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Global Outage at eBay: Seller Confidence Shaken as Holidays Approach

Hey The Lonely - if you're looking for mean-spirited I suggest you try a mirror. We're speaking truthfully about a company - you, on the other hand, are personally attacking us. Whatsamatta - are we not entitled to an opinion that might differ from yours? Have a good holiday anyway ;-)

Global Outage at eBay: Seller Confidence Shaken as Holidays Approach

Happy Thanksgiving everyone...even Ebay++++ and Lonely - maybe they can have thanksgiving dinner with JD himself...that is if their DSR's are high enough and they're willing to pay the fee ;-)

Global Outage at eBay: Seller Confidence Shaken as Holidays Approach

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Patricia,

Having read your comments on the subject, I have to say that they are quite mean-spirited and your attitude toward Ebay goes well beyond hating management. And hating a management team seems rather extreme in any case. But to each her own.

I think the current Ebay team has done a great job of undoing some major missteps by the previous group. "

Shows right there where you're coming from. Nuff said! As for trying to put me off my path - nope, its set in concrete - you don't like it, don't read it! I owe the original or classic Ebay the "noise" I make now. Nothing will stop me so safe your typing.

Global Outage at eBay: Seller Confidence Shaken as Holidays Approach

What in the world is all that? Its certainly not what I posted. Please disregard that long long post - some glitch or something happened - that's not my post.

Global Outage at eBay: Seller Confidence Shaken as Holidays Approach

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Outages exactly like this were once fairly common on Ebay. So, I assume that as part their obvious failure to spend money to fix their crappy, confusing site they found some band-aid approach to allow some improved functionality without actually fixing this problem.
The site was an outdaated mess 12 years ago. It has gotten worse as they constantly add on confusing hidden, complex procedures required to get any helpful information they're not interested in divulging.
A disastrous "best match" default search that brings up favored large sellers of Chinese dreck with 26 days to go before small sellers with a minute left on their auctions.
Garish banner ads popping up and slowing down the clunky site even more.
A general sense, also true of Paypal, management's main interest anyway, that they'll stoop as low as possible to squeeze every nickle for themselves and not put it into improving the business.
This outage is a fitting start to the holiday season for these shysters at the beginning of their lame, cribbed ad campaign, come to think of it.
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So......Scot,
List your 10 Items NOW PLEASE.
Remember, 5 in "buy it now" Format, 5 in Auction Format.
All Auctions to END no later than Nov. 30.
I'm guessing you have absolutely No Intention, as you can't be bothered wasting your valuable time LOSING MONEY on Ebay.
The very fact that SCOT WINGO Won't list anything on Ebay, would be Proof that Ebay is indeed a useless website now.
Thanks for verifying that for us Scot.
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Maybe a Hacker??

eBay has p*ssed off a lot of people, and it seems possible to me that a few of them may have hacking skills.

Sad for the small sellers, but the thought of Diamonds losing large sums of money brings a smile to my face :)
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What about those of us who are out of work and rely on sales to pay our bills? The search and access to our items was knocked out but the sale of items already bid on continued. As you may know, the last seconds of an auction are when the money is made. I lost money because of ebays incompetence. They should have shut the whole site down including ending auctions until they fixed the problem.

More of heartless corporate ebay greed.
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Now they blame a listing Surge!!!

ROFLMAO!!!

They wanted to advertise the site, this should do it.
Bet Amazon and many other sites had a field day!
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> Judging by the hint given in the AB post - "errors in our backend systems"

How very nice of you to low key the "hint" (preview.tinyurl.com/y... we left.

I find it worrisome that a computer professional like yourself or the staff of ChannelAdvisor didn't immediately pick up what "backend" meant.

Our collective short take from 11/21:
Is eBay Search Burning? preview.tinyurl.com/y8...

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Nothing new here - seller confidence has been shaken for the past two years! Does anyone here think Ebay cares? They're obviously too dense or too stupid to care about the loss of buyers and the fears of sellers - most buyers yesterday who came to the site and couldn't search obviously went elsewhere to make their purchases. I have no idea what Ebay's business model is these days but it sure isn't in making SALES!
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As of right now (check time stamp) E-Bay is working fine, or at least it is with Safari, I didn't check with Firefox or anybody else. My sole use of E-Bay is to do the occasional market check on something I'm thinking of buying, and that's only if it's big ticket, and here lately I've not done a lot of that.
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Is someone actually suggesting that anyone at eBay actually knows what day it is?
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You people are so shallow, eBay is a unique site with 200M live listings. Each of these pages are interactive, the technical challenge is daunting. No other site in the World is like eBay, from what I hear they have to break new technical ground all the time just to support it. But I'm sure anyone of you could do it. Bob C, 5 million in your pocket and you could do it right? ...LOL
Yes, I'm blowing the eBay horn again. 33% increase in listings from the same time last year, WOW. Hey Patricia you said eBay was dying, I don't get it, why a 33% increase in listings? Just can't be? It must be eBay SPIN again. As Bob C says "ROFLMAO!!!"
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hey ebay++++ did you read the article on Auctionbytes? Amazon beat your 800 lb senseless gorilla in unique visitors in October - beat them by almost 4,000,000!!!! I bought on Amazon so I'm one of the 4M. Whatcha got to say now? Furthermore it is expected Amazon will beat Ebay's November 2006 record this month!!!!! Whatcha got to say about that? Huh? Baghdad Bob??? ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,
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hey ebay+++++++++ here it is...read it and weep. Doesn't matter if they have a million items listed - their sell thru rate is dismal! AND most of the listing are by diamond sellers who don't even pay a listing fee! LMAOROFPMP!

blog.auctionbytes.com/...

(at least you keep the threads amusing) LOL
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Patricia, I've said my peace on Amazon. Just Purchased 3 items off eBay, all great deals...
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This Amazon vs. Ebay debate has lost all credibility. The anti-Ebay crowd wouldn't care what Ebay did, they hate the company and that's it. Ebay isn't as horrible as they say and Amazon is far from perfect. As for economics, Ebay beats Amazon hands down. It isn't even close. I find it curious that those who hate Ebay so much never address the disparity in profits and free cash flow.

I love Amazon as a company, but the stock is a joke at current levels. I'm short Amazon for this reason. And only this reason. It is a good company at an absurd price. Meanwhile Ebay is a good company that some just love to hate.
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Listing numbers tell you nothing, if the search function doesn't work and buyers can't find your items. The sell through rate is apparently much worse than in the past, and that is just one of the problems. And what does eBay do here at the most critical time of the year for sellers, make some more changes that take their search functionality down. Sellers have asked eBay since the beginning to leave it alone at this time of the year, but to this long time seller (1996), it sure looks like they have again ignored that simple request from sellers.

For those uninformed on recent eBay changes, the Diamond Sellers are those sellers of mass merchandise, mostly from other corporate sites, who pay little or no fees to get their millions of items listed, thus raising the total listing numbers, while the small sellers get their listing rates raised, and their search results lowered to near to nothing.

Thanks again, eBay.
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Scot, I have had to increase my b&m exposure to try to cover loses from eBay decreases, but so far, that seems to be working. From what I can tell from my small little branch of the tree, most other small sellers are in a similar position. One would think it a better strategy to help all sellers increase exposure, but that is sure not what eBay is doing.

Our thanks to you for what you do, Scot.
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Nobody here "hates" Ebay - what we hate is management and what they are doing to the site. There's a big difference between hating Ebay and hating its management. I think we all know that with this stubborn new management team and its disruptive behavior the only hope for Ebay as a company is for it to go down far enough so that this inadequate management team finally and completely gets swept out! I believe that's the general thinking here.
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Patricia,

Having read your comments on the subject, I have to say that they are quite mean-spirited and your attitude toward Ebay goes well beyond hating management. And hating a management team seems rather extreme in any case. But to each her own.

I think the current Ebay team has done a great job of undoing some major missteps by the previous group. "

Shows right there where you're coming from. Nuff said! As for trying to put me off my path - nope, its set in concrete - you don't like it, don't read it! I owe the original or classic Ebay the "noise" I make now. Nothing will stop me so safe your typing.

Global Outage at eBay: Seller Confidence Shaken as Holidays Approach

Nobody here "hates" Ebay - what we hate is management and what they are doing to the site. There's a big difference between hating Ebay and hating its management. I think we all know that with this stubborn new management team and its disruptive behavior the only hope for Ebay as a company is for it to go down far enough so that this inadequate management team finally and completely gets swept out! I believe that's the general thinking here.

Global Outage at eBay: Seller Confidence Shaken as Holidays Approach

hey ebay+++++++++ here it is...read it and weep. Doesn't matter if they have a million items listed - their sell thru rate is dismal! AND most of the listing are by diamond sellers who don't even pay a listing fee! LMAOROFPMP!

blog.auctionbytes.com/...

(at least you keep the threads amusing) LOL

Global Outage at eBay: Seller Confidence Shaken as Holidays Approach

hey ebay++++ did you read the article on Auctionbytes? Amazon beat your 800 lb senseless gorilla in unique visitors in October - beat them by almost 4,000,000!!!! I bought on Amazon so I'm one of the 4M. Whatcha got to say now? Furthermore it is expected Amazon will beat Ebay's November 2006 record this month!!!!! Whatcha got to say about that? Huh? Baghdad Bob??? ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,

Global Outage at eBay: Seller Confidence Shaken as Holidays Approach

Nothing new here - seller confidence has been shaken for the past two years! Does anyone here think Ebay cares? They're obviously too dense or too stupid to care about the loss of buyers and the fears of sellers - most buyers yesterday who came to the site and couldn't search obviously went elsewhere to make their purchases. I have no idea what Ebay's business model is these days but it sure isn't in making SALES!

Should eBay Go Retail?

Yep - I just got:

"We were unable to run the search you entered. Please try again in a few minutes."

Search is down and seller pages are also down.

Should eBay Go Retail?

John, I value your opinion. You're a seller down in the trenches with the rest of us. Long ago Ebay gave up on trying to give sellers what they need in order to make sales. Instead, they took up the opinion that sellers are dispensible - a dime a dozen. Well, now looks like they're running out of the good sellers...the bad ones will stick around until they're thown out and all the fancy diamond sellers are looking to get their hands on buyers who frequent Ebay so they can direct them to their own sites LOL

Should eBay Go Retail?

Tony is absolutely correct - which is what I mean when I say Donahoe is blowing smoke up your skirt! Its all smoke and mirrors - it is NOT solid growth! Ebay has been stagnant and slightly declining every quarter for the past year. In fairness to people looking to invest - I think the analysts need to be more careful about what they say about this company!

Should eBay Go Retail?

User is right. The difference between Amazon and Ebay is almost laughable. Amazon has spent years on its business model and has become a well-oiled selling machine. It puts restrictions on its sellers but they are focused on making sales - not on hindering sales. Amazon knows full well what it takes to make sales and to make buyers keep coming back. Amazon knows the value of good customer service! Ebay on the other hand bumbles around - one year seller is king...next year buyer is king.... As for a business model let's try retail...no liquidation...no a mix of both...no....call in the Chinese and flood the site with junk!!! Nobody is happy and customers are beginning to stay away...in fact LOTS of customers are beginning to stay away! They've had it with a site that is cluttered with ads and puts them thru hoops in order to find what they want! Ebay does not sell anything and does not know what it takes to sell on a daily basis - they prefer to beat their sellers into stupid policies that merely throw obstacles in the path of what counts...SALES. They put other projects in front of sales when sales need to be utmost on their priority list - then they try to make up the decline in sales with fee raised or gimmicks (like the present two week half price listings for collectibles) - or ads to other listings on the sellers' paid up listing space!!!

A sad fact is that even if Donahoe admitted he's on the wrong path and tried to turn the ship around he would still fail. Sellers AND buyers have lost interest and lost faith in Ebay. Ebay has become a crazy, confusing place to both buyers and sellers! Ebay needs new management - a fresh start - one in which both seller and buyer are king - equally. Since Ebay doesn't sell anything but space, it needs to become "only a venue" once again. Selling space to sellers and mildly regulating transactions....nothing else could possibly save this company.

Should eBay Go Retail?

Hey Scot - wait till after the holiday season so you can report on Ebay's dismal failure along with their ......success??? ;-)

Should eBay Go Retail?

@Bhash - don't know what site you're talking about but for some time now Ebay is about the only online sales place where a seller can lose his item and his money to unscrupulous buyers - all with Ebay's help too! Buyers can now hold sellers hostage - ask for free items, for reduction in items cost, etc. because one bad negative from a buyer can restrict a small seller from selling on Ebay! You best read up on the new outrageous policies before you speak. This is a major reason why good small sellers are leaving with their hard-earned reputations in tact. Right now the buyers have ALL the power and the sellers are being treated like criminals.