azcaballer

The Cost of a Global Empire

Propaganda? What exactly are you spouting? You stated, "for reallity to become clear" (sic) you need to see the other side. What is the other side? Where would you prefer to live? I would prefer to live in a country at peace, I see where you could mean peace through strength, but come on. The US has taken that to an entirely new level where the military is the country and not a part of it.

You also mentioned "propaganda was not the main cause of any of those" This article points out that the United States spends half the worlds budget on military expenditure fuels a race with those that are antagonized by our insane defense spending levels.

Is it propaganda to point out (truthfully) that those resources wasted on defending the US from all powerful enemy (which judged by the sheer volume of spending must mean, the rest of the world and maybe even the people here in the US as well) could be used to other more positively beneficial means?

Pointing out that the US has its objectives backwards, and that murder should not be the business of the US, sadly that is becoming our number one export.


On Mar 31 09:02 AM socrateazz wrote:

> This is interesting! My guess it took months to write this propaganda!
> I know you believe money spent on the millitary would go to better
> use. On the contrary I believe people act in what they see as their
> best interests. They will not try to take what they think they can
> not. They will take what they think they can take. They will punish
> where they think they can punish much like you propagandize where
> you think it will help. Part of the reason the US has been the country
> it is, is because few would challange the country directly. History
> has shown no country enduring without an adequate millitary. And
> the greater the country the more advanced is the need for millitary.
> I know you live in a world where you feel relatively safe within
> the country. That does not come cheap! In fact I think the US
> millitary is historically inexpensive compared to past nations.
> Propaganda wars like you have is good. One must see the other side
> for reallity to become clear. Quesion to concider: Has propaganda
> wars ( like the one you. have here) caused more death than conventional
> wars? You answer shows your point of view more than the reality!
> What started; The revolutionary war? The civil war? The spanish
> American war? WWI and WWII? If propaganda was not the main cause
> of any of those, Check again!

Looking for Hope

Stone Fox,

What gave you the idea that we have a free market? The market hasn't been free since 1913, when the bankers took over and started printing debt money. This is all part of the boom bust cycle written about by Von Mises and others. All this has done has brought forward the inevitable bust (not the last by any means).

Passing that republic breaking act would only postpone it. The USA will NEVER pay off its debt, that is impossible to do with the current rules. The only way to fix this is to move back to a system of sound money that is not manipulatable by bankers and special interests.

The Presidential Speech, in Context

Dear Flamorte,

I think Mr. Jensen speaks for more people than you may realise. He is speaking to those who, I believe see what is truly happening.

Our "betters" are putting on a display, it is all an act, and they are going to do, what they are going to do, and we as the "people" are going to take it on the chin, as always. The curtain is peeling back, the inner workings of the real government are coming to the forefront. They are showing us what we want to see, the truth is our government is a charade and not what it once was (or what we thought it is), and the average guy is seeing it for the first time. Then, they are flicking the channel over and getting back to watching the stories on the wall. How long till firemen stop putting out fires?

So the President speaks to the people and says, "we need to do what we need to do or it's (insert catastrophe)". Same thing they always say and same result too.

Once upon a time, some people got together and said, "ENOUGH". They put together for the first time ever a government that holds the people sovereign, not the government (this is important). This was the first time individuals held the power, the property and granted privileges to the government, and not the other way around. This is gone.

Now, our power to say no is gone, some are trying, they'll be ignored. They are saying, "this is our money why should we be punished for their stupidity?" The answer: You just live here, and we make the rules, now shut up and get back to work.

Flamorte, I think you are starting to see it, and you don't want to believe it. You're angry, and you should be, but point your anger in the right direction. It isn't fun to be conned.

America's Fiscal Crisis: Tough Decisions Needed Now

CLH,

Calling people names, is a refuge of a fool. Prove that Mr. Quinn is wrong, use something other than your OPINION to back it up. Frankly, your response has made you look a fool.

Ok, then if Paul is an Idiot and you don't agree with this article by Mr. Quinn. Then what is happening? Or are you scared? I think your current idea of how the world works is being threatened and you are scared, and you should be! Now what are you going to do? Call people names, make unsubstantiated claims? Well, if that is your strategy then good luck to you.

Open your eyes, things aren't right, and calling people names, is not going to achieve a damn thing. Use your mind, listen to people like Mr. Quinn and do your own research!

The Economic Cost of the Military Industrial Complex

BFH,

You are a comunitarian! If you don't know what you are look it up.

I am a libertarian. I don't want to have a group of people that regulate me, with out my say. Remember what Paine said in "Common Sense"? Probably not if you spout out the crap like you just said, yet you claim to be an American.

"Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one: for when we suffer, or are exposed to the same miseries BY A GOVERNMENT, which we might expect in a country WITHOUT GOVERNMENT, our calamity is heightened by reflecting that we furnish the means by which we suffer." Paine “Common Sense” 2/14/1776

Being an American is about personal independence and ownership, yes ownership, "I am" is the phrase we use not "ours". It is MY work, not our work, it is MY property not our property. I am not a slave, I own my life. I am sovereign and I delegate to the government I don't ASK government for permission they ask ME for permission! That is being American! Liberty is what America stands for, the shining city on a hill that leads by example. I said Example not Coercion.

People like you, that wish to regulate, and regulate and want for the common good and want to rule by committee and like averages. You know what average is? It is half way to terrible! I want excellent and you don't get excellent by making everyone average. So if you want average and you want community and common good and you want everyone to be equal through regulation by the Elite then go back to Europe or where ever you spent those 8 wonderful years but, don't go to Asia because they at least know what being excellent is! This communitarion crap you spout will not work there, they have had their chance to have a good long look at average and below average for quite a while and you know what. The Asians don't like it, who could blame them.

I want freedom to let people do what they want to do, be what they want to be. What is good for me is usually good for others.

Before you say you’re proud to be an American learn what it means to be an American! Read Paine, Monroe, Jefferson & Adams ( the guy on the beer not the president).

And if those aren't your ideals then you might not be an American. It is your Ideas that make you an American not your birthplace. If you love liberty and hate violence. If you own your life, labour and ideas and would never be a slave or steal those of others. If you take responsibility for yourself and your actions. Then you are an American I don't care where you were born! If these don’t apply to you then YOU are NOT one of us! You should then find your own people and do what ever it is that you all want to do and stop trying to OWN us!

We Americans have had about enough of this crap, we are unbeatable. America is an idea you can’t kill ideas. We can’t loose! Your system will not work, it requires control, our system does not

The Economic Cost of the Military Industrial Complex

Excellent article!

Those on this post that defend the spending need to read another book written by a Marine corps Major General and 2 Medal of Honor winner
Smedley Darlington Butler and his book "War is a Racket"

I thought like many on this site do at one time, that read the newspapers and believed what they were told and felt that they were well informed. This is a short book and worth reading here it is for free: www.horstwisdom.com/wi...

This is very relevant to an investment forum because we Americans are all being robbed by our government!