick-take-herman-miller-inc?source=feed#comment-346257 346257
I completely agree that the company is well run. My main concerns are long term competitive pressures and of course near term macro-economic risks.

Thanks again.

Steve Alexander]]>
Mon, 05 Jan 2009 09:30:32 -0500
I completely agree that the company is well run. My main concerns are long term competitive pressures and of course near term macro-economic risks.

Thanks again.

Steve Alexander]]>
Book Review: Warren Buffett and the Interpretation of Financial Statements, by Mary Buffett and David Clark http://seekingalpha.com/article/111908-book-review-warren-buffett-and-the-interpretation-of-financial-statements-by-mary-buffett-and-david-clark?source=feed#comment-336641 336641 Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:16:45 -0500 Big Media: Future Growth Depends on Serious Change http://seekingalpha.com/article/104907-big-media-future-growth-depends-on-serious-change?source=feed#comment-302315 302315 > Just wait. There will be "Lehmans" in the communications business.

Lehman, Bear, AIG, etc. were all levered 25-30 times and held the bulk of their assets in illiquid securities of unknowable value. How does this even remotely compare to the media corporations like News Corp that still is forecasting 4.4 billion dollars in profit even in a down market?

It's fun to make bold proclamations, especially when there is no responsibility attached, but please try to provide value to SeekingAlpha readers.

Steve
MagicDiligence.com]]>
Mon, 10 Nov 2008 16:29:37 -0500 > Just wait. There will be "Lehmans" in the communications business.

Lehman, Bear, AIG, etc. were all levered 25-30 times and held the bulk of their assets in illiquid securities of unknowable value. How does this even remotely compare to the media corporations like News Corp that still is forecasting 4.4 billion dollars in profit even in a down market?

It's fun to make bold proclamations, especially when there is no responsibility attached, but please try to provide value to SeekingAlpha readers.

Steve
MagicDiligence.com]]>
What's an Investor to Do - Patience or Panic? http://seekingalpha.com/article/99033-what-s-an-investor-to-do-patience-or-panic?source=feed#comment-277689 277689 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 10:17:18 -0400 News Pitch: Why To Buy News Corp http://seekingalpha.com/article/93078-news-pitch-why-to-buy-news-corp?source=feed#comment-241478 241478 Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:47:10 -0400 News Pitch: Why To Buy News Corp http://seekingalpha.com/article/93078-news-pitch-why-to-buy-news-corp?source=feed#comment-241476 241476 www.magicdiligence.com...]]> Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:46:23 -0400 www.magicdiligence.com...]]> Thor Industries: Strength From Weakness http://seekingalpha.com/article/93043-thor-industries-strength-from-weakness?source=feed#comment-240797 240797
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