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33 Comments
Philip Morris Continues to Smoke On
Citi's Desperate Straits
Why? Are you saying that any stock that trades under $10/share has a "very high probability of going to zero"? Or is there another reason that the current price level is such a good indication that zero is in the offing? Please enlighten.
Stocks Are Not Too Cheap
Don't Buy Into Share Buybacks
What Is the Fed Waiting For?
Nice call Kathy. :-)
GE Looks Very Attractive Here
S&P 500 Price Growth: 1927-Aug 2008
The S&P 500 has risen 11 fold since 1980 so I don't agree with you that equity investing has been "a complete scam". I read somewhere that over 80% of all five year periods dating back to the Great Depression has seen the market ahead; over 95% for ten year periods. We are experiencing a second major bear market in just the past eight years, something not too common, so the last ten year period is unusually terrible. I see further downside too, perhaps below 1000 on the S&P, but I plan to go shopping again at some point.
If You Think the Dow Did Well Today, You're Wrong
For ALL the reasons others have posted, this article shows you cannot be objective. You've lost credibility.
The Lehman Situation: Brutally Logical, or Patently Illogical?
As to your points why LEH is trading below $4, I think its true many do not believe Lehman has correctly priced the value of its assets. But at the same time, they probably cannot tell you what the true value is, so it seems more of a nervous reaction along with the assumption that current book value is much lower. Hard to believe though that with all of LEH's writedowns, many quite aggressive, that the true value is that much askew from reality. In addition, even the rating agencies are not concerned about liquidity; rather, they see this as a problem of confidence, which sort of annoys me because they are basically making things worse. Finally, I think Lehman's 2009 EPS forecast is too high but as little to do with what's going on here. Most of the housing companies will lose money next year, for example, but most aren't selling below $4 a share (although their balance sheets are probably in worse shape).
If more people looked at this logically like your article did, we would not be seeing the level of panic that we are, in my opinion. One article today reported the Koreans were willling to pay $26/share for 25% of the company just last month. But hysteria trumps reason in the short term and so LEH is in a pickle. I think Fuld has handled this situation horribly but its possible that he thought it would be patently illogical for the market to react the way that it has, so he didn't react quickly enough.
And possibly a combination of all three. That’s where the brutal logic of the recent Lehman trading comes into play.
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Forget the Moral Outrage: Just Restore the Mortgage Markets
Its just my opinion but I don't think - and never did - it was a question of "should" or not. I always looked at it as a consequence of what needs to be done. Like a lion hunting its prey; there is no malice involved or moral judgement, the lion does what it needs to survive. As you wrote, "We need to get them capital in the least costly and quickest fashion that we can, reestablish a normal mortgage market and then deal with a longer-term vision." If they can do that w/o wiping out current shareholder, they will. If they can't....
I can see a scenario, for example, where a reverse split is done (1:20) and then the government kicks in $5 billion and raises another $5 billion with the issuance of new shares at $10/share (an arbitrary figure but based on the number of shares outstanding, the new capital structure, etc.). Current shareholders would lose a lot - though not everything - but FNM and FRE would be in better shape and I think confidence would improve.
I agree that shareholders are not to blame for this mess. I didn't blame them for Enron or Worldcom either. But they are suffering like any investor would when the company invested in turns out to be a disaster. Of course, until we know the details of the plan, its just speculation how current shareholders will fare. Still, I'm betting not very well based on statements Paulson as made in the past, what media sources have been reporting, as well as some legislators. In other words, in spite of the lack of details, multiple sources are saying it doesn't look good for current shareholders and so that's what I believe at this moment.
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